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Yes, Down My Pants. Oh, Like You Haven't? The Sordid Sandburglar Story
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| 07-20-04
| The Heavy Equipment Guy
Posted on 07/20/2004 5:18:45 PM PDT by backhoe
I like the Opinion Journal's headline on this: "What Secrets Lurk in Sandy Berger's Pants?":
TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: berger; filegate2; frlibrarians; pantthrax; sandyberger; sandybergerspants; sandyburglar; soxgate; trousergate
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posted on
07/20/2004 5:18:49 PM PDT
by
backhoe
To: backhoe
aren't sandy and kerry girls names?
2
posted on
07/20/2004 5:23:28 PM PDT
by
petercooper
(In the end, Democrats are just a bunch of jackasses.)
To: petercooper
3
posted on
07/20/2004 5:24:43 PM PDT
by
backhoe
(1990's? Decade of Frauds. 2000's? Decade of Lunatics...)
To: backhoe; Howlin; Liz; ALOHA RONNIE; RonDog
From the dark side - RATS underground...
yardwork (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-20-04 05:30 PM
19. There's no evidence that Berger is a blockhead.
There's no evidence he did anything wrong.
Pure comic relief...
4
posted on
07/20/2004 5:27:07 PM PDT
by
Libloather
(The United States is, by far, the COOLEST country to live in - EVER!)
To: backhoe
The March 2000 review, Ashcroft told the panel, warns the Clinton administration "of a substantial al-Qaida network and affiliated foreign terrorist presence within the U.S., capable of supporting additional terrorist attacks here."
Clinton knew Al Qaeda was operating in America. He didn't notify law enforcement, the FBI, or the American people. Why?
Ashcroft said the "highly-classified" review "was not among the 30 items upon which my predecessor [Janet Reno] briefed me during the transition.
It gets worse. The Clinton administration did not tell the Bush administration that Al Qaeda was operating in the United States. Again, why?
It's as simple as this. Clinton covered up the activities of a terrorist organization on American soil when he was in office. Berger stole information that revealed this fact from the National Archives.
If this isn't treason, I don't know what is.
To: backhoe
I am so mad and I won't take it any more! This is a serious breach of security within our own past/future government. And the left is trying to downplay the seriousness of it.
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posted on
07/20/2004 5:49:34 PM PDT
by
crusty codger
(Arrogance often covers a minimum of intelligence)
To: backhoe
Currently, on Drudge: CLINTON: BERGER-DOCUMENTS FUROR IS JUST POLITICS
To: backhoe
Bergergate
8
posted on
07/20/2004 6:16:23 PM PDT
by
chainsaw
(http://www.hanoi-john.org.)
To: chainsaw
9
posted on
07/20/2004 6:17:33 PM PDT
by
cyborg
(http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
To: backhoe
To: backhoe
To: backhoe
I was in the gun store the other day and looked at so many guns that I inadvertently stuffed a couple of pistols in my socks and a rifle in my pants. The owner called me up and asked me if I had seen them and I returned the rifle and one pistol. I must have accidentally put the other one in the trash compacter. I'll have to admit I'm kind of sloppy when it comes to gun shopping.
12
posted on
07/20/2004 7:24:34 PM PDT
by
TigersEye
(Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
To: backhoe
To: chainsaw; backhoe; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; blam; Dog; Cap Huff; Coop; Boot Hill
OK, But a bunch of us are using
SOXGATE
cause this is gonna be bigger than just Berger and he is accused of putting documents in his Socks (SOX ) and the DemonicRats convention starts real soon in Boston which is the home of the Boston Red Sox....Mostly its catchy and easy to remember!
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; All
Soxgate? Very good! Here is more:
15
posted on
07/21/2004 1:04:07 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(A Nuke for every Kook... what a Clinton "legacy...")
To: All
16
posted on
07/21/2004 1:10:04 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(2 Americas- Producers, and the Parasites that feed on them...)
To: backhoe
To: All
18
posted on
07/21/2004 1:21:37 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(Has that Clinton "legacy" made you feel safer yet?)
To: Lancey Howard
Thankee!
19
posted on
07/21/2004 1:23:14 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Sunset...)
To: backhoe
To: Libloather
The frightening thing is, those folks can vote AND do jury duty.
21
posted on
07/21/2004 1:31:26 AM PDT
by
piasa
(Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
To: All
Our friends in Canada pick up the sleazy tale:
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posted on
07/21/2004 1:58:27 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Sunset...)
