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Where in the world is Barack Obama’s birth certificate? (Part 2)
Orange County Conservative Examiner ^ | July 25, 2009 | Gregory Dail

Posted on 07/26/2009 5:07:16 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american

Researching the Obama birth certificate conspiracy has yielded many theories and wild speculations. Despite the likelihood that most of them are without merit, the one haunting theme i: what is Obama hiding? The forged birth certificate that appeared on Obama’s campaign site has spawned new curiosities, theories and demands to know where in the world is Barack Obama’s birth certificate. Is it in Kenya, Hawaii, Chicago, and Indonesia?

We believe the Certification of Live Birth is authentic, but that is not that part where it gets tricky with parsing of words and comparing apples to oranges. The document provided by the Obama campaign to Factcheck.org, which Obama has ties to, has nagging issues. First of all, the document presented is technically inferior, and people want to see the vault or long form. See an example of a real long form Certificate of Live Birth. Its shades of Bill Clinton and what the definition of what “is” is and this is where the unhinged pundits of Obama can’t seem to distinguish the difference. What Americans want to see is the above and they were given a document that does not have enough information and simply conveys that a Certificate of Live Birth exists. Below is a side-by-side image of what people are asking for and what they got. Fact: Obama released a Certification of Live Birth but failed to provide the requested Certificate of Live Birth. This political maneuver is known as the Dodd-Dodge.

The Kindergarten Conspiracy is simply that Obama's Noelani Elementary School Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the State of Hawaii Department of Education. See the above link to where local paper reports the lost records. The important feature of this conspiracy is that Kindergarten records would have contained the following: 1. Obama's REAL Birth Certificate. 2. An application with the following: • His Legal name. • Parents or Legal Guardians’ names. • Date of Birth • Place of Birth • Vaccination Records

Conspiracy theorists contend that the loss of records is important for two additional reasons. The Department of Education does not "lose" the records of one particular student. Breeding the claim, who paid whom what sum to make this record disappear? Finally the loss prevents the release of shamefully low test scores, embarrassing Equal Opportunity advancements, and trails of fraudulent funding to hide that could possibly "excuse" the quashing of public school Kindergarten entry records. Adding to the fuel is the fact that for the rest of his life he attended very expensive private schools and has had his records legally sealed to deny the public his true life story.

School in JakartaThe Kindergarten twins (Nordyke) conspiracy spun off from the “lost” kindergarten records. The question is why the Nordyke twin’s, who were born a few hours after Obama, announcement was missing from the newspaper. The theory is that they were removed so Obama’s could be inserted. A possible explanation is that since the father was a physician of some note the girls’ birth announcement was in the announced in a separate article. The mother of twin’s recalls nothing of significance while she was in the hospital and can neither confirm or deny Obama and his mother were there.

The Jakarta plot begins with Obama’s stepfather (Lolo Soetero) taking the family to Jakarta, Indonesia and enrolled him in a Catholic school (Fransiskus Assisi) as Barry Soetoro as seen on the only document that exists in the public from any of Obama’s schools. It was not released by Obama but obtained by an investigative reporter.

This document bred a whole new series of heories that Obama was adopted by Soetero and Obama became a citizen on Indonesia. Under Indonesian law, Obama could not hold dual citizenship. But U.S. law would still recognize Obama as an American citizen. This led to theory that Obama traveled to Pakistan in college under an Indonesia passport. In the early 1980’s, it was very difficult to enter Pakistan under a U.S. passport.

The Barry Soetero issue exploded into theories that Obama’s real name was Barry Soetero and he attended U.S. colleges under that name and as an Indonesian national. The fact that all of Obama’s school records are sealed flamed the conspiracy fire. It was not clear whether Soetoro adopted Obama, either in Hawaii or in Indonesia, but there is strong circumstantial evidence that he did as far as Indonesian law was concerned. The facts are that in Indonesia, which was under tight rule in 1967, Obama clearly took on the last name of his stepfather in school registration documents. All Indonesian students were required to carry government identity cards, or Karty Tanda Pendudaks, which needed to bear the student's legal name, which should be matched in public school registration filings. According to Indonesian legal experts, it was difficult to enroll non-Indonesian citizens in public schooling.

