Skip to comments.Ancient Roman Military Camp Unearthed in Eastern Germany
Posted on 05/18/2014 6:16:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
Archaeologists have confirmed the presence of a long-lost Roman military camp deep in eastern Germany. The 18-hectare site, found near the town of Hachelbich in Thuringia, would have sheltered a Roman legion of up to 5000 troops. Its location in a broad valley with few impediments suggests it was a stopover on the way to invade territory further east...
The Hachelbich site, along with a battlefield near Hannover uncovered in 2008, show... that the Romans were willing to cross their frontier when it suited their political or military needs.
The encampment was discovered in 2010, during routine excavations as part of a road-building project...
On the camps northern edge, the soldiers built a gate protected by another trench that projected out past the perimeter...
Additional evidence of an ancient encampment includes traces of eight makeshift bread ovens not far from the camp perimeter and a handful of artifacts, including four nails from the bottom of Roman boots, a piece of horse tackle, and part of a scabbard. The style of these artifactsand a few radiocarbon datesplace the camp somewhere in the first 2 centuries C.E., too broad a range to be linked to a known specific event in Roman history...
Now we have the first camp thats clearly more than a day trip from the edge of the empire, he says. Its no isolated frontier outpost, but something that clearly points to the Elbe River, hundreds of kilometers deep in German territory.
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Ancient camp. Boot nails and other objects were found at the Hachelbich site, along with soil marks where Roman soldiers once dug a trench to defend their temporary camp. TLDA
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This makes me say about the Romans what De Gaulle said after Stalingrad. “What a great people!” The Russians? “No, the Germans. They got so far!”
Drang nach Osten — Latin-style!
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Posted on 9/15/2010 11:16:18 PM by SunkenCiv
I wholeheartedly agree, although I edited out the what-a-surprise stuff from the text. :’)
Isn’t that is one of those places you take while playing Rome Total War and it doesn’t generate any income?
Game programmers don’t know history? Wow, who knew? :’)
This encampment was simply a staging area for a planned Roman invasion of Russia!
well they did mine silver in the Ore Mts and maybe uranium if there was a market for it (dyes from its oxides, not a Roman Bomb)..
Was this after the Teutoberg Forest disaster?
"Now write that 100 times or I'll cut your ----- off."
You really have to have studied at least one heavily declined language to appreciate that scene fully. I have to add that the Slavic languages make Greek or Latin look easy.
The Romans' ability to "manage" the Germans already began to break down during the reign of Marcus Aureleus at the end of the second century as attacks on the Empire by the Persians drained both money and troops from the Rhine and Danube frontiers.
As civil wars and wars with Sassanid Persia ravaged the Empire in the third century, this system began to break down completely and large barbarian raids deep into the Empire took place, which resulted in huge "punishment" raids into Germany when the distracted Romans had the opportunity.
Marcus Aurelius spent much of his time on the Danube frontier fighting the Marcomanni and Quadi--he died either in Vindobona (modern Vienna) or at another place on the Danube. His successor Commodus quickly ended the war--sort of the Roman counterpart to Obama being eager to end Bush's war in Iraq regardless of the consequences.
The fact that both campaigns ended indecisively also did not bode well for the Romans. Only a little more than sixty years before Trajan was able to mop the floor with the Persians, and (with difficulty) to acquire Dacia.
In retrospect it appears Hadrian's decision to call off Trajan's Persian campaign and build enormous and costly frontier fortifications may have been a grave mistake.
When the “History Channel” gets involved, all kinds of rubbish is tossed around. Let’s see them do a follow up on THIS one and apologize.
I thought that the United States was at fault for everything. obama even went on an apology tour.
Now I know it was those Italians.
Hadrian did what he did because he was only interested in boy’s anuses. Regardless, considering what turmoil the people of the Roman Empire were put through, it was obviously cohesive and durable; from the death of Hadrian to the fall of Rome was nearly three centuries. And the eastern capital didn’t fall for another millennium.
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He was reputed an able commander in the Dacian campaign by Trajan and was well regarded by his soldiers, who seem to have respected him a great deal despite their general disdain for buggery.
I simply meant that taking a great offensive fighting force like the Roman army and turning it into a mainly defensive force had unforeseen consequences that are already visible in the Column of Marcus Aurelius: my impression is you can see the Roman troops doing most of the defensive engineering work, while non-Roman auxiliaries are doing a lot of the fighting.
I agree with you. This is pretty darn far in the East, especially if it points to an expedition whose goal was even farther east.
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