To: All
As usual, they noted something no one else noticed. If the taking of the memos was "inadvertent", how does one explain that he zeroed in on the SAME MEMO on subsequent visits? Good question.
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posted on
07/21/2004 5:13:14 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Sunset...)
To: backhoe
We need some quotes from way back. Those who recall the 'Rats attempt to get Reagan over 'Iran-Contra' may remember Ollie North had a secretary named Fawn Hall who admitted to removing documents in her skirt and boots. The media went crazy over that. She got immunity and Ollie got... to become an American icon. There have to be many 'Rats who are on the record over her behavior to compare with their current Berger comments. Maybe even Kerry.
To: All
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posted on
07/21/2004 6:43:50 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Sunset...)
To: backhoe
26
posted on
07/21/2004 6:45:32 AM PDT
by
dead
(I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar."".)
To: dead
Cool graphic- thanks!
How this will play out is anyone's guess- I see the "Atomic Iraq!" story is trying to edge the SandBurglar into the ditch, but it's funny to watch these sleazes spin, sputter, and squirm in the light of scrutiny. May they never have a moment's peace.
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posted on
07/21/2004 6:49:58 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Sunset...)
To: backhoe; Ernest_at_the_Beach
28
posted on
07/21/2004 8:05:55 AM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(Berger was an attorney w/o his secretary, and he just re-filed in the wrong drawers! Move On!)
To: All
Here's a thread with Rush Limbaugh's comments:
Rush.
Here are the proceedures required to handle classified documents:
I found this over at NARA the Archives site
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posted on
07/21/2004 9:32:54 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Sunset...)
To: backhoe
Backhoe, is there any way the Archivists can know whether Berger brought in documents to place them 'on the record', 'records' created to skew the documentation on the Millenium bombings?
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posted on
07/21/2004 9:38:45 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
To: petercooper
Pics and Xrays.
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posted on
07/21/2004 9:40:01 AM PDT
by
New Perspective
(Proud father of a 7 month old son with Down Syndrome)
To: MHGinTN
Backhoe, is there any way the Archivists can know whether Berger brought in documents to place them 'on the record', 'records' created to skew the documentation on the Millenium bombings?Good question- normally there is such tight control of access that I would think such a move would be detected... the proceedures are outlined here:
-link--
But something doesn't add up.
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posted on
07/21/2004 9:47:53 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Sunset...)
To: All
A lot of the purloined data was on al Kerry's Web site and used by him in a speech. Yesterday, when this was pointed out on FR, that data disappeared.
Google has a cache of the press release.
-- the key word, Soxgate --
Ernest has set up this keyword to serve as a indexer of threads dealing with the Sandy Bergular mess.
Go to the keyword, Soxgate, and click it with your mouse to see what has been amassed in such a short time on Free Republic.
33
posted on
07/21/2004 12:11:20 PM PDT
by
backhoe
(A Nuke for every Kook... what a Clinton "legacy...")
To: All
34
posted on
07/21/2004 2:01:53 PM PDT
by
backhoe
(-30-)
To: TigersEye
I wondered where the new pistol came from. ( ;
To: backhoe
Good job as usual. Thanks backhoe.
36
posted on
07/21/2004 2:03:14 PM PDT
by
Jean S
To: backhoe
"EVERYBODY DOES IT"(C)liberal logic
37
posted on
07/21/2004 2:03:50 PM PDT
by
ChadGore
(Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
To: JeanS; ChadGore
Thanks for stopping by-
38
posted on
07/21/2004 2:12:37 PM PDT
by
backhoe
(-30-)
To: All
39
posted on
07/21/2004 4:52:58 PM PDT
by
backhoe
(-30-)
To: backhoe
To: prognostigaator
Amazing....add to favorites.....polish up tagline for future use.
41
posted on
07/21/2004 11:13:16 PM PDT
by
spokeshave
(strategery + schadenfreude = stratenschadenfreudery)
To: All
Thia story is burgeoning, spreading, and exploding to the point of absurdity... it's reaching comic-opera levels- just like the Clinton era:
Hill set to probe Berger's actions This whole incident just serves to remind the people just what a sleazy, self-centered, corrupt lot all the Clintonistas were in the 90's, and how they still put their pathetic skins ahead of America's security.
Crosslinked:
Some say "we were lucky to have survived the Clinton's corrupt and criminal reign"-- I say, "the jury is still out on that..."
Besides the terrorist threat that burgeoned on their watch, there are the little matters of the North Koreans, Red Chinese, nuclear proliferation all over the globe, the loss/sale/walking out the door of innumerable military secrets... gee, once you start tallying the breeches of security, you can't hardly stop.
