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JonBenet Ramsey Murder Suspect Karr - Case Thread 2
FRee Republic ^ | 8/28/06 | FReepers, et alii

Posted on 08/28/2006 9:01:50 AM PDT by Rte66

This is a reference thread with links to previous FR threads discussing the arrest of a suspect, John Mark Karr, in the decade-old cold case concerning the murder of JonBenet Ramsey, plus case resources for continued commentary on investigation of the crime.


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To: Rte66

There you are!

Hey, Route66, can you add me to this ping list?

Thanks


221 posted on 08/28/2006 5:34:54 PM PDT by stultorum
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To: ableLight
"2.) JMK confessed

I don't think he ever confessed to the crime. he said, and i'm paraphrasing here: "I was there when JonBenet died."

I think he was only connected in an emotional, sick way.

I got this quote in my Notepad notes. It dates back to the early days of his arrest in Thailand:

"On Friday, Suwat confirmed to the AP his account of the sexual assault. But asked Friday if Karr gave the girl drugs, Suwat said the suspect described the encounter with JonBenet Ramsey as "a blur."

Me thinks the dude is a very disturbed individual. Moreover, he has served notice to society in more than one way that he's not fit to live among civilized people, much less among, or near, children.

222 posted on 08/28/2006 5:42:54 PM PDT by stultorum
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To: stultorum

I agree. I think his confession was delusional. Had it been from anyone else I could take it as a metaphorical, empathetic statement, but I know that's not where he was coming from. He was coming from a very dark place.


223 posted on 08/28/2006 5:50:36 PM PDT by ableLight
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To: ableLight

Owen should shut his trap. Anyone who reads the motion to quash the warrant realizes that given the information JMK was providing had to be followed up on.

They had to trace and identify him and test him because his delusions came so close to the mark.


224 posted on 08/28/2006 5:51:00 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Big Media is like Barney Fife with a gun.)
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To: Valpal1

I do agree that Owens went to far. The arrest of JMK interrupted an ongoing abuse of a child in Bangkok and the DA did the right thing. That's the one thing that stood out to me.


225 posted on 08/28/2006 5:55:59 PM PDT by ableLight
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To: stlnative

Well, he'll go to jail and we'll never hear anything more about him ever again. So sad!


226 posted on 08/28/2006 6:08:53 PM PDT by Halls (Proud to be called a Daughter of Texas!)
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To: stultorum

Welcome to FR...how did you manage to sign up tomorrow?....I had to check my calendar, thought I lost a day somewhere...lol


227 posted on 08/28/2006 6:31:12 PM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: ableLight

I read about half of the arrest warrant affadavit. It was very disturbing. I can see why they felt compelled to find out who Daxis was.

I am still half-convinced he could be one of two perps. Then again he could be a multiple personality one of which is his own mother and he thinks they did the crime together.

Weird and dirty.


228 posted on 08/28/2006 6:35:06 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Big Media is like Barney Fife with a gun.)
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To: Valpal1
yeah... he just the type of freak we all want living next door to us. <sarcasm

As soon as the freak gets out of jail his so called concerned family should step up to the plate and get him into a mental hospital.
229 posted on 08/28/2006 6:47:12 PM PDT by stlnative (WARNING my post is most likely full of poor spelling & bad grammar which are all free of charge!)
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To: Conservative Texan Mom

"I still don't think it was anyone in JonBenet's immediate family.

Many people - including multiple housekeepers, gardeners, caterers and a landscaper - had keys to the house.

I'd go back and re-reinvestigate meticously these people. If nothing comes out of it, I would then look at the murder as one with ritualistic overtones.

Another one of my theories is that this crime was done by an intimate, a person who knew the victim and had an emotional attachment to the victim. I believe the offender first attempted strangulation. The first method failed and the person resorted to the second method to kill JonBwenet. The offender was in my opinion connected to the victim in an emotional way.

Patsy Ramsey's mindset before and after the murder of JonBenet was heavily influenced by the charismatic theological subculture that she had embraced during her bout with cancer and that she saw JonBenet's death as a sacrifice for sins she had committed. She saw herself as having committed a grievous sin that required more than a prayer of forgiveness. By killing the child she may have believed that she was reedeming the child and taking the child from a world of darkness and sending her to a better place. This sacrifice would in her mind bring her redemption for her sin and rid herself of her guilt as it related to the child.

I don't believe John Ramsey was involved in a sexual relationship with JonBenet. But I also believe that he played a role in the coverup following the murder murder.

Just speculating.


230 posted on 08/28/2006 6:50:48 PM PDT by stultorum
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To: stlnative

They could never get him held in a mental institution unless he voluntarily committed himself.

He won't, he's going to go looking for more little girls to molest.


231 posted on 08/28/2006 6:51:28 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Big Media is like Barney Fife with a gun.)
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To: stultorum

Charismatic christians do not practice child sacrifice for the redemption of sin. Smear Patsy if you want, but stop smearing christians. Sheesh!


232 posted on 08/28/2006 6:59:07 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Big Media is like Barney Fife with a gun.)
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To: Valpal1

check their sign up date... it another newbie who probably followed the other newbie over from DU.


233 posted on 08/28/2006 7:10:39 PM PDT by stlnative (WARNING my post is most likely full of poor spelling & bad grammar which are all free of charge!)
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To: Valpal1

I am about half-way through the affadivit also. This is the most disturbing 49 pages I have ever read. I had to quit reading. Will get back to it in a bit.


234 posted on 08/28/2006 7:14:25 PM PDT by I want to know
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To: stlnative

Yeah, I saw that they signed up tomorrow. Means their using foreign isp and email to cover themselves.

Or it's another damn pedophile overseas wanting to pile on the parents.


235 posted on 08/28/2006 7:14:25 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Big Media is like Barney Fife with a gun.)
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To: I want to know

I'm not going to finish. JMK can peddle his sickness elsewhere (Hollyweird is calling him already to be a consultant on a new JonBenet movie, I'm sure). I'm done with him.

For John and Burke's sake, I hope someday BPD will finally get a solid lead.


236 posted on 08/28/2006 7:16:36 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Big Media is like Barney Fife with a gun.)
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To: Halls

Nope - now they are recanting and saying that he WILL be charged on the Sonoma county misdemeanor child porn charges. (typical of the media)


237 posted on 08/28/2006 7:24:25 PM PDT by greccogirl
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To: stlnative

Yes, I read that too - the latest is he will be held on the California charges. (It depends on which hour you read what they say). I'm glad. He needs help.


238 posted on 08/28/2006 7:25:46 PM PDT by greccogirl
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To: stlnative

Yeah, they've changed it now. Earlier they said no. And I'm glad.


239 posted on 08/28/2006 7:26:46 PM PDT by greccogirl
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To: stlnative

I know - I'm glad. I don't know if they mis reported it or changed their minds. I think he should be charged with lying to the police as well!


240 posted on 08/28/2006 7:27:23 PM PDT by greccogirl
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