It was the scrutiny of Obama’s Indonesia chapter that fueled the fires that Obama was a Muslim, received Muslim teachings in school and attended a Mosque regularly with Lolo Soetero. However, it was the Pakistan trip revelation that raised a few eyebrows. Obama last April disclosed he traveled as a college student to Pakistan in 1981. "I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college – I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee," Obama reportedly stated at a fundraising event. Obama had not previously disclosed any trip to Pakistan, either in his books or in a multitude of policy talks regarding Pakistan.

Obama’s disclosure prompted ABC News to contact the presidential candidate's campaign, which confirmed that in 1981, the year Obama transferred from Occidental College to Columbia University, Barack visited his mother and sister Maya in Indonesia. Obama then went on to Pakistan with a friend from college whose family was from that country, the campaign said. Further, it was disclosed that Obama was in Pakistan for about three weeks, said the campaign, staying with his friend's family in Karachi and also visiting Hyderabad in Southern India.

Pakistan in 1981 was under military rule. It was difficult for U.S. citizens to travel to the country without assistance. It would have been easier for someone to enter Pakistan on an Indonesian passport. If Obama indeed possessed Indonesian citizenship as a child, it is unlikely he retains such citizenship. This has never been disclosed or discussed by the Obama campaign. This posed the question about Obama's registration in Indonesia under the name "Barry Soetoro" also raises questions as to whether he adopted that name in the U.S. at any time. According to Illinois state filings, when Obama registered as an attorney in 1991, under the name Barack Obama, he attested to never using any other names or aliases.

Most of the conspiracies may seem petty and insignificant, but it does indicate that Obama has not been transparent or honest with the American people or the fact he could easily put this to rest but elects not to. Remember, this is the man that said he attended a church for twenty years and never listened to a sermon.

In Part 3, we’ll discuss the Sarah Obama interview and Mombasa hospital who claims to have medical records on Obama and his mother but have been classified by the state. Then there is the Michelle Obama interview with API, and API attempting to sell to Fox News the exclusive recordings and copies Obama’s birth documents.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; History; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: 14thamendment; article2section1; barackobama; barrysoetoro; bho2009; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; california; certifigate; citizenship; cnn; constitution; corruption; coverup; democratscandals; doublestandard; eligibility; forgery; fraud; hawaii; indonesia; ineligible; kenya; keyes; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; obamatruthfile; occidentalcollege; orly; orlytaitz; pakistan; passport; passports; perjury; taitz; visa
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To: mouse1
I was told to move on and attack him on the issues. Obviously that didnt get us very far.

He was even more vague on the issues than he has been about his life.

Or are we supposed to take the story in his books as gospel. It has been promoted as the popular fable, the only real 'information' on his life, and an apparent fabrication (at least in part) which has the appearances of being ghost-written as well.

Smoke and mirrors, no substance.

101 posted on 07/26/2009 11:42:51 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: LucyT; airborne; AngieGal; auggy; bearsgirl90; bethtopaz; BigBadWolf; Blogger; bradthebuilder; ...
FROM:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread485654/pg1

Obama: An Intelligence Investigator’s June 10 Report

In December ‘08 a retired CIA officer commissioned an investigator to look into the Barack Obama birth certificate and eligibility issue.

During the investigation shocking evidence was uncovered that Obama campaign operatives unlawfully accessed State Department Passport files. During the investigation of the "scrubbing" of Obama's passport files a young man who was scheduled to testify in the matter was shot and killed while sitting in his car.

Below is an excerpt of the full investigative article. The link is to the full report.

"It should be added that “Obama’s top terrorism and intelligence adviser, John O. Brennan, heads a firm that was cited in March for breaching sensitive files in the State Department’s passport office, according to a State Department Inspector General’s report released this past July.

