Posted on 08/14/2015 8:46:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
But experts say the five that he identified in Bosnia-Herzegovina are natural hills.
Despite his many critics, maverick archaeologist Sam Osmanagich stands by his claims that he has uncovered not one, but five structures which he says are pyramids in Visoko in Bosnia-Herzegovina.
Dr Osmanagich, who earned his doctorate on the history of civilisations at the University of Sarajevo in 2008, was in Singapore recently for a conference, where he spoke about his work on pyramids.
The 55-year-old claims that he has discovered the "biggest complex of pyramidal structures in the world" comprising five pyramids, all connected by underground tunnels.
The largest of these, he says, is the Pyramid of the Sun, which is more than 220m high.
If his claims are true, this would make the pyramid taller and possibly bigger than the 147m-tall Great Pyramid built by Pharaoh Khufu in Giza, Egypt, now recognised as the largest in the world.
On his work, Dr Osmanagich says: "You have not only the first pyramids in Europe, but also the biggest on the planet. This is shocking to many archaeologists as most people like to keep the status quo when you come up with new and progressive ideas."
About a decade ago, he set up a non-profit organisation called Archaeological Park: Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun Foundation to carry out excavations at the site in Visoko.
He says that since then, he has unearthed a network of underground tunnels and found man-made structures there and has also found fossilised leaves tested scientifically to date back 34,000 years, supporting his claim that the Pyramid of the Sun is the oldest around.
But experts are sceptical. They believe the pyramids are nothing more than a cluster of natural hills.
Archaeology professor Curtis Runnels from Boston University, for instance, says that he is "not persuaded" by the arguments in favour of the so-called pyramids because cultures capable of producing such "colossal buildings" came about in that region only about 2,500 years ago.
Even then, they did not construct buildings of that size and form, he told The Straits Times.
"Early prehistoric cultures, including village farmers of the Neolithic (back to 9,000 years ago), and before them Stone Age hunters and gatherers, did not have populations large enough or social structures organised in ways that would have permitted the creation of pyramids on a large scale," he says. He adds that geologists have attributed the pyramidal shape of the "natural hills" to wind and water erosion.
"Pyramidal shapes offer the least resistance to such forces, and are common forms in nature," he says.
There are also concerns that Dr Osmanagich's activities may have caused archaeological damage.
Says Dr Brian Stewart, assistant curator at the Museum of Anthropological Archaeology at the University of Michigan: "There were very worrying reports that he and his team have essentially sculpted the sides of these natural hills into something they think resembles pyramids, in the process stripping away sediment which contains layers of actual archaeology from mediaeval and earlier periods."
Regardless of the doubt cast on his work, Dr Osmanagich says he is not going to give up. He hopes to dig further underground so that he can get closer to the claimed pyramids and find out who built them.
He says: "Egyptian pyramids have been investigated for 200 years by Egyptologists but still major questions are not answered."
ping
long going known scam to get tourist money
I’m not sure how long I’ll be able to endure his, er, unique narrative style but here’s a couple of his videos...
https://vimeo.com/131135026
https://vimeo.com/127342396
https://vimeo.com/126755676
:’) Thanks EveningStar. Not pyramids, modern earthmoving by the “archaeologist” making the claim.
http://www.robertschoch.com/bosniacontent.html
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-mystery-of-bosnias-ancient-pyramids-148990462/?no-ist=
” but still major questions are not answered”
Anyone who supports some cockamamie idea with those words can be shot without lowering the intellect of the community.
A bona fide expert's logic: cart, then horse.
Actually one of the major questions is which King/Pharaoh came before which and what were there names. One of the historic sources for those names and the order has been proven to be a longstanding fake, yet is still relied on as if it was genuine.
Further, many names are the same or similar and even unknown, some names are used for known people occur only on the list. A list believed genuine is incomplete and complied at a later date tan the fake. The significance of this is this list is used for dating everything from the Sphinx to each and every pyramid and temple.
Other forms of dating are not permitted by law, unless done in Egypt, even if the equipment does not exist there samples may not be taken out of the country. So thermoluminescence dating (dating the stone itself) cannot be done (although a few samples were taken, yielding dates older than standard by hundreds of years).
So for example, the Step Pyramid may be more recent than the Great Pyramid, the reverse of the standard. Which raises major questions ...
Doesn’t surprise me after watching “Ancient Aliens”.....
Yep, he was on AA a few seasons ago.
I think these Bosnian pyramids have been debunked, BUT
What kind of historian says something can't be so because of a current understanding -- rather than investigating the information to see if the current understanding needs to be revised?
I love his “little puppy” voice.
Sounds like he’s been to Bronycon.
The professor's view probably has to do with the fact that there's no continuity of activity between the fake archaeologist's claimed 10K and the sudden appearance of actual durable structures. So I'm not sure why you're directing criticism at him, when this Von Danniken style amusement park builder isn't being held to any apparent standard at all.
I’m just sayin’, boss.
Just sayin’.
If we call a little pony's tail and ears legs, how many legs does a little pony have?
Answer;
Calling the ears and the tail legs, doesn't make those into legs, and even a Frenchman wouldn't eat a horse's ears or its tail, nor either would eat a talking horse, all at once.
3, the answer is 3 (not 42).
Don't believe everything a Hitchhiker tries to tell you.
Actually one of the major questions is which King/Pharaoh came before which and what were there names. One of the historic sources for those names and the order has been proven to be a longstanding fake, yet is still relied on as if it was genuine.The king list of Manetho, to which I think you're referring, was compiled during New Kingdom, and survives as later ancient copies. A number of the rulers have never been identified in the monuments, which appears to be Quirke's objection to using Manetho instead of relying exclusivly on the monuments and their inscriptions.
Further, many names are the same or similar and even unknown, some names are used for known people occur only on the list. A list believed genuine is incomplete and complied at a later date tan the fake. The significance of this is this list is used for dating everything from the Sphinx to each and every pyramid and temple.
Other forms of dating are not permitted by law, unless done in Egypt, even if the equipment does not exist there samples may not be taken out of the country. So thermoluminescence dating (dating the stone itself) cannot be done (although a few samples were taken, yielding dates older than standard by hundreds of years).Zahi Hawass claimed (and I assume he still does) that radiocarbon dating doesn't work on Egyptian antiquities. This is due to the fact that, when RC dating has been done to various New Kingdom relics, the dates have mostly diverged from the conventional pseudochronology. The divergent dates have been coherent in the context of Velikovsky's reconstruction of ancient history. Thermoluminescence should be tried on the Ramses and Nefertari images at Abu Simbel, as they have been exposed to sunlight for their entire existence. The contents of Ramses II's canopic jars -- jars containing his guts -- RC dated almost 800 years too young, which is verbatim the divergence in date given by Velikovsky. In the New Kingdom, the 25th dynasty is the only one that is basically in the right place, and preceded the 26th (19th), bumping it up additional years equal to the length of the 25th.
So for example, the Step Pyramid may be more recent than the Great Pyramid, the reverse of the standard. Which raises major questions.I've never heard of that. The age of the Great Sphinx at Giza is at issue, given its water eroded surfaces. Since the Saqqara pyramids are largely of mud brick, if there had been rain hitting them as well, they'd have been reduced to a pile of crap, since they're supposedly hundreds of years earlier than the Sphinx.
Okay, let’s take him out back and beat the crap out of him! ;’)
Baby-talk is grating, even from cute girls. On a guy it’s just creepy. I did like his narration though - it was all so off~the~cuff - and off the wall.
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