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The First Vikings
Archaeology Magazine ^ | Monday, June 10, 2013 | Andrew Curry

Posted on 06/18/2013 7:31:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

According to historians, the Viking Age began on June 8, A.D. 793, at an island monastery off the coast of northern England. A contemporary chronicle recorded the moment with a brief entry: "The ravages of heathen men miserably destroyed God’s church on Lindisfarne, with plunder and slaughter." ...In the centuries that followed, the Vikings' vessels carried them deep into Russia and as far south as Constantinople, Sicily, and possibly even North Africa. They organized flotillas capable of carrying warriors across vast distances, and terrorized the English, Irish, and French coasts with lightning-fast raids. Exploratory voyages to the west took them all the way to North America.

...our understanding of what led up to that June day on Lindisfarne is surprisingly shaky. A recent discovery on a remote Baltic island is beginning to change that. Two ships filled with slain warriors uncovered on the Estonian island of Saaremaa may help archaeologists and historians understand how the Vikings' warships evolved from short-range, rowed craft to sailing ships; where the first warriors came from; and how their battle tactics developed. "We all agree these burials are Scandinavian in origin," says Marge Konsa, an archaeologist at the University of Tartu. "This is our first taste of the Viking era."

Between them, the two boats contain the remains of dozens of men. Seven lay haphazardly in the smaller of the two boats, which was found first. Nearby, in the larger vessel, 33 men were buried in a neat pile, stacked like wood, together with their weapons and animals. The site seems to be a hastily arranged mass grave, the final resting place for Scandinavian warriors killed in an ill-fated raid on Saaremaa, or perhaps waylaid on a remote beach by rivals.

(Excerpt) Read more at archaeology.org ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: estonia; godsgravesglyphs; thevikings

subtitled, "Two remarkable ships may show that the Viking storm was brewing long before their assault on England and the continent".
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The First Vikings

1 posted on 06/18/2013 7:31:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


2 posted on 06/18/2013 7:32:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I think that the first Vikings were Tarkenton and Tinglehoff.

;-)


3 posted on 06/18/2013 7:34:21 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Support Free Republic!)
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To: SunkenCiv

4 posted on 06/18/2013 7:39:00 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: SunkenCiv
According to historians, the Viking Age began on June 8, A.D. 793

At 10:38 in the morning. ;-)

5 posted on 06/18/2013 7:40:57 PM PDT by doc1019 (There is absolutely no difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion.)
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To: doc1019

Apparently, early on anyway, there were “no lands to the west.”


6 posted on 06/18/2013 7:46:46 PM PDT by Goldsborough
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To: doc1019

Who cares? Asterix and Obelix taught them the meaning of fear!

Fear gave them wings!


7 posted on 06/18/2013 7:47:52 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: SunkenCiv; Grizzled Bear
I could post a ton of viking/pagan/folk metal.
8 posted on 06/18/2013 7:50:19 PM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: SunkenCiv

If they find a lot of beer bottles and shotgun shells, then it was probably an old family reunion of my family. Usually, there’s more than 40 dead, but they might have been friendlier back then.


9 posted on 06/18/2013 7:56:40 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: doc1019

June 8th, Julian or Gregorian?


10 posted on 06/18/2013 8:13:50 PM PDT by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: donmeaker
Who cares? Asterix and Obelix taught them the meaning of fear!

Actually it was the least warlike of the Gaulish villagers, the bard Cacofonix, who managed to do that.

11 posted on 06/18/2013 8:14:24 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("New Yorks Finest" are now "The Untouchables")
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To: Boiler Plate

10:38, local or GMT?


12 posted on 06/18/2013 8:16:43 PM PDT by doc1019 (There is absolutely no difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Fran Tarkenton, of course.

13 posted on 06/18/2013 8:19:15 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SunkenCiv; Revolting cat!
Did they find their hornrimmed glasses?


14 posted on 06/18/2013 8:19:52 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: doc1019
10:38, local or GMT?

Lindisfarne is less than 2° West of Greenwich, the solar time difference is about 6½ minutes. Clocks back then weren't that good. GMT close enough.

15 posted on 06/18/2013 8:32:12 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("New Yorks Finest" are now "The Untouchables")
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To: Oztrich Boy

Thanks, that clears that up for me. ;-)


16 posted on 06/18/2013 8:33:38 PM PDT by doc1019 (There is absolutely no difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Intersting find.

Reminds of the Far Side cartoon with a couple of Viking ships high & dry on the beach and a village pludered & burning in the back ground. The warrior Vikings were gathered around their boats and one folorn looking Viking. The caption was, Sven, the one who was in charge of the tide book, has something to say to all of us.


17 posted on 06/18/2013 8:35:17 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Cold Heart

I bet he said they burned their own village.


18 posted on 06/18/2013 8:38:06 PM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks for posting.


19 posted on 06/18/2013 8:39:34 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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20 posted on 06/18/2013 8:41:14 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: SunkenCiv
Rumor has it, they may have made it as far as Texas.


