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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 5 -7, 2003
Various | November 5, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 11/05/2003 12:14:25 AM PST by sweetliberty

TERRI'S FIGHT
(Thread 5 - November 5-7)
(Link back to Thread 4 - Nov. 3-4)

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Contained in Thread 4:

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Resource links to search business and criminal records in Florida, info on special guardian ad litum meeting (attempt to change qualifications?), Michael Schiavo parody, link to referral letter for Dr. Hammersfahr to the Nobel committee, transcript to Abrams Report closing commments - Nov.3, e-mail address for Larry King Live, Florida statutes on guardianship and some damning statements against Michael.

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Click on pic for Terri's website

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This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

I know we're all getting tired, but we have to hang in there. This isn't just Terri's fight anymore. It is our fight too. To everyone who has worked tirelessly to gather information, write letters, make phone calls, spend time in prayer, be at the vigil supporting Terri's family and all the many other offerings you have given for this effort, thank you and may the Lord richly bless you.

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Latest Threads On Terri's Case

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Professor Appointed to Probe Schiavo Case

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Coral Snake Song: When Johnny Comes Marching Home (The conspiracy against Terri Schiavo)

Should Terri Schiavo Live or Die?

Michelle Malkin: Starvation nation

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FL ACLU Files Brief in Effort to Starve Disabled Woman, as Bush Acts to Save Terri Schiavo

Terri Schiavo: Myths and Facts - Dr. Dianne Irving, PhD

Recovering from a 'Persistent Vegetative State'

Husband in Right to Die Case Moves to Block Parents in New Trial

Terri's Law Support Contested

Pro-Lifers Link Euthanasia to Abortion

Florida Court Prohibits Terri's Parents From Joining "Terri's Law" Battle (ACLJ)

Terri Schindler Schiavo Guardianship Hearing Wednesday November 5, 2003


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TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: attorneyfromhell; daily; euthanasia; florida; forcesofevil; georgefelos; guardianfromhell; hino; merchantsofdeath; michaelschiavo; righttolife; schiavo; schindler; terri; terrischiavo; terrisdailies
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To: T'wit; Budge
"Maybe if she waited until a full 24 hours after Terri's funeral, wore a black maternity frock out of respect, and got her little bastards baptized at the same time..."

You don't mince words, do you? ROTFL!

521 posted on 11/06/2003 12:12:05 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: CindyDawg
well maybe www.freerepublic.com in little letters at the bottom? LOL
522 posted on 11/06/2003 12:12:53 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Coral Snake
"Have you noticed that the trolls Deep_6 and Legerdomain have not shown up on any Terri threads since Judge Greer reversed himself. More proof that they might be "perps" in this case who realize that the jig just may be up.

Maybe they are "perps", maybe they aren't. No way to know. But they'll be back, because of something external that drives them.

523 posted on 11/06/2003 12:14:21 PM PST by Wampus SC (Trolls for the death culture - their name is Legion.)
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To: Dante3
Great idea about a billboard. Maybe someone knows how much it would cost to rent one.

WOW, I LIKE this idea!!

524 posted on 11/06/2003 12:14:56 PM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida
There is another alleged (third) child who receives child support. I haven't had a moment to fact check but I wouldn't doubt it.
525 posted on 11/06/2003 12:15:29 PM PST by freeparoundtheclock (TERRISFIGHT.ORG - Go to Hospice Woodside Make a Sign "TERRI'S ANGELS")
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To: floriduh voter
I sent a card and donation yesterday. Thanks!!! Go, Terri!
526 posted on 11/06/2003 12:17:19 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: All
My Comments page is wacko...could it be because I'm a dummy and formated a post wrong? If that is the case can someone help me fix the post or my page?? There is no way you can help the fact that I'm a dummy...:-(
527 posted on 11/06/2003 12:19:37 PM PST by Krodg (a proud member of the 'Godsquad')
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To: freeparoundtheclock
The third child still hasn't been verified, but for the time being, we know that Michael and Jodi have two. That's still sticky enough (I think) for Michael to have to get out of. I know it's not over by a long shot, but I can't help but feel that HINO and Felon are beginning to understand that the jig is up!
528 posted on 11/06/2003 12:24:46 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida
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To: sweetliberty
Being familiar with Kate Adamson's story I was keenly interested in what she would say on the O'Reilley show last night. What a huge disappointment. She has clearly changed the story of her experience to capitalize on the Terri Schiavo case in order to get free publicity to advance her career as a motivational speaker and sell her book. If you go to her website it becomes abundantly clear that the interview was a work of fiction.

