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You need tons click "co-ordinating" (Free Republic - The conservative click Guerilla)
Spiegel (Germany) ^ | 08. März 2004 | Of franc Patalong

Posted on 03/08/2004 1:00:56 PM PST by Jim Robinson

(This is a Google translated excerpt from a Spiegel article regarding Freeping)

Vote vote-pfuscher

You need tons click "co-ordinating"

Of franc Patalong

Votes are a fine thing, the butter on message bread. They give a feedback to the on-line Medienmacher, how the reader sees a thing. George W. Bush regard nearly 60 per cent of the readers of MIRROR ON-line ONE for example as a Top president. We know also, why.

From the guidance for the falsification of the Mirror On-line Votes: "You need tons cklick ' co-ordinating!'" The widow Vivian Freep from Midland (Texas) is "George Bush's biggest more supporter".

Beautifully for Bush, the European imagines there, but in an American conservative Credos ascends equal the anger. An insolence is that, which does not want to say no more and less than the following: Bushs success is based on the assistance of humans, who manipulate, disturbs, falsifies.

Because "Freeping" is an Slang expression. He means the nocturnal pasting over of election posters, the organization of being noisy area MOS, the purposeful disturbing of appearances of political opponents and - not least - the massive falsification of tunings in the InterNet.

The strange term developed for end of the nineties and goes back on the web page "Free Republic" of the ultrakonservativen activists Jim Robinson. "Freep", how the web page was fast called by fans, understands itself as "a conservative message forum". Principal item of the offer is the panel, in which it goes partly violently to the thing.

The conservative click Guerilla

Free Republic began as Clinton Hasser side, developed themselves further however fast. First Lorbeeren harvested the "Freep Movement", when the side began to call in various elections for the "support" of conservative candidates.

Completely concretely: It concerned to disturb demonstrations of the democrats to tear off or falsify posters, to opponents to support actively. Already as itself Bill Clinton saw, to organized Freep groups in different US cities "info. meetings" and switched newspaper advertisements confronted with an office expulsion procedure. The term "Freeping" developed and meant: Over tones the opponent.

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To: Salem; Jim Robinson; All
SHALOM!

I've been away from FR for a Day and LOOK WHAT HAPPENS!

OY VEY!

I almost missed ALL the Fun.

Thank You for The PING Salem.

GOD BLESS AMERICA, GOD BLESS FREE REPUBLIC and JIM ROBINSON!

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NOTE TO: Leftist Germans and Euro - WEASELS,

THE TRUTH ALWAYS...WINS!

You Ought To TRY THE TRUTH Sometime, Maybe You'll Like IT!

681 posted on 03/09/2004 8:54:18 PM PST by Simcha7 ((The Plumb - Line has been Drawn, T'shuvah/Return for The Kingdom of HaShem is at hand!))
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To: Prodigal Son
Yes, one of the tools the media likes to use against us...

By freeping the poll, we take away one of the tools of propaganda the media like to use.

682 posted on 03/09/2004 9:03:34 PM PST by GOPJ (NFL Owners: Grown men don't watch hollywood peep shows with wives and children.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Now Der Spiegel has a follow-up "Freep Back Wir sind doch auch viele" but I haven't found a translation.
The translations of the other Bush related stories are just as hilarious as this one.
683 posted on 03/09/2004 9:11:58 PM PST by Brasil ("The cause of freedom is in good hands." GWB)
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To: Angelus Errare
bookmarking
684 posted on 03/09/2004 9:26:41 PM PST by Dianna
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To: GOPJ
This is such a lengthy thread that I think this post of mine bears repeating every 50 or 100 posts (especially since so many German trolls are stopping by):

"FReeping" exists in Germany whether you acknowledge it or not. It is "activism". Technically speaking, FReeping is activism by those conservatives who visit FreeRepublic.com.

That activism can extend to going to a rally or a counter protest. That activism can extend to signing up names on a petition to get a candidate or initiative on a ballot. That activism can be emailing, calling, or writing a note to a newsroom, editor, elected official, public servant (like a school principal), etc. Private addresses and phone numbers are not permitted on FR. Some FReeping includes responding to an online poll. Free Republic is not the only site that engages in this sort of activism.

I'm not surprised that the media only single out FR for this activity (and I suspect that often the media is notified by Red DUpes). Here is a little researched evidence that the media chooses to ignore.

The media has written time and time again about how FReepers FReep polls. Newsweek/MSNBC recently included a link on their poll page to send surfers to FR to see the call for people to go to the poll.

MSNBC- Are You a Bush Booster -- or Basher? (Updated: 5:27 p.m. ET Feb. 12, 2004)

Editor's Note: This week, the online version of the Newsweek poll received an unusually high rate of response, with the clear majority of participants casting uniform votes. For these reasons, we believe the poll is being intentionally manipulated. In addition, we received an e-mail alert suggesting that the campaign is being coordinated by at least one special-interest group.

