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Row over whether America, Australia, or Britain gets the wreck of James Cook's ship [tr]
UK Daily Mail ^ | September 20, 2018 | Khaleda Rahman

Posted on 09/20/2018 9:14:04 AM PDT by C19fan

As American scientists prepare to announce the location of the remains of Endeavour, a battle is expected over whether Britain, the United States or Australia gets the wreck of James Cook's famed ship.

A team of marine archaeologists from Australia and the US said they believe they may have found the resting place of the ship – used by the British explorer on a voyage of discovery to Australia in 1768 - 25 years after beginning their search.

They are expected to announce on Friday 'one or two' sites in Newport Harbour in Rhode Island, where the Endeavour was scuttled during the American War of Independence in 1778.

Kathy Abbass, the director of the Rhode Island Marine Archaeology Project, told The Telegraph that project leaders believe they know which of the wreckages they have been examining pinpoints the Endeavour.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: ancientnavigation; archaeology; australia; blockade; captaincook; dailymail; endeavour; exploration; goatisland; godsgravesglyphs; hawaii; hmbendeavor; hmsendeavour; hmslordsandwich; kathyabbass; khaledarahman; lordsandwhich; lordsandwich; navigation; newfoundland; newport; newzealand; rhodeisland; ri2394; royalnavy; shipwreck; therevolution; unitedkingdom; wrecks
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To: colorado tanker

Yeah, Lord Sandwich... great, now I want to go to Arby’s.


21 posted on 09/24/2018 4:59:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: colorado tanker
If they scuttled her, they probably paid off the owner, and the owner was probably glad to get what he could (it had been through some serious damage). In that case, there's an international agreement that military vessels remain the property of the home country, in this case, the UK.

22 posted on 09/24/2018 5:01:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

I don’t know much about admiralty law except that it’s complicated and often turns on technicalities. I wonder if a government’s claim to a ship it owns in the sense of I own it under a deed is as strong as that is/was a commissioned vessel in the government’s navy.


23 posted on 09/24/2018 5:07:01 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker
Probably the Hessians have a claim as well.

24 posted on 09/24/2018 5:15:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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"Row over..."

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25 posted on 09/24/2018 8:14:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv; colorado tanker
Map showing course of first voyage:

Endeavour replica compared to Queen Mary2


26 posted on 09/25/2018 8:25:46 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks
Having been on a replica of the Nina (Santa Clara), I just tip my hat every time to the seamen who went with Columbus. Tiny little thing. Looked large compared with the expensive power boats and other rigs along the river channel in Grand Haven, in part because it stuck up much higher, but once aboard, it's clear and obvious that there wasn't much room. And the replica had some space taken up by the modern bathroom facilities required in our day. :^)

The Titanic even looks small next to the crazy-big cruise ships built nowadays.

27 posted on 09/26/2018 1:32:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Fred Nerks

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/G-bDDnsSLhc/hqdefault.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_passenger_ships


28 posted on 09/26/2018 1:36:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

“...and the owner was probably glad to get what he could (it had been through some serious damage)...”

And to think my old man still talked about how he should have never got rid of that 1954 Cadillac!


29 posted on 09/26/2018 1:43:48 AM PDT by 21twelve (!)
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To: 21twelve
:^) I wish my grandpa hadn't been so law-abiding when told to turn in those gold pieces.

30 posted on 09/26/2018 1:46:24 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: colorado tanker

I’d seen Mister T, but never knew he’d been promoted to Admiral, or even been in the Navy...

[see earlier rimshot]


31 posted on 09/26/2018 1:48:04 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv
Cook made three incredibly long voyages in that little wooden tub.

I have recently read the Penguin Classics James Cook, The Journals... Throughout these journeys, his first rule was:

To endeavor by every fair means to cultivate a friendship with the natives and to treat them with all imaginable humanity.

32 posted on 09/26/2018 3:18:36 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks
Yet, he ran his ship right into the Great Barrier Reef, just like Captain Ron. :^)

33 posted on 09/26/2018 11:20:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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This topic was posted 9/20/2018, thanks again C19fan. Just an update.

34 posted on 01/03/2024 6:34:01 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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