Was Kate Adamson in danger of losing her life as a result of the brain stem pons stroke she suffered on June 29, 1995? Without a doubt.  "During the first few days of the six weeks she would spend in the intensive care unit at Torrence memorial Medical Center, doctors gave her a  one percent chance of surviving".   This would be appropriate considering the location of the stroke and the damage that might be present.  However, the articles she has chosen to tell her story tell a different story than she related during her interview with O'Reilley.  For instance she leads O'Reilly and the audience to believe that she was that she was aware but the medical staff thought she was totally unresponsive for almost seventy days. Her own website disproves this.

Her own website makes NO claim that anyone diagnosed her as being in a persistent vegetative state (PVS). There is one article that states "From a near vegetative state just under two years ago, Kate has come a long way". This is a far far cry from the PVS diagnosis of Terri Schiavo.

During last night's interview she spoke of her inability to speak, yet again from an article she has placed on her own website, it is stated "Her inability to speak was caused more by the presence of a tracheotomy tube she needed to help her breathe than it was by the stroke, but it was very frightening nonetheless".  Again this indicates that her condition did not even approach that of Terri Shiavo. Why, if the statements contained in this article aren't  true, would Ms. Adamson place the article on her own website?

And what about that "rippng out" of her feeding tube?? This poses so many questions as to discredit the entire interview. First why would the doctor's and/or the staff remove the tube at all, unless so directed by her guardian or in this case, her husband. Neither the hospital, her doctors or the nursing staff would unilaterally make the decision to starve the patient and let her die. Her husband insists that she could communicate by blinking her eyes and claims that he forced them to replace the feeding tube under threat of lawsuit. Nowhere on Ms. Adamson's website is this eight day denial of sustenance mentioned, much less the traumatic "ripping out" of her feeding tube. Initially during last night's interview, Ms. Adamson states "when the feeding tube "was turned off for eight days, ahh I was......".  She doesn't say removed or ripped out, she says "turned off". After reviewing every word on her Ms. Adamson's own website, it becomes very apparent that this incident has been created to help create a link to the Terri Schiavo case.

When asked by O'Reilley "how long did it take you to come out of the vegetative state" she didn't answer the question except to say "[w]ell it was a matter of time" then immediately attempted to divert the question to a discussion of her feeding regimen. It is her husband who intervenes and attempts to answer the question, yet his account appears to be at odds with the information on the Adamson website.  When you read the articles she has place on her website, you will discover that her cognizance was discovered in about two weeks from the time of her admission. "After a couple of weeks, someone brought in an alphabet board, which she could use to communicate by blinking 'yes' at the next letter in her message."  It was through this method that she communicated with the hospital staff and her doctors far from being unable to communicate for seventy days. If the stories that her own website reports are true, and if they weren't why would Adamson place them there, the new story of denial of sustenance and the traumatic "ripping out" of her feeding tube is more than suspect.

Lets see,  her husband states that she could communicate by blinking her eyes in a week or two.  " There was a good week or two where she was aware, and I couldn't get anyone to believe me. Just like Terri's family..."  The articles on Adamson's website says she was using blinking to communicate words  to the hospital staff and her doctors. Quite a difference.

There's more. Go to Kate Adamson's website and read for yourself.

One thing has to be kept in mind. Kate Adamson's story doesn't change anything about the condition of Terri Schiavo nor is it even remotely similar. Terri's cerebral cortex has been extensively and irreparably damaged and other than a small amount of tissue that is totally isolated (and the viability of this little remnant is in dispute) consists of dead tissue. Kate Adamson suffered a brain stem pons stroke, not the global damage that Terri suffered. Kate Adamson's cerebral cortex was undamaged. Kate Adamson was confined in the hospital and rehab for less than a year before she was returned to her home, upright, talking and carrying on  near normal activities.  Terri, on the other hand has not recovered or demonstrated any signs of recovery for over thirteen years.

