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The place of the Basques in the European Y-chromosome diversity landscape
Nature (abstract only) ^ | 2005 | Santos Alonso et al

Posted on 08/15/2005 8:42:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

There is a trend to consider the gene pool of the Basques as a 'living fossil' of the earliest modern humans that colonized Europe. To investigate this assumption, we have typed 45 binary markers and five short tandem repeat loci of the Y chromosome in a set of 168 male Basques. Results on these combined haplotypes were analyzed in the context of matching data belonging to approximately 3000 individuals from over 20 European, Near East and North African populations, which were compiled from the literature. Our results place the low Y-chromosome diversity of Basques within the European diversity landscape. This low diversity seems to be the result of a lower effective population size maintained through generations. At least some lineages of Y chromosome in modern Basques originated and have been evolving since pre-Neolithic times. However, the strong genetic drift experienced by the Basques does not allow us to consider Basques either the only or the best representatives of the ancestral European gene pool. Contrary to previous suggestions, we do not observe any particular link between Basques and Celtic populations beyond that provided by the Paleolithic ancestry common to European populations, nor we find evidence supporting Basques as the focus of major population expansions.

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1 posted on 08/15/2005 8:43:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 08/15/2005 8:43:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: Pharmboy; CobaltBlue

Genetic Genealogy Ping


3 posted on 08/15/2005 8:51:53 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: SunkenCiv


4 posted on 08/15/2005 9:05:31 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Cronos

Seen this one?


5 posted on 08/15/2005 9:07:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Don't put all your eggs in one basket nor all your Basques in one exit.


6 posted on 08/15/2005 9:14:41 PM PDT by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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To: martin_fierro

Thanks, man. I would love to know if it's the same proto-Celtic Rb1 that I belong to...


7 posted on 08/15/2005 9:23:22 PM PDT by Pharmboy (There is no positive correlation between the ability to write, act, sing or dance and being right)
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To: SunkenCiv

Euskal Herria


8 posted on 08/15/2005 10:36:43 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: SunkenCiv

Euskal Herria


9 posted on 08/15/2005 10:36:44 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks. Bump for later bookmark.


10 posted on 08/16/2005 5:57:19 AM PDT by Renfield (If Gene Tracy was the entertainment at your senior prom, YOU might be a redneck...)
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To: Kevin OMalley

Good advice. :')


11 posted on 08/16/2005 6:55:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: Renfield

You're most welcome.


12 posted on 08/16/2005 6:57:14 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: SunkenCiv

wow!!!!


13 posted on 08/17/2005 8:37:35 AM PDT by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia!)
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To: Cronos

Three more to follow, including two you've posted in the past. :')


14 posted on 08/17/2005 8:53:14 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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language map

15 posted on 08/17/2005 8:55:54 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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language map

16 posted on 08/17/2005 8:56:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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language map

17 posted on 08/17/2005 8:56:39 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

It's a good source of 'fo. :') That's where this topic came from.


18 posted on 08/17/2005 8:58:05 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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Proto-Indo-European
(after Calvert Watkins, "The Indo-European Family of Languages", circa 1976)

Balto-Slavic Baltic
  • Old Prussian
  • Lithuanian
  • Latvian
Slavic West Slavic
  • Wendish
  • Polish
  • Slovak
  • Czech
South Slavic
  • Slovene
  • Serbo-Croatian
  • Macedonian
  • Bulgarian
  • Old Church Slavonic
East Slavic
  • Ukrainian
  • Byelorussian
  • Russian

Germanic North Germanic Old Norse Old Icelandic
  • Icelandic
Faroese
Old Norwegian Middle Norwegian
  • Norwegian
Old Swedish Middle Swedish
  • Swedish
Old Danish Middle Danish
  • Danish
West Germanic Old English Middle English
  • English
Old Frisian
  • Frisian
Old Dutch Middle Dutch
  • Dutch
  • Flemish
  • Afrikaans
Old Low German Middle Low German
  • Low German
Old High German Middle High German
  • (High) German
  • Yiddish
East Germanic Gothic

