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Rock solid proof?
The Weatherford Democrat ^ | David May

Posted on 07/28/2008 2:17:21 PM PDT by Soliton

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To: grey_whiskers
"I always thought those human-dinosaur tracks were done by the same group of teenagers responsible for Crop Circles"

If DogBoy is right about the age of the dyno tracks, then they are way beyond teenagers, and they had such big feet for kids...

61 posted on 07/28/2008 5:08:08 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
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To: editor-surveyor
If DogBoy is right about the age of the dyno tracks, then they are way beyond teenagers, and they had such big feet for kids...

If dinosaurs were cavorting about with modern humans, where are their bones?

We find bones of all manner of extinct fauna and early humans in sediments dating to the last several millennia, but no dinosaur bones. Where are they?

62 posted on 07/28/2008 5:20:48 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Ooops, sorry, saw the “lesbian” in the nic and just guessed. Should have known that was a /sarc or /joke nic...


63 posted on 07/28/2008 5:23:01 PM PDT by piytar
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To: Soliton
Footprint evidence can never rise to a compelling case. Anything at all can cause an impression in mud.

Show me human fossil remains, not even adjacent to dinosaur fossils, but in the same rock layer anywhere on earth.

Surely if man and dinsosaur co-existed, this would not be a hard challenge.

64 posted on 07/28/2008 5:23:16 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: freeplancer

Read again, this time carefully please. No apology will be necessary.

“Is it not possible to be a creationist, IOW believing that God created the heavens and the earth, AND ALSO believe that the earth is many billions of years old?”

- Grunthor


65 posted on 07/28/2008 5:28:14 PM PDT by Grunthor (Libs love soccer because you can play for hours and have no winner, thus no loser)
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To: Dog Gone
Surely if man and dinsosaur co-existed, this would not be a hard challenge.

There is an entire industry selling crap to creationists. Books, movies like "expelled, and geological fakes like these footprints are all money makers.

66 posted on 07/28/2008 5:28:30 PM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: Soliton; Grunthor

**the Bible is either true or not. It says six days, not six indeterminate periods of time.**

God created a ‘turn-key’ earth for Adam. The amount of time needed is minimal when one also has the ability to turn H2O into H2O, carbs, and alchohol; instantly multiply MREs (loaves & fishes), raise people that have been dead for days, etc. Oh, and of course, the supernatural experience of receiving the Holy Ghost, speaking with other tongues as the Spirit giveth the utterance. (”..thou HEAREST the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is EVERY one that is born of the Spirit”)

The wine looked like wine, tasted like wine, yet skipped the long process to become wine. Likewise, the loaves and fishes. Instantly reverse the decaying process? “Lord, by now he stinketh”.

I would much rather be a Christian wrong about creation (though I don’t believe that I am), than an atheist wrong for rejecting the Creator.

The choice is obviously yours. IF you are wrong, and your soul awakes to judgement, then what? Curious minds would like to know.


67 posted on 07/28/2008 5:30:42 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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To: Grunthor

“Is it not possible..”

Welcome to Freerepublic and I hope your short trip from DU was a good one


68 posted on 07/28/2008 5:31:26 PM PDT by freeplancer
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To: Soliton

It’s a fact of human nature that all of us are attracted to “evidence” that supports our pre-existing belief, especially if we hold that belief dearly.

So, I understand why creationists would jump all over this claiming it’s the AHA evidence. Believers in evolution are vulnerable to this as well. Piltdown Man is a good example of that.

The difference is that no creationist will expose this thing as bunk.


69 posted on 07/28/2008 5:33:45 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: freeplancer

“Welcome to Freerepublic and I hope your short trip from DU was a good one”

Given that I’ve been here for more than a year, you can shove that noise.


70 posted on 07/28/2008 5:36:07 PM PDT by Grunthor (Libs love soccer because you can play for hours and have no winner, thus no loser)
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To: Zuriel

Your mistake is assuming that those who are convinced in the truth of evolution don’t believe in God. Some don’t, I suppose, but you’re condemning an entire group of people erroneously.

