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CSIC researchers find the exact spot where Julius Caesar was stabbed
EurekAlert! ^ | Wednesday, October 10, 2012 | CSIC Comunicación

Posted on 10/10/2012 8:46:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

A concrete structure of three meters wide and over two meters high, placed by order of Augustus (adoptive son and successor of Julius Caesar) to condemn the assassination of his father, has given the key to the scientists. This finding confirms that the General was stabbed right at the bottom of the Curia of Pompey while he was presiding, sitting on a chair, over a meeting of the Senate. Currently, the remains of this building are located in the archaeological area of Torre Argentina, right in the historic centre of the Roman capital...

Classical sources refer to the closure (years after the murder) of the Curia, a place that would become a chapel-memory. CSIC researcher explains: "We know for sure that the place where Julius Caesar presided over that session of the Senate, and where he fell stabbed, was closed with a rectangular structure organized under four walls delimiting a Roman concrete filling. However, we don't know if this closure also involved that the building ceased to be totally accessible".

Spaces of the assassination of Caesar

In Torre Argentina, in addition to the Curia of Pompey, researchers have started to study the remains of the Portico of the Hundred Columns (Hecatostylon). The aim is to identify what connecting links can be established between archaeology, art history, and cinema in these spaces of the death of Julius Caesar. Monterroso adds: "We also aim to better understand that sense of closure and dismal place described in classical texts".

The two buildings are part of the monumental complex (about 54.000 square meters) that Pompey the Great, one of the greatest military in the history of Rome, built in the capital to commemorate his military successes in the East around the year 55 BC.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: csic; godsgravesglyphs; juliuscaesar; romanempire; thecuria
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To: SunkenCiv

Looks just like Detroit!


21 posted on 10/10/2012 10:26:29 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: RetSignman

ANTONY
Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears;
I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.
The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones;
So let it be with Caesar. The noble Brutus
Hath told you Caesar was ambitious:
If it were so, it was a grievous fault,
And grievously hath Caesar answer’d it.
Here, under leave of Brutus and the rest—
For Brutus is an honourable man;
So are they all, all honourable men—
Come I to speak in Caesar’s funeral.
He was my friend, faithful and just to me:
But Brutus says he was ambitious;
And Brutus is an honourable man.
He hath brought many captives home to Rome
Whose ransoms did the general coffers fill:
Did this in Caesar seem ambitious?
When that the poor have cried, Caesar hath wept:
Ambition should be made of sterner stuff:
Yet Brutus says he was ambitious;
And Brutus is an honourable man.
You all did see that on the Lupercal
I thrice presented him a kingly crown,
Which he did thrice refuse: was this ambition?
Yet Brutus says he was ambitious;
And, sure, he is an honourable man.
I speak not to disprove what Brutus spoke,
But here I am to speak what I do know.
You all did love him once, not without cause:
What cause withholds you then, to mourn for him?
O judgment! thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason. Bear with me;
My heart is in the coffin there with Caesar,
And I must pause till it come back to me.

At the end of the day, truly, Brutus WAS an honorable man.


22 posted on 10/10/2012 10:31:32 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.")
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To: bd476

It was a rather feeble attempt at a joke.

:-\


23 posted on 10/10/2012 10:38:48 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.)
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To: bd476

I’m not giving up my day job.

;D


24 posted on 10/10/2012 10:40:12 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.)
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To: SunkenCiv
I thought Julius Seizure was just a wine about a stabbing pain and death on a Gallo's.
25 posted on 10/10/2012 10:41:40 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Amo Roma...


26 posted on 10/10/2012 11:19:17 PM PDT by stormer
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To: Salamander

OH darn it, then I was right in laughing out loud.
And your post was not feeble in the least. So little is humorous these days,
so many worries about our great Nation. Your post made me laugh.
Then I second guessed it, read more in the thread and realized,
that is, thought, that I was laughing inappropriately. Just argh, lol.

Long ago there was a billboard advertising Lay’s potato chips.
It cracked me up just like your post.

The billboard portrayed two men dressed in ancient Roman garments, one obviously
portraying Julius Caesar.

