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World War I era ammunition frozen in a glacier for nearly a century has been found in N. Italy
Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | September 2, 2012 | Alex Gore

Posted on 09/02/2012 7:17:19 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

First World War ammunition frozen in time for nearly a century has been found as glacier melts

First World War ammunition frozen in time for nearly a century has been found as glacier melts, More than 200 pieces of the ammunition were revealed at an altitude of 3,200 metres by a melting glacier on the Ago de Nardis peak in Trentino.

WWI ammunition frozen in time for nearly a century has been discovered in northern Italy.

More than 200 pieces of the ammunition were revealed at an altitude of 3,200 metres by a melting glacier on the Ago de Nardis peak in Trentino.

The 85-100mm caliber explosives weighed between seven and 10 kilos and explosives experts have been to the site to safely dispose of the weaponry.

The once-perennial glacier began partially melted during a recent heat wave, allowing the Finance Police Alpine rescue unit - operating in the area between Pinzolo and Madonna di Campiglio - to catch sight of the brownish metal points emerging from the ice.

The ammunition had been spread over a 100-square-metre area during a series of battles fought between the armies of Austria-Hungary and Italy between 1915 and 1918.

First World War ammunition frozen in time for nearly a century has been found as glacier melts, More than 200 pieces of the ammunition were revealed at an altitude of 3,200 metres by a melting glacier on the Ago de Nardis peak in Trentino.

First World War ammunition frozen in time for nearly a century has been found as glacier melts, More than 200 pieces of the ammunition were revealed at an altitude of 3,200 metres by a melting glacier on the Ago de Nardis peak in Trentino.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans; Outdoors; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; battlefield; eod; glacier; godsgravesglyphs; gunsandammo; italy; lostandfound; modernhistory; thegreatwar; warfare; worldwar1; worldwarone
First World War ammunition frozen in time for nearly a century has been found as glacier melts, More than 200 pieces of the ammunition were revealed at an altitude of 3,200 metres by a melting glacier on the Ago de Nardis peak in Trentino.

Frozen in time: The ammunition was discovered as a glacier melted in Trentino

First World War ammunition frozen in time for nearly a century has been found as glacier melts, More than 200 pieces of the ammunition were revealed at an altitude of 3,200 metres by a melting glacier on the Ago de Nardis peak in Trentino.

Conflict: The ammunition was spread over a 100-square-metre area between 1915 and 1918

1 posted on 09/02/2012 7:17:23 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
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To: DogByte6RER
Hmm. Guess there wasn't a glacier there during the war, then. Must have been the big 1915 global warming crisis allowed troops up there to deposit ammo supplies.
2 posted on 09/02/2012 7:24:41 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: DogByte6RER

There has to be a line about France surrendering somewhere in this one...


3 posted on 09/02/2012 7:25:59 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: DogByte6RER

A whole bunch of high explosive shells with the unstable fuses corroded in place.

Someone is going to really earn their pay over the next few weeks...


4 posted on 09/02/2012 7:26:59 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1322 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: DogByte6RER

Looks like remnants of the wood shipping boxes scattered around. Old stuff but likely still deadly.


5 posted on 09/02/2012 7:27:48 PM PDT by wrench
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To: DogByte6RER

It`sa bigga non-nuclear mountain meltdowna I tell you
Pisan!


6 posted on 09/02/2012 7:29:46 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (Glaciers in Italy? who knew?! - where?? who knew?)
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To: DogByte6RER

The most amazing part of this article is that the Italians actually have a unit called “the Finance Police Alpine rescue unit.”

Who would the Financial Police be rescuing normally? Bankers who get stuck on a ski lift?


7 posted on 09/02/2012 7:31:37 PM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: Leaning Right

Rescuing the vacationing bankers’ wallets no doubt ...


8 posted on 09/02/2012 7:34:06 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

Walt Disney was an ambulance driver in this arena....if they find a leather jacket with an illustration on the back, someone is gonna be rich....


9 posted on 09/02/2012 7:35:51 PM PDT by coolbreeze (giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teen-age boys.)
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To: DogByte6RER
Holy crap!