Many believe God, as the Creator, chose evolution as a natural mechanism to arrive at the world as it is today. Remember, evolution doesn’t try to tell us how life began; it only tells us how it changed over time.


71 posted on 07/28/2008 5:38:50 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Grunthor

BTW, I’m an “old earth” creationist. Here’s a link you may find interesting. (Interesting website, too.):

http://www.reasons.org/resources/apologetics/other_papers/greg_moore_does_old_earth_creationism_contradict_genesis_1.shtml

I see you call Washington state home. I’m originally from Arizona but I did my undergraduate degree at the University of Washington (History, ‘78). You can imagine how a desert rat like me took to the three Pacific Northwest seasons: cold rain, warm rain, and dry (with intermittent periods of...rain). Thought I was going to have to develop gills and webbed feet to survive!

Take care.


72 posted on 07/28/2008 5:45:53 PM PDT by Captain Rhino ( If we have the WILL to do it, there is nothing built in China that we cannot do without.)
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To: Zuriel
The wine looked like wine, tasted like wine, yet skipped the long process to become wine. Likewise, the loaves and fishes. Instantly reverse the decaying process? “Lord, by now he stinketh”.

You have accidentally hit upon the best argument for evolution. The existence of so many biological mechanisms argues against a supernatural, let alone perfect, creator. A creater unbound by nature, wouldn't need to conform to natural solutions.

73 posted on 07/28/2008 5:55:09 PM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: Zuriel
I would much rather be a Christian wrong about creation (though I don’t believe that I am), than an atheist wrong for rejecting the Creator.

I just want to know the truth.

74 posted on 07/28/2008 5:56:36 PM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: Dog Gone

**Show me human fossil remains, not even adjacent to dinosaur fossils, but in the same rock layer anywhere on earth.**

Bear in mind the historical record of Genesis. Man was placed in a world teeming with plant and animal life. Yet man had only lived in a portion of the earth (the Middle East, as we call it today) before the flood came and etc.

**Surely if man and dinsosaur co-existed, this would not be a hard challenge.**

I’m sure people weren’t stupid during the flood, standing around letting the water go over their heads while staying put at home. The landlubbing dinosaurs probably didn’t climb mountains as well as people, hence were buried in sediment first. JMHO.


75 posted on 07/28/2008 5:57:29 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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To: Soliton

**I just want to know the truth.**

Nothing wrong with that.


76 posted on 07/28/2008 6:01:29 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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To: Zuriel

Unless you believe all fossils were caused by Noah’s Flood, something that would be impossible, you would still expect to find human and dinosaur fossils buried in the same rock stratum in some situations if they co-existed.

That doesn’t happen. Not once. Not even somewhat ambiguously.

If you do believe in Noah’s Flood, you would expect to find creatures of all types in the same rock stratum. There should be one HUGE rock formation correlating to the Flood where we find everything. Dogs, cats, humans, T-Rex, mesosaurs, etc.

Not there.

We don’t and it is not even a matter of interpretation.

This did not happen like you want to believe. You can deny it or you can adjust your thinking, but you can’t make up your own facts. The rocks tell the story.


77 posted on 07/28/2008 6:12:52 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Show me human fossil remains, not even adjacent to dinosaur fossils, but in the same rock layer anywhere on earth.

Surely if man and dinsosaur co-existed, this would not be a hard challenge.

Clearly you have no concept of how little of a human remains after being cycled through a dinosaur...

78 posted on 07/28/2008 6:23:51 PM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: freeplancer; Grunthor
Careful!

Grunthor might introduce you to his cat, Angror:


79 posted on 07/28/2008 6:27:07 PM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: null and void
Clearly you have no concept of how little of a human remains after being cycled through a dinosaur...

So, every human that lived in the time of the dinosaurs was eaten, so that's why we find no contemporary fossils.

Do you have the slightest clue how utterly ridiculous that position is? Apparently not.

It's very hard to argue with people who don't use their minds.

80 posted on 07/28/2008 6:35:11 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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