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Saving Endangered Languages from Being Forgotten [Siberian Ob-Ugrian languages Mansi and Khanti]
ScienceDaily ^ | Thursday, January 28, 2010 | University of Vienna, via AlphaGalileo

Posted on 01/31/2010 7:24:31 PM PST by SunkenCiv

With only 3.000 speakers in Northwest Siberia the Ob-Ugrian language Mansi is on the verge of extinction. Predictions say it will be extinct in ten to twenty years at the latest. The same holds true for Khanti, a member of the same language family. It is for this reason that extensive documentation is so important.

Johanna Laakso, professor for Finno-Ugrian Studies at the University of Vienna concerns herself with the documentation of this and other minority languages in the framework of an FWF project and the EU project ELDIA...

The documentation of the languages Mansi and Khanti is additionally of great importance because their speakers are to be found almost only in the older generations. "The younger generation hardly speaks any of the Ob-Ugrian languages any more," explains Laakso. "Our work will make the research tradition and the knowledge available more accessible to modern international linguistics." One of the major tasks will be to internationalize materials on the Mansi and Khanti languages, i.e. to translate them from Russian and other languages into English.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: epigraphyandlanguage; finnougrian; godsgravesglyphs; hungarian; khanti; khanty; language; linguistics; mansi; obugrian; russia; saami; siberia; uralic

1 posted on 01/31/2010 7:24:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 01/31/2010 7:25:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I fear for the English language in the Twin Cities.....

;-)


3 posted on 01/31/2010 7:28:03 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Political Correctness Will Get Us All Killed)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

que?


4 posted on 01/31/2010 7:32:19 PM PST by gop4lyf (Obama wants to raise taxes and kill babies. Palin wants to raise babies and kill taxes.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
That would be new ~ English in MPLS.

In digging up one of the tribes that makes up a major component in my personal genome I found only 500 "native speakers" were left and most of them lived within blow up range of an abandoned and rusting Russian nuclear submarine fleet!

Someone bothered to render their language (Skolt Sa'ami) into writing in the 1950s, but there has been a decided disinterest in learning to read it or write it so you can't actually pick up a printed dictionary or grammar book ~ just copies of typed out stuff.

Still, darned if I didn't figure out how to translate two family hand me down words that survived the 375 years that line had been in America.

I'm happy. They should move away from the submarines though.

5 posted on 01/31/2010 7:42:03 PM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: SunkenCiv

Why document it? Is there some ancient writings in these two obscure language that may give us insight into their culture?


6 posted on 01/31/2010 7:46:46 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Truth - Reality through the eyes of God.)
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To: gop4lyf

no habla jibber jabber


7 posted on 01/31/2010 7:50:59 PM PST by Pelham (ObamaCare, it comes with a toe tag)
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To: SunkenCiv
Do they use hieroglyphics?
8 posted on 01/31/2010 7:57:02 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

? Ugrian languages (which exist in Europe as well, Finno-Ugric arrived in Europe thanks to the Huns, in Finland and Hungary). Dunno about the writing system of these tribes.


9 posted on 01/31/2010 8:03:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Actually, the Huns were likely Turkic, not Finno-Ugric.


10 posted on 01/31/2010 9:03:59 PM PST by Jacob Kell
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To: SunkenCiv

Learning any language is so much like work that NOBODY should ever have to learn a dead one. An intelligent child would be likely to murder his parents in their sleep for bringing him up speaking “ob-ugrian”.


11 posted on 01/31/2010 9:18:24 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: SunkenCiv

What about Apache?


12 posted on 01/31/2010 9:27:56 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: muawiyah; SunkenCiv

Ko’st lij baar?


13 posted on 01/31/2010 9:32:37 PM PST by blam
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To: muawiyah

That is really fascinating. Good on ya. Genealogy research is so compelling.


14 posted on 01/31/2010 9:59:11 PM PST by ottbmare (I could agree wth you, but then we'd both be wrong.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Man,...I have been touring the Urals....beautiful mountains...

I started with the Huns...and one thing led to another....


15 posted on 01/31/2010 10:23:41 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: blam
All I can say is: "http://www.travelphrases.info/languages/skoltsaami.htm

Thank goodness for the internet. Ladino, the language of the Spanish Jews, is also on the net and will be saved for the ages. Same with Mingo! (Iroquois).

16 posted on 02/01/2010 4:33:46 AM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: SunkenCiv
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17 posted on 02/01/2010 5:18:10 AM PST by ThanhPhero (di tray hoi den La Vang)
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