Celtic Goidelic
  • Irish Gaelic
  • Scottish Gaelic
  • Manx
Brythonic
  • Welsh
  • Cornish
  • Breton
  • Gaulish

Italic Latino-Faliscan Faliscan
Latin
  • Portuguese
  • Spanish
  • Catalan
  • Provencal
  • French
  • Italian
  • Rhaeto-Romance
  • Rumanian
Osco-Umbrian Oscan
Umbrian

Illyrian

Albanian

Thracian

Hellenic
  • Greek

Armenian

Phrygian

Anatolian Lycian
Lydian
Luvian
Hittite

Indo-Iranian Iranian Old Persian Middle Persian
  • Persian
Pahlavi
.
  • Avestan
  • Sogdian
  • Kurdish
  • Baluchi
  • Pashto
Indic Sanskrit
  • Singhalese
  • Punjabi
  • Gujarati
  • Marathi
  • Bengali
  • Assamese
  • Bihari
  • Hindi
  • Urdu
  • Romany
  • Sindhi
Dardic (spoken in upper Indus Valley)
  • Dard

Tocharian (w China, died out several centuries ago) Tocharian A
Tocharian B


19 posted on 08/17/2005 9:03:41 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: SunkenCiv
The Scandinavian branch of the Germanic languages is missing Skansk, the dialect of the Skane (Scania) region of Sweden. I believe that it was a dialect of Danish with Swedish influences. Few people speak authentic Skansk. The term is also used derisively by other Swedes to refer to the Modern Danish and Skansk influences on the Swedish used currently in the region.

Riksmal is now a dialect in Norway. Most people speak varients with Danish and Swedish influences like the official dialects of Boksmal (literary/formal speech) and Nynorsk (New Norwegian).
The list is also missing Ladino (a Jewish dialect of old Spanish) and Yiddish (Jewish High German with Slavic influences)

20 posted on 08/18/2005 1:26:02 AM PDT by rmlew (http://nycright.blogspot.com/)
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To: rmlew

Yiddish is on the list in message 20. I didn't make the other lists, but my guess is that quite a number of dialects (hundreds, or thousands, such as Ebonics) aren't on there.


21 posted on 08/18/2005 7:35:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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Whoops, make that message 19.


22 posted on 08/18/2005 7:41:43 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: SunkenCiv; All

I'm curious how many FREEPERS have completed the NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC DNA sample giving project thing.

Still waiting for mine to be analyzed.


23 posted on 08/29/2005 1:49:05 PM PDT by Quix (TIMES R A CHANGING! THE BIBLE GIVES THE OUTLINE AHEAD PRAY, PREPARE)
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To: Quix

Maybe a link would help those of us who are lazy (like me).


24 posted on 08/29/2005 1:56:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: SunkenCiv; All

Your wish is my command . . .

welllllllllllllll, to a point.

Thanks.

Here's a link to the Nat Geo DNA project page.

https://www5.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/


25 posted on 08/29/2005 2:14:50 PM PDT by Quix (TIMES R A CHANGING! THE BIBLE GIVES THE OUTLINE AHEAD PRAY, PREPARE)
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To: Quix

$99.95? Plus s&h. Yow.
https://www5.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/participate.html


26 posted on 08/29/2005 2:32:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: Quix

In the Wake of the Phoenicians: DNA study reveals a Phoenician-Maltese link
The National Geographic | October 2004 | Cassandra Franklin-Barbajosa
Posted on 08/21/2005 1:38:08 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1467818/posts


27 posted on 08/29/2005 2:38:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks. Yeah, expensive.

But curiosity is a powerful motivation! LOL.

Thanks for the links.


28 posted on 08/29/2005 4:34:34 PM PDT by Quix (TIMES R A CHANGING! THE BIBLE GIVES THE OUTLINE AHEAD PRAY, PREPARE)
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