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Flat-faced hominid skulls from China
Science Frontiers #83 ^ | Sep-Oct 1992 | William R. Corliss

Posted on 08/12/2010 4:58:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

The "African Eve" theory of human evolution was given much play in the media a few years back. According to the "African" view, modern humans arose exclusively in Africa and, about 100,000 years ago, expanded rapidly from there into Europe and Asia, displacing "lesser" hominids. Unfortunately, the DNA studies that stimulated this conjecture have been found to be flawed. And now new fossil testimony casts further doubt.

In 1989 and 1990, near the Han River, in China's Hube Province, anthropologists found hominid skulls with the characteristic flat faces of modern humans. These skulls seem to be about 350,000 years old. Although they apparently retain some primitive features, paleoanthropologist D. Erler, of the University of California, asserted, "This shows that modern features were emerging in different parts of the world." In other words, all of the evolutionary action was not confined to Africa. Proponents of the "African Eve" theory retort that the dating of the Chinese skulls is questionable and that flat faces alone are not enough to support the idea that modern humans arose separately in widely separated locales?

(Gibbons, Ann; "An About-Face for Modern Human Origins," Science, 256: 1521, 1992. Also: Bower, Bruce; "Erectus Unhinged," Science News, 141:408, 1992.)

Comment. Could the African and Asian fossils imply that so-called "parallel" or "convergent" evolution has occurred in the human lineage, too, just as it has in so many other forms of life?

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1 posted on 08/12/2010 4:59:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 08/12/2010 4:59:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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3 posted on 08/12/2010 5:00:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv

It seems like the more they learn the less they know!


4 posted on 08/12/2010 5:02:36 PM PDT by red tie
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To: red tie

To some people.


5 posted on 08/12/2010 5:05:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv

Tell me about their eyes


6 posted on 08/12/2010 5:12:48 PM PDT by mainsail that ("A man will fight harder for his interests than for his rights" - Napoleon Bonaparte)
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To: SunkenCiv
Interesting.

BTW, flipped back to one of your older references and there was an element of criticism of the "Clovis Only" thesis.

Since that time, and the discovery of Sa'ami marker DNA in North American Indians, the thesis has been ADJUSTED quite a bit. Now you find it common for analysts to suggest Europeans (that is, Sa'ami) made it to North America even 25,000 years ago, or possibly even earlier.

We note, though, that the time-line for supposed earlier East Asian penetration is focused on a single copralite found in a cave!

One more East Asian group has been added to the Sa'ami/Berber/Indian group ~ the Yakuts are now identified as having an ancient lineage from Europe.

These folks are, of course, ancestral to the Sakha, and to the Eskimo, and very closely related to the primary East Asian group that makes up the greater part of the American Indian background (for both North and South America).

An African tribe has also been added to the group with the clear implication that the Sa'ami marker genes were delivered TO Africans, not the other way around.

Catching up on the Sakha, they are mentioned in the Indian Epic "Mahabarat" among the "nations" fighting in the war between "truth and untruth". They were later expelled about 200 AD.

7 posted on 08/12/2010 5:18:23 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SunkenCiv

I love Darwinists. They’re just so CUTE with their lil theories! :-)


8 posted on 08/12/2010 5:20:40 PM PDT by patriot preacher
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To: SunkenCiv
Proponents of the "African Eve" theory retort that the dating of the Chinese skulls is questionable and that flat faces alone are not enough to support the idea that modern humans arose separately in widely separated locales?

The politically correct, multi-culti sorts will fiercely resist any evidence that the races evolved in any substantially different ways. They just love the "everything thing originated in Africa" version of the story.

9 posted on 08/12/2010 5:29:11 PM PDT by Will88
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Betty Davis.


10 posted on 08/12/2010 5:32:59 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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11 posted on 08/12/2010 5:42:45 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: SunkenCiv
I for one do not subscribe to the out of Africa theory. There are just too many hominid skeletons found throughout the world for there to be only a single seat for the evolution of homo sapiens.

Likelihood is that the major races each started in their own native location on the globe, and the palaeontologists have not got the complete picture yet.