Recently watched a BBC program that featured the exhumation of a Spitfire from a peat bog in Donegal, Ireland. The story of the American pilot that parachuted from the plane is extraordinary in itself, but what is even more extraordinary, is the fact that the Browning machine guns onboard were discovered intact. They were cleaned and fired after 70 years buried in the bog. There was air still in one of the plane's tires, and fuel was running out of the engine as it was lifted out of the ground. The pilot's leather flying cap was still intact and pliable, and they found the service manual intact, and still readable. For anyone who is interested, here's a link to the story:

Spitfire Redux

10 posted on 09/02/2012 7:36:30 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: DogByte6RER

Of course if some 7.62x54R ever melts out of a glacier you can bet it’ll be on sale for $70/ 880 rds within and week (and will still work just fine) :)


11 posted on 09/02/2012 7:40:13 PM PDT by verum ago (Be a bastard, and Karma'll be a bitch.)
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To: null and void
lay a line of Det-Cord over it and do it in place???
12 posted on 09/02/2012 7:40:30 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: mass55th
One never knows what might be found in an Irish bog
13 posted on 09/02/2012 7:43:05 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Romney was right about the Olympics, but neither the Brits or the Dems will admit it.)
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To: Leaning Right

I think Financial Police are more like Customs.

There’s been a lot of gold etc. being smuggled into Switzerland through the Italian Alps.


14 posted on 09/02/2012 7:56:41 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1322 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: null and void

Just hire the criminals on death row to pick it all up.


15 posted on 09/02/2012 7:57:52 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Michael.SF.

They’ve made some remarkable finds in bogs over the years. Makes you wonder just how much more history is yet to be found.


16 posted on 09/02/2012 7:58:06 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: DogByte6RER

Oh, thank you global warming!

/sarcasm about morons who believe in “science”


17 posted on 09/02/2012 8:00:51 PM PDT by SAR
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To: Chode
lay a line of Det-Cord over it and do it in place???

That's what I'd do, but what do us armatures know?

18 posted on 09/02/2012 8:02:20 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1322 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: MrEdd

More likely about how Italians always changing minds and switching sides like cowards.


19 posted on 09/02/2012 8:05:06 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: DogByte6RER; Windflier

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks DogByte6RER.

Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


20 posted on 09/02/2012 8:08:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
You should read about this Italian vs Austro-Hungarian battles like Izonso. I think there were like 12 major assaults along the river. The Italian army was crazy brave unbelievably so, but as poorly led as they were crazy brave. Eventually they reached the breaking point and broke when the Germans applied the first use of Stosstruppen tactics. ( A young Lt Rommel was involved!). The Italian army cracked and ran, Hemingway's novel covers this retreat.
21 posted on 09/02/2012 8:20:19 PM PDT by Reily
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To: DogByte6RER

The Italians and Austro-Hungarians fought there in one of the nastiest fronts of the war, the 12 Battles of the Isonzo, with a total of 1.2 million casualties.

Italy had used up so many men in WWI that it still hadn’t recovered by WWII. With a population of about 35 million, they had lost about 1.25 million people, with another million military wounded.


22 posted on 09/02/2012 8:25:36 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Reily

It was brutal. My wife’s grandfather was there, was a POW after Caporetto. Not only were the battles absolute meat grinders, but the Italian army’s discipline was right out of Roman times. The practice of decimation was common. If a unit failed in combat, one soldier per hundred was selected randomly for execution to punish the unit.


23 posted on 09/02/2012 9:09:05 PM PDT by gusty
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Your statement just makes you look stupid and ignorant. If you know how to read, try reading a history book. It will do you some good. Try the ones without a lot of pictures if you are capable. I bet a keyboard commando like yourself would of been something along the Isonzo River or assaulting up a sheer cliff in the Alps.


24 posted on 09/02/2012 9:35:21 PM PDT by gusty
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

These were military deaths, all concentrated within a single generation, males in their twenties.


25 posted on 09/02/2012 9:38:03 PM PDT by gusty
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To: null and void

Looks like there’s nothing to blow up but dirt. Just sit back and lob a few mortars in.


26 posted on 09/02/2012 10:31:38 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: null and void
at least we think alike...
27 posted on 09/03/2012 8:24:34 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: hinckley buzzard

While I’m a global warming skeptic too, it is true that the glaciers of the Alps have shrunk considerably over the last 100 years or so. (I think this is one big reason Europe is so believing of global warming—as they (think) they see it in the Alps very clearly (even as glaciers in other parts of the world grow...). Climate change of course is normal...and I don’t think we know the size of the glaciers in the Alps during the medieval warming period, ca. AD 1000.

I believe this ammo was left on TOP of the glacier in 1915, and was subsequently covered up, and frozen into it—only now being revealed as the end of the glacier melts and recedes. Point being the ammo wasn’t gathered up by the glacier-growing flowing down the valley.

While few remember it now (as these didn’t involve Americans, French or English), some very fierce battles of WWI occurred high-up in the Alps...


28 posted on 09/03/2012 10:30:47 AM PDT by AnalogReigns (reality is analog, not digital...)
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To: gusty

Boy are you nasty. Seems you are the “keyboard commando”. Geesh.

It’s true: they keep changing sides.


29 posted on 09/03/2012 6:33:15 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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