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King Arthur's round table may have been found by archaeologists in Scotland
The Telegraph ^ | 26 Aug 2011 | Telegraph

Posted on 08/26/2011 1:05:30 PM PDT by Palter

Archaeologists searching for King Arthur's round table have found a "circular feature" beneath the historic King's Knot in Stirling.

The King's Knot, a geometrical earthwork in the former royal gardens below Stirling Castle, has been shrouded in mystery for hundreds of years.

Though the Knot as it appears today dates from the 1620s, its flat-topped central mound is thought to be much older.

Writers going back more than six centuries have linked the landmark to the legend of King Arthur.

Archaeologists from Glasgow University, working with the Stirling Local History Society and Stirling Field and Archaeological Society, conducted the first ever non-invasive survey of the site in May and June in a bid to uncover some of its secrets.

Their findings were show there was indeed a round feature on the site that pre-dates the visible earthworks.

Historian John Harrison, chair of the SLHS, who initiated the project, said: "Archaeologists using remote-sensing geophysics, have located remains of a circular ditch and other earth works beneath the King's Knot.

"The finds show that the present mound was created on an older site and throws new light on a tradition that King Arthur's Round Table was located in this vicinity."

Stories have been told about the curious geometrical mound for hundreds of years -- including that it was the Round Table where King Arthur gathered his knights.

Around 1375 the Scots poet John Barbour said that "the round table" was south of Stirling Castle, and in 1478 William of Worcester told how "King Arthur kept the Round Table at Stirling Castle".

Sir David Lindsay, the 16th century Scottish writer, added to the legend in 1529 when he said that Stirling Castle was home of the "Chapell-royall, park, and Tabyll Round".

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: arthur; caledonia; godsgravesglyphs; kingarthur; kingsknot; pictish; picts; roundtable; scotland; scotlandyet; stirling; stirlingcastle

1 posted on 08/26/2011 1:05:36 PM PDT by Palter
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To: SunkenCiv

Arthur, ping.


2 posted on 08/26/2011 1:06:15 PM PDT by Palter (Celebrate diversity .22, .223, .25, 9mm, .32 .357, 10mm, .44, .45, .500)
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To: Palter

The King's Knot in the grounds of Stirling Castle

3 posted on 08/26/2011 1:09:22 PM PDT by Palter (Celebrate diversity .22, .223, .25, 9mm, .32 .357, 10mm, .44, .45, .500)
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To: Palter
Behold the cave of Kyre Banorg!

Cue Monty Python-esque music here...

4 posted on 08/26/2011 1:16:54 PM PDT by NorCoGOP (Obama's approval ratings: so low that Kenyans now accuse him of being born in the USA)
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To: Palter

Great! The enchanted forest can’t be far.


5 posted on 08/26/2011 1:17:11 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Palter; blam

It’s not my fault.


6 posted on 08/26/2011 1:21:36 PM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Palter
Then they looked under the table and found this label:


7 posted on 08/26/2011 1:21:45 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: Palter

Well, it is certainly round.


8 posted on 08/26/2011 1:23:13 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Palter

Very cool! I’ve always loved the King Arthur legends. It’s wonderful to know it isn’t all myth.


9 posted on 08/26/2011 1:24:40 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Palter

Landing pad.


10 posted on 08/26/2011 1:27:08 PM PDT by Spruce
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To: Palter

Looks like a great place to drink Scotch.


11 posted on 08/26/2011 1:44:25 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Palter
Very interesting, neat picture.

I think I am one of the only people in the world that doesn't like the King Arthur stories, or at least, three of the main characters (the king, the girl, and the best friend - good ol' lance).

12 posted on 08/26/2011 1:46:53 PM PDT by RikaStrom (Pray for Obama - Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his place of leadership.")
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To: RikaStrom

Well, I love the tales, even though some of the characters acted in ways that were less than noble.


13 posted on 08/26/2011 2:09:30 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012)
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To: RikaStrom
I have a very old edition...and the language is from the times...much more stimulating.

I saw Camelot on Broadway in 1962..Awesome!!

14 posted on 08/26/2011 2:12:22 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Twotone
It’s wonderful to know it isn’t all myth.