There were just two words on the billboard:

Et one, Brutus?


27 posted on 10/10/2012 11:22:37 PM PDT by bd476
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To: bd476

LOL...good billboard.

I have to keep laughing because if I don’t, I’m afraid I might start screaming.

:)


28 posted on 10/10/2012 11:32:03 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.)
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To: Salamander
Just found this one with Bert Lahr. It's slightly
different than the one I mentioned above.



Now I wonder if there were different
versions made for different regions.


29 posted on 10/10/2012 11:49:03 PM PDT by bd476
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To: Salamander
Salamander wrote: "LOL...good billboard. I have to keep laughing because if I don’t, I’m afraid I might start screaming. :)"

That's exactly how I feel.



30 posted on 10/10/2012 11:55:02 PM PDT by bd476
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To: SunkenCiv

Pretty cool.


31 posted on 10/10/2012 11:59:50 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: bd476

That’s two words in Biden Math, maybe...


32 posted on 10/11/2012 1:38:25 AM PDT by rfp1234
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To: rfp1234
rfp1234 wrote: "That’s two words in Biden Math, maybe..."

Ha ha, touché, Bruté.
On the other hand, there actually
were just two words and one name.

33 posted on 10/11/2012 2:04:54 AM PDT by bd476
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To: JRandomFreeper

I thought it took place in Rome?


34 posted on 10/11/2012 3:50:12 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Northern Yankee; JRandomFreeper
Mean't to say:

"I thought he was stabbed in Rome."

Et Tu Brutus? What's for lunch?

Morning Johnny!

35 posted on 10/11/2012 3:53:44 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: JRandomFreeper; SunkenCiv
I always understood he was stabbed in his forum.

Beats being shot in the fracas.

*Redd Foxx could have explained it... /g

*(Man, am I feeling old these days...)

36 posted on 10/11/2012 4:12:12 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

BRUTUS

Be patient till the last.
Romans, countrymen, and lovers! hear me for my
cause, and be silent, that you may hear: believe me
for mine honour, and have respect to mine honour, that
you may believe: censure me in your wisdom, and
awake your senses, that you may the better judge.
If there be any in this assembly, any dear friend of
Caesar’s, to him I say, that Brutus’ love to Caesar
was no less than his. If then that friend demand
why Brutus rose against Caesar, this is my answer:
—Not that I loved Caesar less, but that I loved
Rome more. Had you rather Caesar were living and
die all slaves, than that Caesar were dead, to live
all free men? As Caesar loved me, I weep for him;
as he was fortunate, I rejoice at it; as he was
valiant, I honour him: but, as he was ambitious, I
slew him. There is tears for his love; joy for his
fortune; honour for his valour; and death for his
ambition. Who is here so base that would be a
bondman? If any, speak; for him have I offended.
Who is here so rude that would not be a Roman? If
any, speak; for him have I offended. Who is here so
vile that will not love his country? If any, speak;
for him have I offended. I pause for a reply.

All

None, Brutus, none.

BRUTUS

Then none have I offended. I have done no more to
Caesar than you shall do to Brutus. The question of
his death is enrolled in the Capitol; his glory not
extenuated, wherein he was worthy, nor his offences
enforced, for which he suffered death.

Enter ANTONY and others, with CAESAR’s body
Here comes his body, mourned by Mark Antony: who,
though he had no hand in his death, shall receive
the benefit of his dying, a place in the
commonwealth; as which of you shall not? With this
I depart,—that, as I slew my best lover for the
good of Rome, I have the same dagger for myself,
when it shall please my country to need my death.

All

Live, Brutus! live, live!


37 posted on 10/11/2012 6:12:16 AM PDT by Prospero
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To: SunkenCiv

Brutus was an honorable man. J. Caeasar began the consolidation of power in Rome and the destruction of the Roman Republic:He succeeded.

Brutus is my guy, not J. Caesar, Maximum Leader.


38 posted on 10/11/2012 6:24:13 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: JRandomFreeper

I always thought he was stabbed on the steps to the Temple Julia.


40 posted on 10/11/2012 7:41:13 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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