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Ancient Greek Pill-Poppers Dosed Themselves With Carrots and Yarrow
Discover magazine 'blogs ^ | September 10th, 2010 | Joseph Calamia

Posted on 09/10/2010 7:30:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Pill-popping ancients liked a good dose of vegetables, archaeobotanists have found after analyzing plant DNA in Greek-made pills from a 130 BC shipwreck.

Though archaeologists have known about the ship since the 1980s, this is the first time researchers have had a crack at analyzing the drugs found onboard. Using the GenBank genetic database as their guide, they have found that the pills appear to contain carrot, parsley, radish, alfalfa, chestnut, celery, wild onion, yarrow, oak, and cabbage.

Geneticist Robert Fleischer of the Smithsonian's National Zoological Park says that many of the ingredients match those described in ancient texts, New Scientist reports. Yarrow was meant to slow blood coming from a wound, and carrot-as described by Pedanius Dioscorides, a pharmacologist in Rome-was thought to ward off reptiles and aid in conception.

Fleischer and colleagues presented these first results yesterday at the Fourth International Symposium on Biomolecular Archaeology in Denmark, and Nature's blog The Great Beyond reports that the pills also contained some surprises. For one, researchers found sunflower or helianthus believed to be a New World plant unknown to the Europeans until the 1400s. Now researchers must determine if the ancient Greeks really prescribed sunflower concoctions or if the some modern, ancient drug handlers contaminated the find. They also hope to find "theriaca," a medicine described in ancient texts as containing 80 different plants-a pill to put the modern health drink V8 to shame.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.discovermagazine.com ...


TOPICS: Agriculture; History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; shipwreck; tuscany; vegetables; wreck
Ancient DNA reveals ingredients of Roman medicine
by Ewen Callaway
September 9, 2010
Ancient Roman pharmacies must have looked a lot like vegetable gardens. DNA analysis of 2000-year-old medicinal tablets suggests the pills included onions, carrots and other garden vegetables.

Medical texts written by Pliny the elder and others detail herbal remedies the Romans and Greeks used, but not a lot is known about the contents of individual tablets, says Robert Fleischer, a geneticist at the Smithsonian Conservation Biology Institute in Washington, D.C. He presented early results from the analysis at the International Symposium of Biomolecular Archaeology in Copenhagen, Denmark yesterday.

His team obtained the tablets from a shipwreck off the coast of Tuscany that probably occurred between 140 and 120 BCE, based on items recovered from the ship, which was excavated in the 1980s and 90s. Among them was a wooden medical chest stocked with well-preserved tablets filled with what looked like ground plants and vegetables.

To find out what the medicines were made of, Fleischer extracted DNA from two of the tablets and sequenced DNA from the chloroplasts. Among the components were vegetables such as onions, carrots, parsley and cabbage, as well as alfalfa, hawthorn, hibiscus and chestnut -- all known to have grown in the Mediterranean at the time, or available to Romans. "All this makes sense," says team member Alain Touwaide, also at the Smithsonian. Sequencing also turned up a few head scratchers, including a new world plant called helianthus, that probably represent contamination.

His team is working on ferreting out such contaminants and obtaining more tablets, so those looking for a dose of Roman medicine might want to hang onto their trowels.

1 posted on 09/10/2010 7:31:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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I’m not sure if this is the same one or not:

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Ship wreck provides historic data
Famagusta Gazette | Thursday, December 20, 2007
Posted on 12/20/2007 12:35:27 PM PST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1942436/posts


2 posted on 09/10/2010 7:33:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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3 posted on 09/10/2010 7:37:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: SunkenCiv

interesting


4 posted on 09/10/2010 7:42:01 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: SunkenCiv

5 posted on 09/10/2010 7:44:23 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: SunkenCiv
Works for me,hold the yarrow add some vodka....
6 posted on 09/10/2010 7:44:37 PM PDT by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: GeronL

All Your Yarrow Are Belong To Us!

Seriously, that was a hell of a lot of work for that post. That wore me out looking at the effort.


7 posted on 09/10/2010 7:46:02 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: SunkenCiv

“...and carrot-as described by Pedanius Dioscorides, a pharmacologist in Rome-was thought to ward off reptiles...”

We need to plant carrots around the White House, quick!!!


8 posted on 09/10/2010 8:02:03 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9

“V”


9 posted on 09/10/2010 8:11:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: GSP.FAN

Gosh, I could have had some carrots and yarrow!


10 posted on 09/10/2010 8:20:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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The Porticello Wreck: A 5th Century B.C. Merchantman in Italy
Institute of Nautical Archaeology | on web, January 2003 | Cynthia Jones Eiseman
Posted on 10/17/2004 8:31:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/1248367/posts


11 posted on 09/10/2010 8:48:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: goseminoles; SunkenCiv

SunkenCiv works hard for the post views!


12 posted on 09/10/2010 8:49:50 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: GeronL; SunkenCiv

I’m just giggling. I’m listening to O’Reilly and Beck battle over the end of the world and we have Yarrow to discuss.


13 posted on 09/10/2010 8:54:16 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: goseminoles

I still have no clue what Yarrow is, lol.


14 posted on 09/10/2010 8:55:29 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: SunkenCiv
...and carrot-as described by Pedanius Dioscorides, a pharmacologist in Rome-was thought to ward off reptiles and aid in conception.

If your attempts to conceive involve a carrot, you're doing it wrong.