SF CHRON ON FR: FReep This -- How The Right Wing Is Making Itself Heard

(Thursday, January 30, 2003) Something strange happened during the 2000 Gore-Bush election fiasco you may have missed.

CNN, which was running 24-hour special election coverage, hosted a program with conservative columnist Bob Novak shortly after the disputed election results were returned. Novak was adamant that Al Gore should quit trying to steal the election and concede. To bolster his point, he brought up the results of CNN.com's public-opinion poll "Should Al Gore concede?" Poll results showed that a full 89 percent of the thousands of people who had visited CNN.com and voted had agreed -- Gore should give up the ghost.

But had the American people really spoken? Or was this poll FReeped?

Though many may not know about them, FReepers are members of a small but growing and vocal right-wing movement who are making a name for themselves. [snip]

But then, well, there are those other tactics some FReepers have been known to use.

First of all, the mass poll voting: A FReeper will post a link to a poll on Free Republic and urge other FReepers to FReep it. Search under "FReep poll" at the Web site and you'll find many "FReep this poll!" marching orders each day. In monitoring Free Republic myself, I have been amazed at how fast the FReepers seem to find polls, which are sometimes posted to Free Republic just minutes after they appear online.

"Whenever a poll is posted on Free Republic.com, everybody goes and votes the right way, and there's nothing wrong with that," says Marinelle Thompson, FReeper and founder of gun rights group Second Ammendment Sisters. "We just do it for a laugh. It doesn't really mean anything."

She's right -- there's nothing at all wrong with encouraging a group to vote in a poll. It's done all the time in political groups of every stripe. What most people, even some FReepers themselves, object to is the intentional swaying of polls by people who vote repeatedly. In fact, SF Gate has had a few of its own polls FReeped. As SF Gate News Director (and poll writer) Vlae Kershner put it, "People are finding a way of getting around our system that only allows one vote, and they're voting hundreds of times. It's not thousands of people voting one way; it's one or two people voting hundreds of times."

Anyway, Kershner says, SF Gate's polls are for entertainment value only. After all, the poll population is self-selected. The people who vote in online polls are those who care enough about an issue to vote -- by its very nature, a skewed population. But not everyone who looks at poll results knows the difference.

"Online polls are silly -- everybody knows that," says liberal political analyst William Rivers Pitt, whose book War on Iraq: What Team Bush Doesn't Want You To Know made him something of a FReeper target for a time. "But it can have a real effect if it's brought out as news that actually means something. The best example is the Gore thing."

David Allen, founder and moderator of major liberal forum Democratic Underground, a popular site many think of as Free Republic's most direct ideologically opposite rival, agrees.

"A lot of blame here needs to be placed on the media itself," says Allen. "These polls are put up there on Web sites and sold as if they are news, as if they are an accurate reflection of the opinions of American people, and they're not. They're completely skewed to whomever finds it first -- and, to be honest, that's never us liberals. It's always them. As long as the news media continues to report the results of an Internet poll as if it's news, the FReeping of polls will continue to be a problem."

Here was a thread I located on DUh and share to FReepers:

From the thread titled "Should We Report Freepers Whenever they try "Freeping" polls?"

Sun Oct-12-03
NUMBER ONE POST: Sure why not...
And yes we should continue DUing polls. There is a need to help people from making stupid mistakes and if a poll result might influence even one person from supporting these idiots in charge then I have no qualms with it.

So you see, it is all a big con. The Rat Party outs the FReeps and then DUpes the public all in one big scam.

To show that FR is hardly the only group PINGing people to vote in polls, here is a documented case if ISLAMming a poll. I discovered it when googling Omer Chouardy's name the day that the 3 medical students were stopped after a suspicious tip in a restaurant:

Students forum on Missouri.edu (muslims thread)

Omer Choudhary
Wed, 15 Dec 1999 20:15:25 -0600 (CST)

Seriously, everone go to this website Milia sent and vote for the Prophet, Peace Be Upon Him. I just went and voted and apparently, Alhumdullilah the most votes are for the Prophet (PBUH) right now, at 20,352. Second place is Jesus, with 5,026. So we're way ahead but the more the better.

also want to point out a very important thing. Many of you will think that we don't need to worry about some stupid vote to prove or show anyone that Prophet Muhammad, Peace Be Upon Him is really "Number One".

Agreed. However, stop and think for a minute that the amount of people around the world that are influenced by these same magazines, programs, and surveys will also think that "Hey, how did this person win?
What's so special about them...etc etc". So the idea is that this is also a way, (a big way), to attract people's attention to Islam and to what the religion is all about, rather than them being bogged down by stereotypes they hear from the media, etc. So please go and vote at this website:

http://www.msnbc.com/modules/Millennium_People/MillP_ReligPhilos.asp

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"Life Is Goooooood!"
-Omer J. Choudhary
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Hmmmm. MSNBC never did report that poll was ISLAMmed. Obviously those results were tilted 4-1 in Muslims favor when ABC just reported that 8 out of 10 American adults is "Christian".

