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Why Conservatives Should Continue to Oppose Romney after the Nomination (Please provide input)
Bloggers & Personal ^ | 10 Apr 12 | Xzins

Posted on 04/10/2012 9:55:58 AM PDT by xzins

The basic reason Romney should be opposed by conservatives is that Romney is not a conservative. More specifically, Romney is the author of the $50 abortion, the originator of the gay marriage license, and the founder of big government-forced health care.

Those 3 are a mix of social and fiscal issues. The conclusion is that Romney is neither a fiscal conservative nor a social conservative. His tenure as governor of Massachusetts proves that point.

Now, as Romney is touted as the “etch-a-sketch” candidate who will shortly begin his tack to the left, principled conservatives will do well to begin listing their reasons for not ever supporting Mitt Romney for anything other than Citizen Mitt.

1. Abortion: Romney is the author of the $50 abortion.

2. Gay Marriage: Romney signed legislation requiring the issuing of gay marriage licenses. Romney has tried to “moderate” his position by becoming pro-gay union....big deal. He once told gay operatives that he was the gay lobby's best hope for getting their agenda into the republican party. (Look at that, too, in terms of abortion and judicial selections.)

3. RomneyCare: Sadly, Mitt thinks it's just fine to have state governments force you to buy health insurance. I suppose he finds the power to do that in the US Constitution. Oh...I remember...the place where the Constitution says “states can force the people to buy things they don't want to buy and enter into contracts they don't want to enter into.”

4. Give notice to the GOP-Establishment: It probably is very wise to shove down their throat what they are trying to shove down ours. They are not the masters of the conservative universe. Allowing them to think they are will simply encourage more of the same in the future. I'm sure the romney-bots and the romney-enablers will want their say about Romney opponents handing the election to Obama, but the manipulation by the GOP-E is what will lead to that.

5. Romney's “Scorched Earth” Campaign: Romney has divided conservatives and seriously weakened voter turnout. His strategy, liberal that he is, was to run ads via his SuperPac pigeonholing the conservative purity of his opponents. That kind of outrageous hypocrisy deserves punishment and not reward.

6. Conservative Resignation to supporting Romney appears to be surrender of conservative principle. The results of that could be far-reaching. It could mean that the republican movement is totally abandoned to the liberal establishment.

7. Judicial Appointments: "Liberty Counsel Action Vice President Matt Barber said Romney’s appointments were constitutional “living document” poster children.

“Many of Romney’s appointments were not only liberal, not only Democrats, but were radical counter-constitutionalists. How on earth can we expect that, as president, he would be any different?” Barber asked rhetorically."

8. Other reasons "Conservatives Should Continue to Oppose Romney after the Nomination" are welcome. Please post them below.


TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans; Politics
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To: Yashcheritsiy

“Further, a Romney presidency may even be WORSE than a second Obama term. At least with Obama in office, the Republicans have grown a little bit of a spinelet and fought him on some things, and really have served to hinder a lot of what Obama *could* have done.”

You mean like Obamacare, increasing the debt, the New Black Panthers, Fast and Furious, the Muslim Brotherhood, the moratorium on drilling? Yeah, he’s really been hindered. There is NO ONE worse than Obama.


81 posted on 04/10/2012 10:43:01 AM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: xzins; Mariner
In America voters are still allowed to vote their principles.

No no no, you MUST vote party over principles!!! C'mon xzins, do what's best for the countryRepublican Party!

82 posted on 04/10/2012 10:43:14 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Elvina

Santorum and Gingrich both had ACU ratings in the 80’s and/or low 90’s. In other words, they were consistently on the side of conservatism.

Romney, who doesn’t have a conservative bone in his body, had his superpac run ads against these conservatives that attacked their conservative lapses. In other words, Santorum & Gingrich were not perfectly pure conservative candidates, but they were destroyed by Romney, a liberal, who attacked their non-conservative moments.

And his attacks were repeated by sheeple in the media and in the communities and on the blogs (even FR) who couldn’t see beyond the end of their noses.

I will NOT allow a liberal to win in such a manner. I will work hard in my congressional district in bellwether Ohio to defeat Mitt Romney and elect whichever conservative is running 3rd party or alternative candidate.


83 posted on 04/10/2012 10:44:55 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: Jagdgewehr

“So many conservatives are so ready to vote a liberal into office. Sickening.”

So many conservatives are so ready to leave a Communist in office. Even more sickening.


84 posted on 04/10/2012 10:45:53 AM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: xzins
In America voters are still allowed to vote their principles.

Wow, I can't believe how much abuse you are getting here for this sentiment. Guess the MSM has done its job in getting people to believe that Romney can beat Obama.

85 posted on 04/10/2012 10:46:36 AM PDT by Elvina (BHO is doubleplus ungood.)
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To: xzins

My input is that no matter how you try and shade this you’re an obumbler supporter. Okay? Lets all stay home to prove a point and pay no never mind to the fact we won’t have a country to call our own after 4 more years of the muslim in the white house.
Thats my input. All pieces like this do is help obumbler.


86 posted on 04/10/2012 10:47:41 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: sean327

This place is becoming like the DU. Why would we not get behind Romney. I can only think that most of these posters are frauds and libs.