15 posted on 09/10/2010 8:57:38 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: GeronL

:”)


16 posted on 09/10/2010 8:59:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: Beowulf9
For that matter, we could benefit if Carrot Top was Prez instead of Zero.
"Carrot Top Wants YOU!"

Carrot Top in 2012

17 posted on 09/10/2010 9:02:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: Grizzled Bear

[singing] peelings, nothin’ more than peelings...


18 posted on 09/10/2010 9:03:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: GeronL

He wrote that song that’s so popular at weddings.


19 posted on 09/10/2010 9:03:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: goseminoles

Yarrow know more if you turn that thing off and stick with us. ;’)


20 posted on 09/10/2010 9:04:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: JoeProBono

Dang, couldn’t ya get any AMERICAN grown yarrow? ;’)


21 posted on 09/10/2010 9:05:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: SunkenCiv

Carrot Tops real dad was a veggie??


22 posted on 09/10/2010 9:08:08 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: SunkenCiv

Carrots&Yarrow were upstaged by Hall & Oats


23 posted on 09/10/2010 9:09:03 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: SunkenCiv
The stage musical Cats was also a hit back in the Roman Empire. The audience threw carrots and yarrow no doubt.
24 posted on 09/10/2010 9:11:20 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: GeronL

“I still have no clue what Yarrow is, lol.”

I’m just hoping I don’t wake up too hung over tom-yarrow... LOL!!


25 posted on 09/10/2010 9:26:14 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: goseminoles

Are you yarrow-minded?


26 posted on 09/10/2010 9:31:58 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: GeronL

“Are you yarrow-minded?”

I’m not so yarrow minded that I just heard Hannity blame TARP on Obama. Sorry to change the subject. Yarrow with me? Must have been a slip...


27 posted on 09/10/2010 9:39:08 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: goseminoles

yar

TARP was that idiotic thing that helped turn off the GOP base for the last election.

Them thar RINO’s.


28 posted on 09/10/2010 9:41:11 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: GeronL

Ok. If this thread hits 50 posts, you know Koran burning is getting old. :o)


29 posted on 09/10/2010 9:42:45 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: goseminoles

The next controversy is a parody rock song called “Burning down the Mosque”


30 posted on 09/10/2010 9:43:45 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: GeronL

“The next controversy is a parody rock song called ?Burning down the Mosque”

That’s so 80’s....

I think tom-yarrow, some books will be burned, and I hope those people that do get there jollies... We have bigger fish to fry. Like Ahmed-al-Ja-yarrow. He’s a pussy. LOL!!


31 posted on 09/10/2010 9:49:52 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: goseminoles

lol.


32 posted on 09/10/2010 9:50:41 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: GeronL

Yeah, I was stretching that as far as it will go... ;o)


33 posted on 09/10/2010 9:57:14 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: goseminoles

Yar!


34 posted on 09/10/2010 9:58:27 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: SunkenCiv
Sounds like a pretty good & healthy combination to me. Looks to be good for circulation, the liver, a slight urinary stimulant and a mild detox effect. Also looks like it would benefit digestion of food and providing support for the immune system.

I'd put it in a blender with some water and ice cubes...MMmmm!
35 posted on 09/10/2010 10:15:53 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: SunkenCiv

“and carrot-as described by Pedanius Dioscorides, a pharmacologist in Rome-was thought to ward off reptiles”

Solving the mystery of why we never see serpents and carrots together.


36 posted on 09/10/2010 10:49:39 PM PDT by Pelham (Islam, the mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: Pelham

Good point. I had been wondering about that just this morning.


37 posted on 09/11/2010 6:13:07 AM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: Pelham

Probably the carrots drove the serpents out of Ireland.


38 posted on 09/11/2010 6:30:52 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: SunkenCiv

I don’t need to keep my eyes on the yarrow. God does that for reasons only SHe knows.


39 posted on 09/11/2010 8:30:14 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: SunkenCiv

It’s entirely possible that a pill combining yarrow and carrot was designed to enhance erectile function similar to modern day Viagra.

“Yarrow was meant to slow blood coming from a wound, and carrot-as described by Pedanius Dioscorides, a pharmacologist in Rome-was thought to ward off reptiles and aid in conception.”

“Slowing blood” might concentrate blood in the affected organ and the objective of aiding in conception can easily be connected to erectile properties.

And we know that ancient peoples often made a connection between the visual properties of a plant or animal and a therapeutical use for Man.

BEHOLD THE CARROT!


40 posted on 09/11/2010 8:45:39 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: wildbill

Think about it, how much of a “serving” of veggies are you going to get from a pill?


41 posted on 09/11/2010 10:35:24 AM PDT by marsh2
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To: marsh2

Think about it. How much confidence are you going to get from a prayer?

Or how much sound advice from Johnathan Swift’s “A Modest Proposal For Preventing the Children of Poor People in Ireland from Being a Burden to Their Parents or Country, and for Making Them Beneficial to the Publick”


42 posted on 09/11/2010 11:37:10 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: SunkenCiv

they were good boys and girls who ate their vegies.


43 posted on 09/13/2010 8:42:15 AM PDT by Coleus (Abortion, Euthanasia & FOCA - - don't Obama and the Democrats just kill ya!)
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To: GeronL

I want my yarrow and I want it now!

44 posted on 09/13/2010 2:29:56 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

lol.

It’s your Yarrow, you should have it when you want it.

Call Caesar JG Wentworth now!!


45 posted on 09/13/2010 2:36:33 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Coleus

:’)


46 posted on 09/13/2010 5:09:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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