Skip to comments.Scholarly world abuzz over Jewish scrolls find [ Afghanistan ]
Posted on 12/31/2011 10:12:25 AM PST by SunkenCiv
The Jewish scholarly world is abuzz over the discovery of ancient Jewish scrolls in a cave in Afghanistan's Samangan province, Channel 2 reported on Friday.
According to Arab Affairs correspondent Ehud Yeari, if validated the scrolls may be the most significant historical finding in the Jewish world since that of the Cairo Geniza in the 19th century.
"We know today about a couple of findings," Haggai Ben-Shammai, Professor Emeritus of Arabic Language and Literature at Hebrew University was quoted as saying. "In all, in my opinion, there are about 150 fragments. It may be the tip of the iceberg."
The scrolls, which were part of a geniza, a burial site for sacred Jewish texts, date from around 1,000 years ago and are in Arabic, Judeo-Arabic and ancient Persian.
One scroll, whose replica was shown to the cameras, is apparently a dirge written for an important person whose identity has not been determined.
"Where has he gone?" read the text. "His family members are now alone."
Besides the song of mourning other texts said to be found include an unknown history of the ancient kingdom of Judea, passages from the book of Isaiah and some of the works of Rabbi Saadia Gaon, a medieval sage.
In addition, rings with Jewish names like Shmuel Bar Yosef inscribed in Hebrew on them have surfaced.
The area in which the findings were discovered is on the so-called Silk Road, a trade route that connected Eastern Asia with the Middle East and Europe which Jewish merchants often traveled.
Yeari quoted sources as saying the scrolls were first moved to Peshawar province in Pakistan and from there had been sold to antiquities dealers around the world in Geneva, London, Dubai and Jerusalem.
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Better rescue them before the Taliban get a chance to destroy them.
Israel should claim Afghanistan as Jewish land, carve out an Arab state in Tora Bora for the ‘Palestinians’ to move.
The Pushtoo/Pathans of Afghanistan have a tradition that they are descended from the Lost Tribes of Israel, and they also claim to be guarding the original Ark of the Covenant.
This is some cool stuff.
I was thinking the same thing!!! Israel needs to go on the offensive! Get the Truth out!!!!
I thought the Ark was in Ethiopia. (?)
The Ark has been claimed to be in Jordan, Ethiopia, South Africa/Zimbabwe, France, America, the Vatican, England and Ireland, and other places!
If it still exists, it is likely hidden (before the First Exile) somewhere on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, as Jewish tradition records.
Too bad that the early Jews had to bury these manuscripts in Afghanistan. One wonders how many more valuable papers have been destroyed by these uncultured muslims.
Sure. Everyone makes the claim. But we all know that the Arc of the Covenant is safely hidden in a storage shack in a studio back-lot in Hollywood.
Didn’t you see the documentary about that with that whip snapping, hat wearing archeological dude as narrator?
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Wow. Very, very cool.
Where does Jewish tradition record that? I’d love to check it out. The only thing “Jewish” that I know of which mentions it, and I could be woefully ignorant of other sources, is 2 Maccabees, which says that Jeremiah hid it in a cave under the “mountain where Moses went up.”
...Biblical commentator David Kimchi (the Radak) quoting a non-extant Midrash writes on II Divrei HaYamim 35:3, “Our rabbis of blessed memory said, ‘that (Josiah, the last righteous King of Judah) gave instructions to hide the ark so it would not be revealed (and desecrated) at the time of the (approaching) exile At the time when Solomon built the First Temple, he (understood through the Holy Spirit that one day) it was going to be destroyed and therefore he constructed a place to hide the ark in winding, hidden tunnels deep below the surface of the earth. And the stone upon which the ark rested covered the opening of that tunnel. Josiah hid the ark there as it is said, “And he said to the Leviyim that taught all Israel ‘Put the Holy Ark in the House that Solomon King of Israel did build ’” In Bayit Sheini, both the Aron and King Solomon’s fabulous K’ruvim were missing; Kodesh HaKodashim was completely empty...
Thank you much!
What of the Ethiopians that swear they have the Ark?y surmise is since some high ranking folks in Israel have claimed to have seen( in this day) or know where it is, I think we’ll all be surprised when it syurfices. The Midrash might kbnow, so might those Ethiopians unless it’s a false flash they have enough fire power to start a small war oer yon mountains. Josiah indeed was a good King so who know.I do bnelieve the ark orf theZCVovenant exist, it’s up to God( blessed be He) in His timinmg to reveal this again to mankind.
The Ark was known to have been in the First Temple hundreds of years after it was supposed to have been brought to Ethiopia. Ethiopians claim that the one in the Temple was a fake! Does that seem plausible? Or is it more likely that ancient Ethiopians may have had a copy?
An ancient copy would be almost as cool, but no one has produced one of those either.
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The Taliban suggests burning them.
Most likely it rests somewhere in Warehouse 13.
Thanks, links to one of my favorite topics, the lost 10 tribes of Israel. Will have to take time and check them all out.
also may be worth checking out.
Thanks agrace, and Happy New Year.
Thanks jjotto for the interesting stuff about the Ark of the Covenant. My wild guess is (and has been) that the item in the Ethiopian shrine is just a pharaonic-era coffin from Egypt that had been set up as a tourist attraction at Elephantine.
The expert in ancient Persian languages said the scrolls included an ancient copy of the book of Jeremiah; hitherto unknown scholarly works by the medieval sage Rabbi Saadia Gaon; personal poems of loss and mourning and even bookkeeping records that could teach us about everyday life in the community.
The person who wrote it, a Jewish merchant, keeps track of who owed him how much, said Shaked.
He added that the texts show the community may have been Karaite, a sect of Judaism which strictly adheres to the bible rather than the Talmud and other later Jewish texts, and name several early Karaite leaders.
In Afghanistan and northern Pakistan they all say they are the 10 Lost Tribes of Israel and I never knew what they were talking about, said Eisenman, who visited the country in the 60s. If this was part of a Jewish permanent settlement then to my mind it reinforces the mythology that the 10 Lost Tribes were in that part of the world.
The language used in the edicts found in the western part of India is closer to Sanskrit although one bilingual edict in Afghanistan is written in Aramaic and Greek.[At least two of the surviving inscriptions are in Aramaic, apparently there's also a third one in Aramaic that is now buried and unavailable for casual inspection]
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