The left has dominated social activism for 35 years. Now it is something that "threatens" society? Another perspective enters the public arena and it is "bad"?

685 posted on 03/09/2004 9:27:14 PM PST by weegee ('...Kerry is like that or so a crack sausage.')
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To: alnick
Who is Vivian Freep and what does she have to do with this article?

The Widow Vivian Freep

686 posted on 03/09/2004 10:43:10 PM PST by kanawa (Nine times out of ten....trepidation leads to jubilation)
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To: weegee
Democrats have been cheating for years. Soon they'll start cheaing on online polls and at that point the story will die down as they say. Somehow, dems cheating and doing dirty tricks isn't news... Odd, isn't it?
687 posted on 03/10/2004 6:48:05 AM PST by GOPJ (NFL Owners: Grown men don't watch hollywood peep shows with wives and children.)
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To: AnnaZ; feinswinesuksass
Almost as good as Engrish.com ;-)
688 posted on 03/10/2004 7:36:51 AM PST by HangFire (Keep it simple and things won't get complicated.)
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To: GOPJ
How is it even cheating to let interested parties know about a poll?

This is UNSCIENTIFIC.

Why run a poll if they already know the answer they want?

The left has BEEN doing this. The left is the one who tells the media about FReepers FReeping polls but they continue to DUmp on these same polls themselves.

The media will need to find a bigger scandal than this.

MoveOn is a partisan PAC but they NEVER are identified by the media as such. They are "concerned" Americans.

Howard Dean's followers DUped polls before the primaries began. This is why he was considered a "popular" candidate even though he never could actually draw the votes. The media ignored that part of the story. All we heard is that his followers used the "internet".

689 posted on 03/10/2004 8:41:26 AM PST by weegee ('...Kerry is like that or so a crack sausage.')
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To: My back yard
Take a look at the thread with pictures taken by TGSL Takoma when the D.C. Chapter went out and teased the Answer people by pasting a sign over their posters. It made Roll Call.

Regards,

690 posted on 03/10/2004 9:22:49 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife; Jimmy Valentine's brother
J.R.G., you better get over here and have a look.

Vas iss los in der gasthaus, Hoss?

691 posted on 03/10/2004 9:38:34 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Jim Robinson
Okey Dokey
692 posted on 03/10/2004 12:13:12 PM PST by dixie sass (FReep A.N.S.W.E.R. - MARCH 20 IN FAYETTEVILLE, N.C.)
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To: Prodigal Son
It has always been my understanding that 'freeping a poll' wasn't an effort to deceive the public but is simply pointing out that on-line polls are meaningless...

By freeping the poll, we take away one of the tools of propaganda the media like to use.

It also counters similar efforts by DU types.

693 posted on 03/10/2004 1:42:28 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt-- Pray for Terry Schiavo!)
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To: jellybean
I think they're talking about your Sore Loserman posters here...

Actually, I'm pretty sure they're talking about the DC Chapter putting "This rally sponsored by Saddam Hussein" stickers on the ANSWER rally posters in Washington. A photo of on of those "defaced" (I would say, "accuratized") posters was declared a news photo of the year for 2003 by The Hill newspaper. If the Spiegle research beagles lurked over here for a bit or did some background digging, they would have found out about it.

694 posted on 03/10/2004 1:57:19 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt-- Pray for Terry Schiavo!)
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To: Ranxerox
Man - this is like Yoda reading Vogon Poetry.

Dead on.

695 posted on 03/10/2004 2:02:16 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt-- Pray for Terry Schiavo!)
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To: Jimmy Valentine
Ausgang und Einfarht!

To quote a famous German Sergeant, "I KNOW NOTHING, NOTHING!"
696 posted on 03/10/2004 2:12:54 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother ("Never trust a RAT with anything" - Angelwood)
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To: Mr. Silverback
I missed that one...got a link?
697 posted on 03/10/2004 2:28:34 PM PST by jellybean (Taglines are easy...it's filling in the reply box that takes thought.)
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To: Poohbah
Does the stuff in your "messages" actually mean anything (I'm fascinated by military comm styles) or is it just filler?
698 posted on 03/10/2004 2:34:27 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt-- Pray for Terry Schiavo!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
The Der Spiegel is bitching about people "defacing" graffitti? When the antiAmerican(but ProPalestinian) War protestors pay to post their banners, then they can claim they were "defaced".
699 posted on 03/10/2004 2:55:58 PM PST by weegee ('...Kerry is like that or so a crack sausage.')
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To: Mr. Silverback
They're based on the emergency action message formats from the movie "By Dawn's Early Light."

"We've got Alice on one plane, and the Mad Hatter on the other."
700 posted on 03/10/2004 3:06:13 PM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
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