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We, Too, Are Violent Animals
Wall Street Journal ^ | January 4, 2013 | Jane Goodall

Posted on 01/05/2013 8:29:49 AM PST by Twotone

Where does human savagery come from? The animal behaviorist Marc Bekoff, writing in Psychology Today after last month's awful events in Newtown, Conn., echoed a common view: It can't possibly come from nature or evolution. Harsh aggression, he wrote, is "extremely rare" in nonhuman animals, while violence is merely an odd feature of our own species, produced by a few wicked people. If only we could "rewild our hearts," he concluded, we might harness our "inborn goodness and optimism" and thereby return to our "nice, kind, compassionate, empathic" original selves.

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TOPICS: Pets/Animals; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: apes; godsgravesglyphs; violence
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To: Twotone

Remember the scene in War of the Worlds “We’ll make friends. We’ll wave a white flag. Everyone knows what that means!”
Cut to: dust in shape of three guys on ground.

Remember the leftie who wanted to make friends with the grizzly bears? Cut to: dead vegan.


21 posted on 01/05/2013 9:44:43 AM PST by Rytas
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To: wastedyears
I’m guessing Marc Bekoff is either a vegetarian or a vegan, and doesn’t understand what primitive man did to get to the top of the food chain.

I suspect you are right. He's a biologist, PETA type, who thinks we can learn to be more peaceful by imitating animals.

22 posted on 01/05/2013 9:52:19 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Twotone
Cat gets caught entering prison with saws and cell phone
23 posted on 01/05/2013 9:54:30 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Twotone

do animals abort their own?

do animals choose to protest when game runs low?

do animals poop in the woods? Do philosophers and activists?

sometimes they step in each others..

is that mean or insulting of others.. or just life?


24 posted on 01/05/2013 10:19:01 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: JRandomFreeper


Psst! George! F this grass stuff!
I think I smell a metrosexual!!

25 posted on 01/05/2013 10:46:46 AM PST by djf (Conservative values help the poor. Liberal values help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: djf
LOL!

/johnny

26 posted on 01/05/2013 11:06:20 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

One of my favorite bear pics. The one on the right is awesome!

But you can tell by the focus that whoever took that pic got one heck of a lot closer to them than I ever would!

Maybe it was that nature boy dude who got et alive by a Kodiak a few years back...


27 posted on 01/05/2013 11:11:28 AM PST by djf (Conservative values help the poor. Liberal values help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: Twotone

Evidently he has never watched the videos of Orcas playing with their food (baby seals!), or of Flipper raping Flippette.


28 posted on 01/05/2013 11:16:07 AM PST by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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To: cripplecreek
Chimpanzee ambush and warfare in the wild.

My little dogs slept through the video but when the chimps started getting vocal my big ones went on full alert.

Looked like they wanted to whup some monkey butt!

29 posted on 01/05/2013 11:19:43 AM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. — Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: djf
Maybe it was that nature boy dude who got et alive by a Kodiak a few years back...

Nature has a way of correcting stupidity.

/johnny

30 posted on 01/05/2013 11:24:46 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Kitteh iz BUSTID!!


31 posted on 01/05/2013 11:25:22 AM PST by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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To: Twotone

This person has been watching too many Disney movies. Don’t they know that tomcats will kill their kittens. I watched Shrikes (birds) kill baby ducks. Dogs will attack other dogs not to mention they will kill cats and children. Rutting bucks will fightanother buck till one or both are dead. sheessshhhhh!


32 posted on 01/05/2013 11:31:10 AM PST by Ditter
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To: cripplecreek

Was the Alpha chimp’s name “Uriah”, by any chance?


33 posted on 01/05/2013 12:31:37 PM PST by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: BwanaNdege

Either way, I would guess he was neither a Hittite nor a hitter.

Most likely the hittee.


34 posted on 01/05/2013 12:33:20 PM PST by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: Twotone
None of this is rocket science, really.

Homo sapiens are the dominant predator on a planet overrun with predators.

We have come far from our animal origins. We still have a very long way to go.

35 posted on 01/05/2013 1:30:33 PM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Twotone; blam

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks Twotone. Jane Goodall write:
Calm and cooperative behavior indeed predominates in most species, but the idea that human aggression is qualitatively different from that of every other species is wrong.
Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


36 posted on 01/05/2013 4:57:31 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Eight six seven, five three oh nine.)
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To: djf
First possum that wanders by and he’d dump a load way bigger than the scat piles I see...

Soon after I moved into my current house (in the suburbs, not the country), I was unpacking some boxes in the carport. I opened up one of them, and the face of a devil from hell snarled up at me.

I didn't "drop a load", but it was a near thing. I made a leap back that John Carter couldn't have made on Barsoom.

Finally, I grabbed a shovel and chased the possum away. It went, and it didn't come back. But it left with its dignity pretty much intact, while I had totally lost mine

37 posted on 01/05/2013 6:42:35 PM PST by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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To: chesley

Lol!

We have tons of them around here, and usually, they are quite timid. But once in a while, they will cop an attitude.

I remember coming home one night after dark and one was in the road in front of me, just going round in circles.

I pulled up alongside it, opened my door, and yelled “Go away! or something, the little chit looks up at me and hisses, then runs back in front of my car and keeps going in circles!

I was ready to run him over just outa spite, but after about the third circle, he headed off the shoulder into the woods.

You might be able to keep them as pets, but I tend to think they are just too dam stupid...


38 posted on 01/05/2013 6:54:31 PM PST by djf (Conservative values help the poor. Liberal values help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: Twotone

I daresay that the libs are wrong- man is LESS cruel than others in the animal kingdom.


39 posted on 01/06/2013 1:03:19 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: SunkenCiv; Twotone
They myth of peaceful mankind in the state of nature pops up once more.


40 posted on 01/09/2013 2:56:38 PM PST by colorado tanker
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