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Jews Assists Ancient Chinese to Make Earliest Paper Money: Expert
People's Daily Online ^ | Friday, December 15, 2000 | unattributed

Posted on 04/09/2007 11:09:14 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

It is well known that "jiaozi," world's earliest paper money, originated in China some 800 years ago. But latest research indicate that Jews used to assist ancient China in doing this might surprise most people. "Jiaozi," also named "jiaochao," appeared in China in 1154 during the reign of the Jin regime (1115-1234). It was believed in the past that Jin regime hired coining workers of Song (960-1279), Jin's preceding dynasty, to make the paper notes. But Qiu Shiyu, researcher of the Harbin Academy of Sciences and expert of Jin history, concluded that Jews used to take part in the work of designing "jiaozi," based on his study of a copper printing plate left behind from the Jin regime. Made of coarse jute paper, "jiaozi" was too hard to be preserved and not a piece of such paper has been discovered so far. The copper printing plate used during the Zhenyou period (1213- 1217) of the Jin dynasty is kept in the Museum of the Chinese History now, has become the only proof to tell the identity of " jiaozi."

(Excerpt) Read more at english.people.com.cn ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: china; currency; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; israel; jacobdancona; kaifeng; losttribes; marcopolo; nestorians; simchajacobovici; tenlosttribes
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1 posted on 04/09/2007 11:09:18 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; 49th; ...
Interesting, from 2000.

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2 posted on 04/09/2007 11:10:05 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

So those evil Joooos were creating fiat money a long time ago. Wonder what role the neocons played.


3 posted on 04/09/2007 11:14:51 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: SunkenCiv

Another Joos and Money story?


4 posted on 04/09/2007 11:15:17 AM PDT by sono (TITUS PVLLO in MMVIII - Endorsed by the 13th Legion.)
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To: sono

Wonder what the Chinese stereotypical pictograph in their writing system is for the Jooos? A grasping hand? Moneybag?
A circumcized penis? (I wonder whatever pictograph they use for penis? Surely they have one, if only for bathroom wall jokes.)


5 posted on 04/09/2007 11:25:54 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks.


6 posted on 04/09/2007 1:02:21 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: SunkenCiv

The oldest paper ever found was found with the, 2000BC, Caucasian mummies found in China a few years back. The paper had Tocharian A written on it... Not Chinese, not Hebrew.- Tocharian is an Indo-European language that is at least as old as Hittite...maybe older.


7 posted on 04/09/2007 1:40:31 PM PDT by blam
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8 posted on 04/09/2007 1:49:25 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
The Ghosts of Shanghai

"Jewish history in China dates to at least the 8th century, when West Asian traders roamed the Silk Road. A Jewish settlement was established in the city of Kaifeng, in what is now Henan province, where a synagogue was built in 1163 and thousands of Jews worshiped openly. Kaifeng today boasts some Hebrew writing on tombstones, but no living link to its Jewish past (although some residents claim Jewish blood). By the 20th century, the community in Kaifeng was eclipsed by cities like Harbin, Ningbo and Tianjin, which all had sizable Jewish settlements."

9 posted on 04/09/2007 1:59:43 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

Well this certainly won’t help dispel any negative stereotypes.


10 posted on 04/09/2007 2:59:16 PM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: blam

In that “Quest” video above, Simcha (same guy as the Jesus Tomb, etc), with the help of a local guy who knows where people are (probably a gov’t agent), tracks down one of the Jewish residents of whatever city he’s in. The subject (who looks Chinese of course) tells him that the synagogue burned down 300 years earlier and that the congregation thereby lost its rabbi and eventually became non-practicing. Yet on his identity papers, he’s still identified as a Jew. Kinda cool.


11 posted on 04/09/2007 7:35:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting. I know there was a Jewish population in China.


12 posted on 04/09/2007 8:26:49 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (God hates bunnies.)
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thanks to Cronos for most of these cool graphics:

Indo-European Branch of the World Language Family Tree
Proto-Indo-European
Proto-Semitic

13 posted on 04/09/2007 9:25:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: blam

I don’t recall that. I remember something about the oldest *blank* writing paper being found in one of the Central Asian sites.

Here’s something you’ll really like:

MOTHER TONGUE
Newsletter of the Association for the Study of Language In Prehistory
Issue 26 · Spring 1996
http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~witzel/mt26i.html

some Tocharian stuff:

http://www.ancientscripts.com/tocharian.html

http://www.oxuscom.com/eyawtkat.htm

this is interesting, just as a sidebar:

http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/000208.html
http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/000209.html


14 posted on 04/09/2007 9:34:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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tocharian paper
Google

15 posted on 04/09/2007 9:35:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Used to buy egg rolls on Christmas. :-)


16 posted on 04/09/2007 9:35:32 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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thanks to Carrot-and-Stick for this one:

Language Tree

17 posted on 04/09/2007 9:45:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Clemenza

...or Hannukah maybe... ;’)


18 posted on 04/09/2007 9:46:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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European tongues

19 posted on 04/09/2007 9:46:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Its a reference to a popular tradition among Jews in the NY/NJ area: Chinese food and a movie.


20 posted on 04/09/2007 9:50:01 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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