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Cain to Debate Newt: What Is Herman Thinking?
PJ Media ^ | October 29, 2011 | Ryan Mauro

Posted on 10/29/2011 12:06:09 PM PDT by Kaslin

Why would the frontrunner give a chance to middle-of-the-pack Gingrich, a great debater?

Polls show Herman Cain as the frontrunner, and things are going his way. Now, he has agreed to a “modified Lincoln-Douglas”-style debate with Newt Gingrich, where Cain has little to gain and a lot to lose.

On November 5, Gingrich and Cain will go mano-a-mano in a debate about entitlement reform, with no moderator and only a timekeeper from the Texas Tea Party Patriots. “It will be divided into parts, one for each major entitlement — Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid — with each candidate detailing their arguments,” says Bill O’Sullivan, the treasurer of the group. Obviously, the candidates will find ways to bring up other issues if they believe it to be advantageous.

Gingrich’s campaign says it will be respectful, and he will contrast his proposals with Cain “in a friendly way.” There will probably not be any heated, interruption-filled confrontations as happened between Romney, Perry, and Santorum during the last debate.

This debate is a blessing from Cain upon Gingrich. Whereas Cain has frontrunner status, Gingrich is in third place. He is steep in debt and unable to purchase the advertising he needs to be considered a top-tier candidate. The media still isn’t giving him much attention. He’s done well in the debates, but is restrained by the presence of seven other candidates on the stage. Gingrich needs to take away from Cain’s support, or he has no chance of winning. Now, he gets to take on Cain — and only Cain — in the forum that best suits Gingrich.

What does Cain have to gain? It is possible he could best Gingrich and take some of his support, but this is an unnecessary gamble. Cain could simply wait as the right-of-Romney vote coalesces around him and Gingrich’s campaign suffocates. Cain is in a strong position to become the sole alternative to Romney, and if he does he probably wins the nomination.

An important fact that is being overlooked: Cain was hammered in the last debate, yet his support hasn’t dropped at all.

This separates him from Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry, whose candidacies quickly fell after being piled on in the debates. As a matter of fact, Cain has a slight lead nationally in the RealClearPolitics poll average. His campaign says he is now raising $1 million per week. At the same time, Rick Perry intends to use his large war chest for a “total destroy mission” against Romney, in the words of someone familiar with his campaign’s plans. This will take negative attention away from Cain, and brings to mind the mutually caused destruction of the Howard Dean and Dick Gephardt campaigns in 2004.

The Iowa caucus comes on January 3. Cain has a 5.5% lead in the RealClearPolitics average. Should he win, there will be a media firestorm, and in all probability Rick Santorum and Michele Bachmann will drop out. Rick Perry’s campaign will be injured, probably fatally. All of their support goes to Cain.

Mitt Romney will win New Hampshire (likely on January 10). This eliminates Jon Huntsman, whose miniscule number of supporters he will take.

South Carolina comes on January 21. Here, RCP’s average has him with a 5.7% lead today. Gingrich’s campaign depends upon winning this state, and if Cain wins Iowa, it’ll be hard to see how he overcomes Cain’s momentum. He and Perry are gone if Cain wins. At this point, Cain has rallied the anti-Romney vote behind his candidacy, and he is the favorite to win the nomination.

Cain now has two options. He can move forward with the debate and plan on criticizing Gingrich, such as by mentioning his support for the individual mandate. He’ll have to be extra careful not to make a gaffe worth reporting, as no broadcast networks currently plan to cover it. He can hope that not many people will see Gingrich at his best. Or, he can find an excuse to drop out. It’ll be obvious he realized he made a mistake, but if his supporters stuck with him through the last debate, they’ll stick with him through that decision.

Herman Cain’s campaign is in a position that very few people, especially in the media, ever thought it would approach. Debating Gingrich one-on-one is a gamble he doesn’t need to make.

Also see: Dem Wit: GOP Likes Cain Because ‘He’s a Black Man Who Knows His Place’”

And check out: Is Karen Finney Secretly Working for Herman Cain?

 


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: cain; hermancain; newtgingrich
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1 posted on 10/29/2011 12:06:09 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I’m looking forward to the debate. I think it will showcase each guys’ strengths.


2 posted on 10/29/2011 12:09:22 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Kaslin

Cain and Newt have known each other very well for years and years via many Georgia connections, including the Neil Boortz radio show, where they are both frequent guests and have even guest-hosted. (Cain had his own night time talk show.) Cain and Newt both believe they know the minds of the other man like their own hands. Both believe they have nothing to fear, nothing to lose, and only positive press to gain for a real brain tester, instead of the typical MSM-hosted pseudo debates we’ve seen so far.

Just my dos centavos.


4 posted on 10/29/2011 12:12:19 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kaslin
Cain and Gingrich are fans of each other and have a long Georgia past they share.

I don't really see a downside for either. They'll be respectful towards each other. I think this is brilliant publicity for the both of them.

5 posted on 10/29/2011 12:12:36 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: Kaslin

(Beavis and Butthead laugh alert)

Heh heh. Obama is going to lost to one of those two.

Heh heh.


6 posted on 10/29/2011 12:13:56 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America First)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Privatize the GOP debates!

:D


7 posted on 10/29/2011 12:14:29 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America First)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

The key word is “respectful”. If Newts arrogance begins to come out, it will look bad for Newt.


8 posted on 10/29/2011 12:14:55 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Kaslin

You do not win the Presidency by hiding from the voters.


9 posted on 10/29/2011 12:15:23 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Kaslin
What does Cain have to gain?

Credibility and respect that he is not afraid to debate anyone respectful enough to enter an exchange in a dialogue of ideas. As said before, the two of them could elevate the overall debate and come away from this as the leaders by being adults rather than petulant children squabbling over who gets the next gold star.

10 posted on 10/29/2011 12:16:20 PM PDT by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: Kaslin
This may spell the end for Cain, Newt has outperformed everyone in the debates so far.
11 posted on 10/29/2011 12:17:09 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Kaslin

Will this debate be webcast?


12 posted on 10/29/2011 12:18:56 PM PDT by Grunthor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw)
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To: Kaslin

Cain better take some No-Dose before the debate or Newt will put him and the audience to sleep.


13 posted on 10/29/2011 12:20:01 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: wagglebee
Newt has outperformed everyone in the debates so far.

Newt is the master debater and any one of the candidates would lose IMO.

Is Cain going for broke possibly (VP slot)?

14 posted on 10/29/2011 12:20:33 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Kaslin

Oh, Herman.....man, I love ya, but you ain’t no Newt Gingrich when it comes to debating. Debate Romney or Perry or Obama. Them you’d eviscerate. Not Newt.


15 posted on 10/29/2011 12:20:34 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Kaslin
Herman Cain
17 posted on 10/29/2011 12:20:58 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Kaslin
I'm of the mind this debate will set a fresh tone..hopefully...for how debates should go. But this is certainly the way to go to center stage Cain and Newt as the leaders against the media darlings tit for tat with Perry and Romney.

Good move on both Cain and Newts part....wisdom says it well.

18 posted on 10/29/2011 12:21:18 PM PDT by caww
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To: basil

Are you going? I heard that it isn’t going to be televised and they are charging like it’s a fundraiser, complete with VIP packages and photo-ops. Sounds about as real as pro-wrestling. Cain and Gingrich are in cahoots already. This is a phony debate.


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20 posted on 10/29/2011 12:23:03 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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