I remember reading a long time ago that there's a belief that the whole "Sword from the Stone" thing was actually based on the discovery of how to create iron from iron ore.

Mark

15 posted on 08/26/2011 2:13:37 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: MarkL

that actually makes a bit of sense. a lot of legends are just flowery ways of telling real-life acts.

as for those quotes from the 1400-1500’s literature, they are most likely wannabes trying to steal some glory. The Arthur legend dates back to pre-1000 AD I think. every castle in Britain has been claimed as Camelot over the last 1000 years.


16 posted on 08/26/2011 2:58:12 PM PDT by fnord (Republicans are just the right-wing of the left-wing of American politics)
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To: NorCoGOP

Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.


17 posted on 08/26/2011 3:02:01 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

If I went ‘round saying I was an emperor, just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they’d put me away!


18 posted on 08/26/2011 3:03:43 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help!
Help! I’m being repressed!


19 posted on 08/26/2011 3:04:50 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
"Bloody Peasant!"
20 posted on 08/26/2011 3:11:27 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: Palter; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ..

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Palter.
In his book, Dando-Collins connects Mons Graupius with the disappearance of the 9th after it was later posted to Carlisle.
Unfortunately, the 9th Legion never had any such disappearence, other than at the end of the Roman Empire. :') "Eagle of the Ninth" and the related books by the same author (I forget her name) are fun reads for the young though.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


21 posted on 08/26/2011 3:13:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ConorMacNessa

scotland ping


22 posted on 08/26/2011 3:24:28 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: Mat_Helm; dfwgator
The whole scene in Life of Brian, where Eric Idle's character wants to change his name to "Loretta" so he can have the right to have babies despite not having a womb, is just classic. One of the best takedowns of feminism ever.
23 posted on 08/26/2011 3:24:35 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Tzfat
Looks like a great place to drink Scotch.

... Which naturally begs the question: Where isn't a great place to drink Scotch? : )

24 posted on 08/26/2011 3:31:21 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Mat_Helm

what a giveaway


25 posted on 08/26/2011 3:36:48 PM PDT by fnord (Republicans are just the right-wing of the left-wing of American politics)
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To: RikaStrom; SunkenCiv; dfwgator; Twotone; Palter

The correct and true story is that in the pre-pre-past the real “Arthur” was given the knowledge, the ART, of metallurgy in one of those (everybody knows that a woman in water is really just a metaphor for aliens in space) vision things (see Ezekiel) and learned how to produce metals from ore. Draw the sword from the stone.

All that other is just theater.

The theater part started when the Picts came up with the idea of the Pict-o-gram and it just morphed from there and it is just our lot now to be stuck with James Cameron...


26 posted on 08/26/2011 3:42:37 PM PDT by bigheadfred (But alas)
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To: fnord
The Arthur legend dates back to pre-1000 AD I think. every castle in Britain has been claimed as Camelot over the last 1000 years.

Wikipedia says late 400's AD to early 500's AD. Not many records survived from that time. And you are right, just about every Castle, Tower and Manor Home in England and Scotland has made Arthurian claims. As has one of my surname ancestors old lost holdings in Scotland. Do not take much stock in those claims though. There is even stuff that predates Arthurian claims that is just as interesting. Old Pictish holdings and lots a strange stoneworks. Back during the last major Ice Age, the Island was connected to the European mainland and represented the ancient European coastline.

27 posted on 08/26/2011 3:49:42 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Mat_Helm



THE KING IS A FINK!




May I have some more swill, please?

28 posted on 08/26/2011 3:52:55 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch ("Public service" does NOT mean servicing the people, like a bull among heifers.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

The King and the Duke walk into a restaurant.

The Maitre d’ asks, “Do you have Reservations?”

King says, “Yes. But when you’re as hungry as we are, you throw caution to the wind.”


29 posted on 08/26/2011 4:07:27 PM PDT by bigheadfred (But alas)
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To: bigheadfred

It’s good to be the King.


30 posted on 08/26/2011 4:27:57 PM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: wildbill

Unless you have the poor judgement to marry a wookie.


31 posted on 08/26/2011 4:32:42 PM PDT by bigheadfred (But alas)
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To: Palter; onedoug

Cool!