529 posted on 11/06/2003 12:26:30 PM PST by daylate-dollarshort
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To: pickyourpoison
#234 made possible with special freeper sauce...
530 posted on 11/06/2003 12:26:41 PM PST by freeparoundtheclock (TERRISFIGHT.ORG - Go to Hospice Woodside Make a Sign "TERRI'S ANGELS")
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To: CindyDawg
They had an Executive Order from Governor Bush "in hand". They waited 3 and a half hours before starting the IV. It took someone from D.C. to order them to start the IV at MPH.
531 posted on 11/06/2003 12:28:50 PM PST by freeparoundtheclock (TERRISFIGHT.ORG - Go to Hospice Woodside Make a Sign "TERRI'S ANGELS")
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To: CindyDawg
Is there a billboard near? What does it cost to rent for a day? yall know?

I am not sure since I do not live in Florida, but I can and will find out if there IS a billboard close by.

532 posted on 11/06/2003 12:29:28 PM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: The Red Zone
MS has to answer for his lack of care towards Terri's horrendous imprisonment since he received his money and used it for.... what? Certainly not the rehabilitation it was intended for! Something gruesome and sickening about a man using money meant for his wife's comfort, attention, therapy and needs being used to pay for an attorney to help him kill her...cannot stand this sick perversion!
533 posted on 11/06/2003 12:29:41 PM PST by Republic
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To: The Red Zone
MS has to answer for his lack of care towards Terri's horrendous imprisonment since he received his money and used it for.... what? Certainly not the rehabilitation it was intended for! Something gruesome and sickening about a man using money meant for his wife's comfort, attention, therapy and needs being used to pay for an attorney to help him kill her...cannot stand this sick perversion!
534 posted on 11/06/2003 12:29:56 PM PST by Republic
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To: Krodg
If you go to worldnetdaily.com or terrisfight.org, you may find a transcript of the Monday Press Conference wherein we were advised that Felos' law partner, Bushnell sent a threatening letter to numerous doctors re: malpractice and battery lawsuits.
535 posted on 11/06/2003 12:30:23 PM PST by freeparoundtheclock (TERRISFIGHT.ORG - Go to Hospice Woodside Make a Sign "TERRI'S ANGELS")
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To: Orlando
"Thanks, I wrote to george and ask if he could have one of guest who reverse speech people, to do it on MS. :)

Yeah, he has some guests that get pretty far out there at times. :) But he's been very serious on this issue, with a factual approach. I don't think I'll suggest using anything as speculative as reversed speech or psychic stuff.

I just send links to information that he or his staff could possibly confirm for themselves. That's my standard SOP with media who I know to already be familiar with an issue.

(But if there's anything to reversed speech, it might be very interesting to hear MS.)

536 posted on 11/06/2003 12:31:40 PM PST by Wampus SC
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To: daylate-dollarshort
Her own website makes NO claim that anyone diagnosed her as being in a persistent vegetative state (PVS). There is one article that states "From a near vegetative state just under two years ago, Kate has come a long way". This is a far far cry from the PVS diagnosis of Terri Schiavo.

You are aware, are you not, that there were more doctors willing to state that Terri was NOT in a PVS condition, most not allowed to testify, then Felos used, in court? YOU DO KNOW that TERRI is NOT PVS, do you not? So.....neither was Kate, what is your point?

537 posted on 11/06/2003 12:34:21 PM PST by Republic
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To: pickyourpoison
Jeb's attorney said basically, that they can't drive all around the State answering every lawsuit that comes up and furthermore, Jeb Bush wasn't properly served with a Summons. Once served with a Summons, the defendant has twenty days to file a Response. A MOTION TO DISMISS may not happen but now Schiavo v. Jeb will be tied up in Court.

That "trashy" (felos speak) Governor of ours, HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING.

538 posted on 11/06/2003 12:35:36 PM PST by freeparoundtheclock (TERRISFIGHT.ORG - Go to Hospice Woodside Make a Sign "TERRI'S ANGELS")
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To: freeparoundtheclock
Seems as tho Pat Anderson needs to get ahold of these doctors THREATENED by Felos's law firm and bring this to the attention of Judge Greer. There should be recourse when a lawyer IGNORES the law and demands that DOCTORS do the same under threat of suit.
539 posted on 11/06/2003 12:36:07 PM PST by Republic
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To: sweetliberty; T'wit
<You don't mince words, do you? ROTFL!

T'wit never has!

540 posted on 11/06/2003 12:36:20 PM PST by Budge ( <>< .)
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