21 posted on 06/18/2013 8:43:50 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: SunkenCiv

Once again I must set the record straight. The Vikings were only farmers out on a milk run. All this about raping and pillaging was just jealous talk from a bunch of jealous French girls!


22 posted on 06/18/2013 8:59:38 PM PDT by patriotUSA (Thank you Jesus.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The higher ranking of the carefully interred warriors of
Salme 2 were buried with their impressive double-
edged iron swords lying neatly between them.
23 posted on 06/18/2013 9:33:42 PM PDT by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: SunkenCiv

The first true vikings!

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51K8KEHGS1L._SY300_.jpg


24 posted on 06/18/2013 10:15:06 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3UhN6mTU4k

Don’t listen to this if you have sensitive ears.


25 posted on 06/18/2013 10:37:33 PM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Bttt


26 posted on 06/18/2013 10:55:04 PM PDT by lp boonie (Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment)
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To: shhrubbery!; Pete from Shawnee Mission

Thanks. These appear to be the remains of those who fell in battle, buried there by the victorious Viking survivors, rather than the victorious locals as the article said.


27 posted on 06/18/2013 11:58:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: wastedyears

No, no, no, don’t listen to THIS if you have sensitive ears:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPRt6Tt6RyM

Or for even more of a Viking feel to it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARnBgW5XgSo


28 posted on 06/19/2013 4:44:31 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: SunkenCiv

Wow! What a fascinating find.

The piece is long but so well-written that I am glad I took the time to read the entire thing.


29 posted on 06/19/2013 6:13:26 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: wastedyears

No,thanks.


30 posted on 06/19/2013 6:14:27 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: SunkenCiv

My respect for the patience of archaeologists was renewed yet again as I read of the work of “reconstructing” the boats based on the soil stains and the bits of metal.


31 posted on 06/19/2013 6:18:37 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: SunkenCiv

I doubt if we ever really figure out the Vikings. very cool post, thanks.


32 posted on 06/19/2013 7:27:34 AM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Wow! Interesting diary of the site with a lot of forensic information, but no resolution of the actual history of the altercation and precisely who died.

I just love this stuff! Thank you for the post and ping, Mr. Civilizations. [smiles]


33 posted on 06/19/2013 11:17:48 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: shhrubbery!

The guy on the left...is that Indiana Jones’ hat covering his groin?


34 posted on 06/19/2013 11:33:03 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: SunkenCiv
These appear to be the remains of those who fell in battle, buried there by the victorious Viking survivors, rather than the victorious locals as the article said.

I agree. If the locals had defeated the Vikings in battle, they would not have buried the raiders with this care, if they would have buried them at all.

Thanks for posting, this is a fascinating find. It appears Vikings were on the move well before the dates we have documented in the British Isles and Russia.

35 posted on 06/19/2013 12:56:33 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: JoeProBono

Is that the Rio Grande River?


36 posted on 06/19/2013 12:57:55 PM PDT by ForAmerica (Texas Conservative Christian Black Man!)
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To: ForAmerica

37 posted on 06/19/2013 1:10:37 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: JoeProBono

Lol, I was just kidding...


38 posted on 06/19/2013 1:37:48 PM PDT by ForAmerica (Texas Conservative Christian Black Man!)
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To: SunkenCiv
The Vikings collaborated with the saracen pirates and raiders in the Mediterranean. Much of what both groups were about was the taking of slaves. The saracens took their slaves directly to the homeland. The Vikings took them down into Russia where they sold them to the moslems. Some Christians and Pagans in Europe found it easier on themselves and profitable to fight and capture Slavs who were entering Europe from from the East and sell them to both Vikings and Moslems hence the word "slav e".

http://www.libertylawsite.org/book-review/when-the-spirits-collided-islam-and-christianity-in-the-course-of-western-civilization/

http://www.amazon.com/Mohammed-Charlemagne-Revisited-History-Controversy/dp/0578094185

39 posted on 06/19/2013 3:55:23 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economiws In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: SunkenCiv

The Vikings go back further than the 700’s.

http://www.amazon.com/Baltic-Origins-Homers-Epic-Tales/dp/1594770522/ref=la_B001JP8MEG_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1371745647&sr=1-1


40 posted on 06/20/2013 9:27:41 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Oztrich Boy

Bingo! You get the prize!


41 posted on 06/20/2013 12:55:05 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

That’s a nice story, but it’s based on nothing, whereas the Iliad is rooted in a real war that’s been substantiated by archaeology; the Odyssey on the other hand, was probably by a different author, maybe Samuel Butler’s woman.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/aoto/
http://archive.org/details/authoressofodyss00butlrich
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1490367/replies?c=104
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1659530/posts


42 posted on 06/20/2013 6:59:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: donmeaker
Voila!!! Tu as PEUR!!!
43 posted on 06/20/2013 7:02:30 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Actually it was the least warlike of the Gaulish villagers, the bard Cacofonix, who managed to do that.

In the French language version, his name was Assurancetourix.

44 posted on 06/20/2013 7:03:31 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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