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Watery secret of the dinosaur death pose (Simplest explanation of Dino extinction: They drowned)
New Scientist ^ | 11/23/2011 | by Brian Switek

Posted on 11/26/2011 6:26:37 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Recreating the spectacular pose many dinosaurs adopted in death might involve following the simplest of instructions: just add water.

When palaeontologists are lucky enough to find a complete dinosaur skeleton – whether it be a tiny Sinosauropteryx or an enormous Apatosaurus – there's a good chance it will be found with its head thrown backwards and its tail arched upwards – technically known as the opisthotonic death pose. No one is entirely sure why this posture is so common, but Alicia Cutler and colleagues from Brigham Young University in Provo, Utah, think it all comes down to a dip in the wet stuff.

Cutler placed plucked chickens – both fresh and frozen – on a bed of sand for three months to see if desiccation would lead to muscle contractions that pulled the neck upwards – a previously suggested explanation for the death pose. The chickens decayed without contorting. When seven other chickens were placed into cool, fresh water, however, their necks arched and their heads were thrown back within seconds. Sustained immersion of the birds for up to a month slightly increased the severity of the pose, but the major movement of the head occurred almost immediately.

The result contrasts with a study carried out in 2007 by Cynthia Marshall Faux at the Museum of the Rockies in Bozeman, Montana, and Kevin Padian at the University of California in Berkeley. The pair found that salty water did not alter the pose of dead quails. They concluded that the arched back seen in so many fossils was instead the result of the expiring dinosaur's final death throes (Paleobiology, DOI: 10.1666/06015.1) – an idea that was first suggested by pathologist Roy Moodie in 1918.

Why dunking dead birds in water produced different results in the two studies is not clear.

(Excerpt) Read more at newscientist.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; dinosaur; dinosaurs; extinction; godsgravesglyphs; greatflood; paleontology; theory
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1 posted on 11/26/2011 6:26:40 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
In other dinosaur news, PhysOrg reported a nest of 15 Protoceratops juveniles found in Mongolia, the first nest of their genus ever found.  The paleontologist from University of Rhode Island said “I suspect” they were buried in a sandstorm, but admitted they had to be buried rapidly to be preserved in such detail.  And although extinct marine reptiles are not dinosaurs, PhysOrg also reported on an exceptionally-preserved mosasaur fossil discovered in western Kansas. Live Science said of this specimen, “In the fossilized skin samples, the researchers can see not only the animal's scales, but also imprints of the protein fibers that made up its skin.”  The discovery was reported in PLoS ONE by Lindgren et al.1

1. Lindgren J , Everhart MJ , Caldwell MW , 2011 Three-Dimensionally Preserved Integument Reveals Hydrodynamic Adaptations in the Extinct Marine Lizard Ectenosaurus (Reptilia, Mosasauridae). PLoS ONE 6(11): e27343. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0027343.

2 posted on 11/26/2011 6:28:43 PM PST by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: SeekAndFind

Interesting.


3 posted on 11/26/2011 6:28:49 PM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: SeekAndFind

Now why on earth would so many extinct animals die in some sort of freak drowning event???


4 posted on 11/26/2011 6:29:28 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Roll the stone away, Let the guilty pay, It's Independence Day)
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To: SeekAndFind

Noah would be so pleased.


5 posted on 11/26/2011 6:29:44 PM PST by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote)
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To: ClearCase_guy; for-q-clinton
Live Science reported a nest of bird fossils from the dinosaur era that they say was buried in a local flash flood.  The article states, “the limestone block contains remarkably complete egg fossils, representing hundreds of eggs”.  Speaking of birds, PhysOrg reported evidence of a dinosaur that ate birds.  A fossil of Microraptor gui (depending on how one classifies this as a dinosaur) appears to have a small bird fossil in its stomach.  And what could it possibly mean that a giant long-necked titanosaur has been found in Antarctica?  See Live Science for details.
6 posted on 11/26/2011 6:31:14 PM PST by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: SeekAndFind

That makes sense regarding the preservation. The specimens who just die on the ground are bound to be torn up by scavengers. But being caught in a flash flood could kill and quickly bury it.


7 posted on 11/26/2011 6:31:56 PM PST by mnehring
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To: ClearCase_guy

Flash floods aren’t ‘freak’. They happen all the time in some areas.


8 posted on 11/26/2011 6:32:54 PM PST by mnehring
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To: SeekAndFind

The water explanation certainly comports more with the biblical account of how things were before the (re)creation (Genesis 1:2).


9 posted on 11/26/2011 6:34:53 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

It does. Neato.