12 posted on 08/12/2010 6:04:52 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_thela_quintessentia_1.html)
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We note, though, that the time-line for supposed earlier East Asian penetration is focused on a single copralite found in a cave!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

No $hit? Did it have a pair of chop sticks beside it or something?


13 posted on 08/12/2010 6:08:11 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_thela_quintessentia_1.html)
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It was the DNA ~


14 posted on 08/12/2010 6:14:34 PM PDT by muawiyah
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Appropo to nothing at all, the drinking yogurt my wife buys is made by a Japanese company named Yakult.

These mysterious connections just seem to leap right out at one.


15 posted on 08/12/2010 6:20:46 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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The easy solution to the conundrum is that a human population would move North during interglacials or maybe even interstadials, and then move South back to East Africa during the glacial peaks.

Over the last 2.5 million years there are 21 times that could have happened (at a minimum), and maybe as many as 100 times all things considered.

Most of the record of human development to handle colder and higher latitudes would have been destroyed in this process, or in the comings and goings of the Sahara desert.

It's noteworthy that sometimes the Middle Eastern arid zone is FAR LARGER and constitutes as big a desert as the Sahara ~ it has not always been the case that people could travel South from Central Asia back to Africa or to Sundaland.

The other day in reading about how fast the ability to confer lifelong lactase production can be passed into a population (they have a living example of a Sa'ami group that picked it up in about 5 generations), I realized that all but about 25% of Subsaharan Africans have that ability ~ which is traceable TO Northern and Western Europeans.

Those genes flowed South to Africa, not North to Europe. All the other genes could have done so as well.

There's little reason to imagine that "modern" development even occurred in Africa.

16 posted on 08/12/2010 6:23:34 PM PDT by muawiyah
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"Yak" means a bunch of things in Uralic-Altaic languages ~ and Japanese has a strong Uralic-Altaic base. In short, it's literally a Turkic language with Austranesian terms strewn here and there, and the preservation of a handful of words from the days when the Emeshi (folks with molars with 5 roots) ruled the islands.

A Yak is an important animal in Northeast Asia. it is among those herded by the Yakuts ~ who also herd horses, reindeer, goats, sheep and COWS ~ being the only Turkic speaking group in East Asia to herd cows at all. It is believed they picked up that custom during a sojourn in India.

Turks invented yoghurt of course.

17 posted on 08/12/2010 6:29:51 PM PDT by muawiyah
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If you want to know more about the Yakuts or Sakha, there are several entertaining videos. One I like is at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy8bJW9zGTA Pay close attention to the blond haired Japanese looking lady who is speaking Russian (dubbed in English). Watch her walk out into -50 F weather in light clothes and a fur muff ~ she’s got Sa’ami in her background too.


18 posted on 08/12/2010 6:41:42 PM PDT by muawiyah
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Thats a really interesting fact to know, I woder how the theorists who promote “Out of Africa” handle that argument. Its sounds pretty solid to me.

So much of science today is driven by political correctness.
The climate boondoggle being the greatest modern example, and the Omana Junta ready to milk it for personal millions in Cap N Trade.

The Chinese are on to their approach because they too genuinely believe that China is the cradle of ALL civilization. I am glad they are giving the Africa origin
school a run for their money.

The indiginous Europeans must have found a way to live in the glacial periods, one wonders where they went.It will be found one day, likely under the Mediterranean Ocean.


19 posted on 08/12/2010 6:43:34 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_thela_quintessentia_1.html)
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The indigenous Europeans were, of course, the Neanderthals. During Interglacials they easily moved across Eur-Asia, and all the way to New Guinea!

There were OTHER groups, though, and during interglacials they also moved across Eur-Asia.

It is difficult to imagine that they couldn't move to Africa, and back into Eur-Asia.

The groups in Africa may well be "ancestral" at some level, but at the same time they've been on the receiving end of a lot of East-West and North-South gene flow ~ just like happens today.

They've developed their own optimal types for living in the Tropics.

20 posted on 08/12/2010 6:50:37 PM PDT by muawiyah
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