“The security breach, first reported by the Washington Times and later confirmed by State Department spokesman Sean McCormack, involved a contract employee of Brennan’s firm, The Analysis Corp., which has earned millions of dollars providing intelligence-related consulting services to federal agencies and private companies.

“During a State Department briefing on March 21, 2008, McCormack confirmed that the contractor had accessed the passport files of presidential candidates Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and John McCain, and that the inspector general had launched an investigation.

“Sources who tracked the investigation tell Newsmax that the main target of the breach was the Obama passport file, and that the contractor accessed the file in order to ‘cauterize’ the records of potentially embarrassing information.

“ ‘They looked at the McCain and Clinton files as well to create confusion,’ one knowledgeable source told Newsmax. ‘But this was basically an attempt to cauterize the Obama file.’

“At the time of the breach, Brennan was working as an unpaid adviser to the Obama campaign.

” ‘This individual’s actions were taken without the knowledge or direction of anyone at The Analysis Corp. and are wholly inconsistent with our professional and ethical standards,’ Brennan’s company said in a statement sent to reporters after the passport breach was made public.

“The passport files include ‘personally identifiable information such as the applicant’s name, gender, social security number, date and place of birth, and passport number,’ according to the inspector general report.

“The files may contain additional information including ‘original copies of the associated documents,’ the report added. Such documents include birth certificates, naturalization certificates, or oaths of allegiance for U.S.-born persons who adopted the citizenship of a foreign country as minors.”

“The State Department Office of Inspector General (OIG) issued a 104-page report on the breach last July. Although it is stamped ‘Sensitive but Unclassified,’ the report was heavily redacted in the version released to the public, with page after page blacked out entirely.”

www.newsmax.com...

The following may be relevant:

www.washingtontimes.com...

Key witness in passport fraud case fatally shot
Saturday, April 19, 2008

“A key witness in a federal probe into passport information stolen from the State Department was fatally shot in front of a District church, the Metropolitan Police Department said yesterday.

“Lt. Quarles Harris Jr., 24, who had been cooperating with a federal investigators, was found late Thursday night slumped dead inside a car, in front of the Judah House Praise Baptist Church in Northeast, said Cmdr. Michael Anzallo, head of the department’s Criminal Investigations Division."


www.westernjournalism.com...

102 posted on 07/26/2009 12:20:49 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; real_patriotic_american; mouse1; Smokin' Joe; LucyT; Polarik; Beckwith; Fred Nerks; ...

103 posted on 07/26/2009 12:39:26 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: PhilDragoo

Interesting.

What are your thoughts on the implications of all the above?

. . . that you’re willing to share hereon!??


104 posted on 07/26/2009 12:44:46 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
The access may have altered (removed or replaced or added) data to ali Hussein's file.

The access may have been to assess liability.

The multiple access provides cover.

The access done by an employee "without instruction or knowledge of the contractor (Brennan)" provides deniability.

Brennan withdrew in the face of "torture" flak, but remains a significant advisor.

Brennan would be familiar with the creation and maintenance of a legend, and is therefore particularly useful.

105 posted on 07/26/2009 12:52:30 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: PhilDragoo

Well put, imho.

Thx.


106 posted on 07/26/2009 2:07:09 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: real_patriotic_american

” In the early 1980?s, it was very difficult to enter Pakistan under a U.S. passport”

No it wasn’t.


107 posted on 07/26/2009 2:09:56 PM PDT by Jim Noble (I hope Sarah will start a 2nd party soon)
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To: MHGinTN

I had heard suspicion that he was born in Canada because of their presence in Seattle couple of weeks after birth. Have not heard of any hard evidence to substantiate that.

The whole thing cannot pass the smell test, although I do not pretend to understand what actually happened.

Something this complicated cannot “stay buried”. It will eventually come out.


108 posted on 07/26/2009 3:18:15 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: justiceseeker93

Yes, he is a “Red Diaper Baby!” Born & Bred.


109 posted on 07/26/2009 3:20:08 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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