87 posted on 04/10/2012 10:48:07 AM PDT by angcat (PLEASE GOD SAVE OUR COUNTRY!)
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To: moehoward
If they didn't get it with McCain, they never will. The GOPe insistence on Romney is further proof. Sorry to say it, but the only solution here is 3rd party. They see a mass exodus and they'll start making with the red carpet again like 2010 when the Tea Party kicked so much booty.

Excellent point, Moe.

And there's the potential to replace the 2nd party with that energized 3rd party. It would be nice to have a truly conservative party.

88 posted on 04/10/2012 10:48:32 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: DC Ripper
It's very simple.

You Vote your Candidate in the Primary. You Vote your Party's Candidate in the General. Some people here actually believe that Romney and Obama are one in the same, unreal.

I'll keep pulling for my Candidate Newt, but I only get one Vote. That is the reality. In the General, I either take my Sample Ballot and go home or I show up and Vote for the last man standing. I'm with Levin, Anybody But Obama.

89 posted on 04/10/2012 10:50:08 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy; Elvina

Principle over party....you’d think it were a new concept with some of these folks. Better to respond to attacks with a rational kind post. Sometimes folks realize you’re not trying to hurt them and they back off the personal attacks.

Romney is not a conservative. I am a conservative. I will not support non-conservative Romney.

I don’t quite get those who don’t understand that logic.


90 posted on 04/10/2012 10:52:16 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Where? How? In primaries? Do you think conservatives have been voting for Romney in primaries?
Do you mean the election? So conservatives,of which there are seemingly 100 parameters around here vote for a 3rd party? Whats that going to do? Obama wins with 45-30-25?
Sorry. The process is pretty far along. we have what we have. We band together to win,not to lose.


91 posted on 04/10/2012 10:54:48 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: wiggen

Who said anything about staying home????


92 posted on 04/10/2012 10:56:42 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: taxcontrol

I’ve come to the conclusion that “moderate-rinos” ARE the republican base. You and me are the “fringe”.


93 posted on 04/10/2012 10:57:03 AM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." - Peter Griffin, Family Guy)
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To: xzins
And there's the potential to replace the 2nd party with that energized 3rd party. It would be nice to have a truly conservative party.

I'm up for giving it a go! Time for the GOP to go the route of the Whigs.

What's sadly ironic is that if all of the people saying that this couldn't be done would simply get on board instead of mewling about how it can't be done, it could be done.

94 posted on 04/10/2012 10:57:52 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Magic Fingers
So many conservatives are so ready to leave a Communist in office. Even more sickening.

So, I have to vote for your leftist in order to remove another leftist from office? Still sounds like you're suggesting I vote for the demise of our republic as the alternative.

I will not cast a vote for Romney.

95 posted on 04/10/2012 10:58:02 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Hear, hear. I agree.

I think they just want to brag about how “principled” they are, and how much more conservative than us they fancy themselves to be...

but if your principles hasten the death of America, that gets into “reckless stupidity.”


96 posted on 04/10/2012 10:58:18 AM PDT by DC Ripper
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To: joe fonebone




THANK you!! That is exactly how I feel, and there are many here on FR that feel the same way, but speak up even less than me.
97 posted on 04/10/2012 10:58:39 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: angcat; xzins
87 posted on Tue Apr 10 2012 12:48:07 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by angcat: “This place is becoming like the DU. Why would we not get behind Romney. I can only think that most of these posters are frauds and libs.”

Please be careful with that accusation.

I'm sure there are trolls here trying to cause trouble. I also believe there are people who are convinced that the Republican Party is treating conservatives the way the Democratic Party treats blacks — taking them for granted and ignoring them.

As conservatives, we need to do to do the Republican Party what Barack Obama did to the Democrats — take over the party from the John Edwards and Hillary Clinton establishment candidates despite their pleas that he has a “radical agenda” that can't win general elections.

If that won't work, then I don't know what to do next.

What I do believe is that XZins and others are completely sincere in their view that Romney is going down to defeat this fall if he's nominated, so conservatives might as well make crystal clear to the Republican leadership that they need to stop taking us for granted.

Maybe XZins is right; maybe he's wrong. I do believe he's sincere and not a fraud or a liberal.

98 posted on 04/10/2012 11:01:17 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: xzins
In other words, Santorum & Gingrich were not perfectly pure conservative candidates, but they were destroyed by Romney, a liberal, who attacked their non-conservative moments.

You have hit the nail on the head. When I heard Romney with his own mouth distort Santorum's pro-life record on Neil Cavuto's show, I knew I could never vote for him. He's much worse than McCain. He is willing to outright lie and pretend to be a conservative by lying about true conservatives' records, when he perceives that is what the audience wants to hear. Romney claims to be pro-life, but no true pro-lifer would dare attack a pro-life hero like Rick Santorum in that way. We will have to see what our choices are when the time comes. Santorum still has a chance, so I am putting my eggs in that basket at this point.

99 posted on 04/10/2012 11:01:23 AM PDT by Elvina (BHO is doubleplus ungood.)
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To: CommerceComet

The public won’t see it that way.


100 posted on 04/10/2012 11:01:36 AM PDT by Kansas58
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