32 posted on 08/26/2011 5:20:03 PM PDT by stylecouncilor (Some minds are like soup in a poor restaurant...better left unstirred.-PG Wodehouse)
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To: Palter

It´s where the ancient skywheel sat when it was here. I can still see Klatu´s ramp.


33 posted on 08/26/2011 6:12:56 PM PDT by onedoug (!)
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To: Twotone

Did you ever read Howard Pyle’s King Arthur books? Beautiful illustrations too. They are the only K.A. books I ever read. I think there are four altogether.

http://www.celtic-twilight.com/camelot/pyle/ka/index.htm

http://www.amazon.com/Story-Arthur-Knights-Sterling-Classics/dp/1402725035/ref=cm_cr_dp_orig_subj


34 posted on 08/26/2011 6:28:05 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

No, I haven’t read them. Thanks for the suggestion. I have a few other books I’ve been planning on ordering from Amazon, & I’ll have to check them out. You might want to try “The Once & Future King” by T.H. White - a very enjoyable novel about King Arthur.


35 posted on 08/26/2011 6:34:22 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Twotone

I read that as an adolescent, too - that’s where I read:

“Everything Not Forbidden Is Mandatory”!

I always wanted to live in King Arthur’s days, not in modern times.


36 posted on 08/26/2011 6:38:22 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Twotone
Just copied this from one of the reviews on Amazon:

The oath of the knights of the Round Table:

"And this was the covenant of their Knighthood of the Round Table: That they would be gentle unto the weak; that they would be courageous unto the strong; that they would be terrible unto the wicked and the evil-doer that they would defend the helpless who should call upon them for aid; that all women should be held unto them sacred; that they would stand unto the defence of one another whensoever such defence should be required; that they would be merciful unto all men; that they would be gentle of deed, true in friendship, and faithful in love. This was their covenant, and unto it each knight sware upon the cross of his sword, and in witness thereof did kiss the hilt thereof."

37 posted on 08/26/2011 6:42:40 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Palter

Reasons exist to believe that if Arthur existed, he hailed from in or near Wales, not Scotland.


38 posted on 08/26/2011 6:45:37 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: little jeremiah
"Did you ever read Howard Pyle’s King Arthur books? Beautiful illustrations too."

I read them long ago. Did you know Howard Pyle was considered to be "the father of American illustration?"

39 posted on 08/26/2011 6:48:19 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Palter; Old Sarge

Thanks, Palter!
Hey Sarge, over ‘ere!
;0)


40 posted on 08/26/2011 6:51:53 PM PDT by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: dfwgator
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.

Well, at least the legend is not about a strange woman holding a world leader's cigars for him.

41 posted on 08/26/2011 7:02:59 PM PDT by piasa
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To: Palter

It looks like a thing (thingvellir).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thing_(assembly)


42 posted on 08/26/2011 11:38:12 PM PDT by patton (I am sure that I have done dumber things in my life, but at the moment, I am unable to recall them.)
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To: wildbill

43 posted on 08/27/2011 2:23:21 AM PDT by Daffynition ("Don't just live your life, but witness it also.")
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To: little jeremiah
Howard Pyle, who is often called "the Father of American Illustration," also began to work in the Brandywine Valley. Pyle established an extraordinarily influential art school in Wilmington and Chadds Ford, where he trained dozens of artists, including major illustrators such as N.C. Wyeth, Harvey Dunn, Jessie Willcox Smith and Frank Schoonover. Pyle and many of his students are represented in the Brandywine River Museum. If you are ever in the Brandywine area, a stop at the charming Brandywine Museum is worth a look; several of Pyle's works are featured. His influence on NC Wyeth is apparent.


44 posted on 08/27/2011 2:37:50 AM PDT by Daffynition ("Don't just live your life, but witness it also.")
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To: little jeremiah

“The oath of the knights of the Round Table.”

Wonderful! Maybe we should make that the Oath of Free Republic - especially the ‘terrible unto the wicked’ part. :-)


45 posted on 08/27/2011 7:00:37 AM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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Stirling Castle sidebar:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2282042/posts


46 posted on 08/27/2011 8:41:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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