10 posted on 11/26/2011 6:39:50 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: SeekAndFind; SunkenCiv

interesting but probably way too simple.... could have been true for some parts though


11 posted on 11/26/2011 6:41:48 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: SeekAndFind
A study from Brigham Young University? You better tred carefully posting anything that can be construed as Mormons supporting the bible on this site.

/sarc

12 posted on 11/26/2011 6:42:47 PM PST by Ripliancum (Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you. -Eph. 4:31)
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To: 75thOVI; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; ...

Thanks SeekAndFind.
...there's a good chance it will be found with its head thrown backwards and its tail arched upwards -- technically known as the opisthotonic death pose... Alicia Cutler and colleagues... placed plucked chickens -- both fresh and frozen... into cool, fresh water... their necks arched and their heads were thrown back within seconds... The result contrasts with a study carried out in 2007 by Cynthia Marshall Faux at the Museum of the Rockies in Bozeman, Montana, and Kevin Padian at the University of California in Berkeley. The pair found that salty water did not alter the pose of dead quails.
Sometimes I just like to poke the bear. :')
In The Beginning: The Origin of the Oceans
by Immanuel Velikovsky
The common salt is a substantial ingredient of the oceanic content, or, said differently, the water of the oceans and seas contains a substantial solution of NaCl, or sodium chloride. Even though our blood and tissues abound in sodium chloride, man and animals are not adapted to drink salty water, and life on land could develop only thanks to the evaporation of the water from the surface of seas and oceans, or to distillation -- the evaporating water is free from salts. Falling as rain or snow or dew, it feeds underground sources and also glaciers, and through them the brooks and rivers and lakes, and is delivered to our use usually through concrete tubes and metal pipes.

Of the salts of the seas sodium chloride is by far the most abundant. The provenance of it is, however, a riddle. It was, and still is, assumed that the salts in the oceans originated mainly through importation from land, having been dissolved from rocks by flowing rivulets and rivers, themselves fed by underground sources, and the same process working on the rocks of the seabed. Terrestrial formations are rich in sodium, and in eons of time, it is assumed, the sodium washed out of the rocks supplied its content to the oceans; the seas evaporate and the concentration of these salts grows. But the rocks are by far not so rich in chlorine, and hence the problem -- from where did chlorine come to contribute its abundance to oceanic water? There is chlorine in source water, but usually not in significant amounts. The proportion of salts in the rivers is very different from their proportion in the seas. River water has many carbonates (80 percent of the salts), fewer sulphates (13 percent) and still fewer chlorides (7 percent). Sea water has many chlorides (89 percent), fewer sulphates (10 percent) and only a few carbonates (0.2 percent). The comparison of these figures makes it clear that rivers cannot be made responsible for most of the salts of the seas. Therefore it is also obvious that there is no proper way of calculating the age of the Earth by comparing the amount of salts in the seas with the annual discharge by the rivers; the most that can be done in this respect is to calculate the rich amount of carbonates in the rivers in their relation to the relatively poor concentration to these salts in the seas; but then there will be no explanation for the rich concentration of chlorides in the seas in comparison with their poor concentration in the rivers.

A part of the salts could be traced to the washing of lands and the floor of the seas; chlorine is known also to be discharged by volcanoes, but to account for the chlorine locked in the seas, volcanic eruptions, whether on land or under the surface of the seas, needed to have taken place on an unimaginable scale -- actually, it was figured out, on an impossible scale. Thus it was acknowledged that the provenance of chlorine in the salts of the seas is a problem unsolved.

Paleontological research makes it rather apparent that marine animals in some early age were more closely related to fresh-water fauna; in other words, the salinity of the oceans increased markedly at some age in the past.



13 posted on 11/26/2011 6:44:45 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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The Doctor Fun Page

14 posted on 11/26/2011 6:45:58 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks SeekAndFind.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


15 posted on 11/26/2011 6:46:04 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Usually, sooner or later, real science, through trial and error, eventually comes around to discovering what God's Word has plainly declared all along.

True science is great and fascinating and is the friend of Biblical truth.

16 posted on 11/26/2011 6:48:22 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: GeronL

Thanks GeronL! I didn’t see your ping ‘til now.


17 posted on 11/26/2011 6:48:41 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: PapaNew

As I say to my boys all the time....the goal of science is not to DISPROVE God, but that He exists. ;-)


18 posted on 11/26/2011 6:50:36 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Many dinosaurs traveled in herds and crossed streams and rivers. If at flood stage, some animals would drown and be buried in silt. These would be the specimens most likely to be preserved as fossils. Multiply by millions of dinosaurs times the 165 million years dinosaurs existed as a dominant group on earth and that would pretty much explain why many of the fossils are found in that position.

Really, there are not that many dinosaur fossils found for the huge number that existed and for the length of time they dominated the earth.


19 posted on 11/26/2011 6:51:38 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: mnehring

The fossil record of the trilobite (Wisconsin’s state fossil) makes very interesting reading. Uncountable numbers of them are preserved, whole and undamaged, in some sites their chitinous exoskeletons preserved (not mineralized), obviously mass burials as by a major flood.


20 posted on 11/26/2011 6:51:58 PM PST by Elsiejay (I)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks again. :’)

Immanuel Velikovsky
Earth In Upheaval: The Aquatic Graveyards
(p 19)

An identical picture can be found in many other places all around the world, in similar and dissimilar formations. Of Monte Bolca, near Verona in northern Italy, Buckland wrote: “The circumstances under which the fossil fishes are found at Monte Bolca seem to indicate that they perished suddenly. . . . The skeletons of these fish lie parallel to the laminae of the strata of the calcareous slate; they are always entire, and closely packed on one another. . . . All these fishes must have died suddenly . . . and have been speedily buried in the calcareous sediment then in the course of deposition. From the fact that certain individuals have even preserved traces of colour upon their skin, we are certain that they were entombed before decomposition of their soft parts had taken place.”

The same author wrote about the fish deposits in the area of the Harz Mountains in Germany: “Another celebrated deposit of fossil fishes is that of the cupriferous slate surrounding the Harz. Many of the fishes of this slate at Mansfeld, Eisleben, etc., have a distorted attitude, which has often been assigned to writhing in the agonies of death. ... As these fossil fishes maintain the attitude of the rigid stage immediately succeeding death, it follows that they were buried before putrefaction had commenced, and apparently in the same bituminous mud, the influx of which had caused their destruction.”

The slory of agony and sudden death and immediate encasing is told by the red sandstone of Scotland; the limestone of Monte Bolca in Lombardy; the bituminous slate of Mansfeld in Thuringia; and also by the coal formation of Saarbrucken on the Saar, “the most celebrated deposits of fossil fishes in Europe”; the calcareous slate of Solenhofen; the blue slate of Glarus; the marlstone of Oensingen in Switzerland and of Aix-in -Provence, to mention only a few of the better-known sites in Europe.

In North America similar strata, “packed full of splendidly preserved fishes,” are found in the black limestone of Ohio and Michigan, in the Green River bed of Arizona, the diatom beds of Lompoc, California, and in many other formations.

In cataclysms of early ages fishes died in agony; and the sand and the gravel of the upthrust sea bottom covered the aquatic graveyards.


21 posted on 11/26/2011 6:53:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: mnehring

/bingo


22 posted on 11/26/2011 6:56:22 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SatinDoll

But suppose they were around for only a couple of thousand years?!?!?


23 posted on 11/26/2011 6:56:41 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: SunkenCiv

A whole 7 minutes!

Thats like from the days of the dinosaurs. lol


24 posted on 11/26/2011 6:57:04 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: ClearCase_guy

>>Now why on earth would so many extinct animals die in some sort of freak drowning event???<<

Clearly they didn’t wait at least an hour after eating...


25 posted on 11/26/2011 7:02:31 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012 -- the man we need at the time we need him)
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To: ClearCase_guy

How many of each animal was on the ark? Where is the T-Rex of today?


26 posted on 11/26/2011 7:05:22 PM PST by Grunthor (pro-illegal alien "conservatives" piss me off.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Nope.

As a Catholic priest, you might like to get into contact with Father Guiseppe Leonardi. His family have been scientists since the 15th century and the family home has the skeleton of a dwarf elephant on the third floor. That fossil is a million years old. He is a specialist in dinosaur tracks, and while studying for the clergy at Rome University, pursued a Ph.D. in paleontology.

Priest to priest, he may be able to better explain the geological study of stratigraphy in terms you could understand, and how it would be nigh impossible for fossils found on mountaintops to exist there after only two thousand years.


27 posted on 11/26/2011 7:08:34 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: Grunthor

Noah didn’t have enough room for all the meat animals to feed a T-Rex. ;-)


28 posted on 11/26/2011 7:11:45 PM PST by Ripliancum (Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you. -Eph. 4:31)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Why? Why indeed! I suppose no university professor would have any idea why.

OTH I read an article about the almost universal prevalence of flood "mythology". Any clue?

I find the following Bible passage touching because God Himself speaks so humbly:

"And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations: I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth. And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud: And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh. And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth." (Genesis 9:12-16)

Is it not humbling to read the Lord Himself say, " . . . that I may remember . . . ". It that not redolent of what Jesus, the Christ, said, "This do in remembrance of me . . . ".

29 posted on 11/26/2011 7:37:04 PM PST by hfr (Liberalism is a moral disorder that leads to mental disorder (actually it's sin))
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To: ClearCase_guy
Now why on earth would so many extinct animals die in some sort of freak drowning event???

Kennedysorus was driving ?

30 posted on 11/26/2011 7:56:54 PM PST by al baby (Is that old windbag still on the air ?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe a flood?


31 posted on 11/26/2011 8:01:57 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Expiate your inner liberal racist guilt, but use your brain: Vote CAIN in 2012!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Thats because there was a great flood... :)


32 posted on 11/26/2011 8:13:14 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: SatinDoll

Yep. Probably a bit of the lemming-syndrome, too.


33 posted on 11/26/2011 8:13:14 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: PapaNew

If this had anything to do with the flood, I wonder why Noah didn’t have any dinosaurs on board?


34 posted on 11/26/2011 8:23:23 PM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: Elsiejay

Trilobites were around for some 300 million years, declining slowly through the Devonian and with the final order disappearing in the Permian extinction. Some tie their decline with jawed and semi jawed fish able to crush their protection. The last order liked shallow water. We still have their relation, the horseshoe crab.

No one thing or time period can be said to have caused their extinction, rather it was likely many things over may millions of years. Scorpions, jellyfish, sea pens, corals, sponges, etc. all have survived from the time their ancestors lived alongside the trilobites.


35 posted on 11/26/2011 8:41:08 PM PST by JimSEA (The future ain't what it used to be.)
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To: Ripliancum

So are you saying that normally BYU doesn’t support the Bible, I can agree with that.


36 posted on 11/26/2011 8:44:18 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: svcw

Actually, Rip is trying to slide an oblique insult about Jim Robinson into the mix. Saundra Duffy and restornu do it, too.


37 posted on 11/26/2011 8:50:47 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: SatinDoll; stuartcr

Thanks!


38 posted on 11/26/2011 8:50:47 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: GeronL

That’s 420 seconds, practically forever.


39 posted on 11/26/2011 8:51:31 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: MHGinTN

Gee, why don’t you ping him? You guys usually do when we complain that this is becoming more and more an anti Mormon site.


40 posted on 11/26/2011 8:53:21 PM PST by Ripliancum (Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you. -Eph. 4:31)
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To: SunkenCiv

lol


41 posted on 11/26/2011 8:56:00 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Elsiejay

lol!!


42 posted on 11/26/2011 8:57:02 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: SeekAndFind

How surprising!

Obviously the intact specimnens had to have died in the flood waters, or else their bodies would have been ravaged by predators.

This had nothing to do with extinction; they were still alive in the middle ages in sufficient numbers to have a huge representation in the written historical record.


43 posted on 11/26/2011 8:59:33 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Ripliancum

I have zero respect for you as you insult the man who owns this conservative website. So I don’t bother pinging someone I have zero respect for. You can now freepmail Saundra and restornu and let them know, also. ... There now, got your victimhood fix this evening?


44 posted on 11/26/2011 9:01:56 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

>> “Now why on earth would so many extinct animals die in some sort of freak drowning event???” <<

.
The aquatic trials for the Dino-Olympics?


45 posted on 11/26/2011 9:01:59 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Ripliancum

You aren’t worth bothering Jim over, got it?


46 posted on 11/26/2011 9:03:33 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN; svcw

“Actually, Rip is trying to slide an oblique insult about Jim Robinson into the mix. Saundra Duffy and restornu do it, too.”

Here’s 2, not exactly oblique though:

CNN: Conservative group to target Romney
Sunday, October 09, 2011 4:57:15 PM · 169 of 175
Zevonismymuse to Jim Robinson

J.R.-I will absolutely not support or vote for Mitt Romney and, in fact, will actively campaign against him.

Z.-You mean you will continue to actively campaign against him. You don’t hate RINOs; you hate Mormons.
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With Sarah out, which conservative candidate has the best shot of knocking out Romney and Obama?
Wednesday, October 05, 2011 7:49:47 PM · 169 of 436

Zevonismymuse to Jim Robinson

Z-Romney is the most conservative candidate in the race. He will win the nomination and go on to win the General Election.
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47 posted on 11/26/2011 9:04:05 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country but Herman Cain loves mine.)
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To: mnehring

>> “Flash floods aren’t ‘freak’. They happen all the time in some areas.” <<

.
And the dinos hear about the floods on their weather radios, and come out for a swim?


48 posted on 11/26/2011 9:04:54 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: SatinDoll

Fail!


49 posted on 11/26/2011 9:06:34 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: MHGinTN

Than why on earth did you bring him up?!!

And you don’t need to bother answering me either as I’m not worth it.


50 posted on 11/26/2011 9:07:18 PM PST by Ripliancum (Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you. -Eph. 4:31)
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