Just remember this, America- if Chinese MIRVs blossom over eight or twelve- or two hundred and fifty- American cities at once-- you stood by and let it come to pass.
If suicide bombers or anthrax spores bloom in you malls and schools and daycare centers and golf courses- you have only your own apathy to blame. The Clintons were enabled by a host of Kool-Aid drinkers, and they are still with us, and will be forever.
The ecomomic bubble and phony "peace" of the nineteen-ninties are a merely a distant memory now- like those stocks that "could only go up"-- but the "Clinton Legacy" will linger for a long, long time.
LIVE THREAD: Hardball's 12 Missed Chances That Could Have Prevented 9/11 I'm glad to see this comparison to the 18 1/2 minutes of missing Nixon tape. I found myself thinking about it a lot today. I was only a teenager at the time, but it is my strongest recollection of the whole Watergate debacle. The press talked of little else during that time period. Yet, they think they can just ignore and coverup this "Soxgate" and think we won't notice? This is a matter of national security and far more damaging to our country.
Archives Staff Was Suspicious of Berger An
article from the Jewish World Review, January 2002 describes a two hour meeting at Bill Clinton's office in Harlem in which
Sandy Berger participated, the purpose of which meeting was to shore up Bill's image. Here is a quote from the
article . This meeting was also reported by the NYT.
There they were -- not all, but many of the familiar faces and voices (some participated via telephone) of the Clinton years: Maggie Williams, then Hillary Clinton's chief of staff, and now Bill's; confidante Bruce Lindsay; former national security advisor Sandy Berger; former energy secretary Bill Richardson; former deputy White House counsel Cheryl Mills; former Chief of Staff John D. Podesta and more.
The story was leaked through John Solomon; John Solomon, incidentally, is under subpoena in the Niger/Wilson/Plame Leak case along with a number of other reporters. As we know, Wilson, the husband of the 'agent number 9' Valerie Plame, is also a Kerry staffer. Why did Berger's big news go out through one of the same reporters as the Plame business- apparently with the full approval of both Berger and his lawyer?
info pertinent to berger-gate from the rest of the blog here .
UPDATE: Another reader wonders if the language in Kerry's speech in New Hampshire on December 17 or at UCLA is from the security memo. Well, if that could be proven, it would be pretty damning.
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posted on
07/22/2004 2:18:21 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(The 1990's? The Decade of Frauds...)
To: backhoe
Backhoe,
Do you know of any thread which has a good description of what the pilfered documents said?
Thanks,
Owen
To: OwenKellogg
Do you know of any thread which has a good description of what the pilfered documents saidOddly- or not so oddly- enough, that is the one thing missing in dozens of posts and thousands of replies.
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posted on
07/22/2004 2:46:09 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(-30-)
To: backhoe
Thanks twice backhoe.
Once, for the vast amount of information posted, by you and others.
And second, for forcing me to use vast amounts of p/c storage space, to keep these little treasures! ;)
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posted on
07/22/2004 3:27:40 AM PDT
by
G.Mason
(A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
To: G.Mason
Your encouraging & humorous words are appreciated- thanks!
46
posted on
07/22/2004 3:44:31 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(-30-)
To: All
Did Sandy Berger “Fry” Flight 800 Records? As this article is being written, a Federal appeals court is in session in Massachusetts. The topic is the secrecy over autopsy reports of the Flight 800 crash victims--
Our very own jmstein was on with Mark Levin last evening discussing this very issue.
Another revelation from Levin was that Lanny Davis once wrote that when the clinton administration wanted to get damaging information out they would leak it in the most favorable light to an AP reporter named Solomon. It is clear this was leaked by the left for reasons yet unclear to us.
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posted on
07/22/2004 5:11:17 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Sunset...)
To: backhoe
Excellent reference page..."bump" to save, and thanks!
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posted on
07/22/2004 10:11:36 AM PDT
by
88keys
To: 88keys; All
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posted on
07/22/2004 11:05:09 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Sunset...)
To: All
The Gauntlet Berger Ran at the National Archive Vault Also don't discount the effect FR and other uncontrolled news outlets will play in this story. Already FR is credited in several places with preserving evidence in this story - Kerry campaign immediately pulled Kerry's foreign policy position papers from its web site. But FR has for all the world to see what Kerry is trying to hide.
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posted on
07/22/2004 12:43:34 PM PDT
by
backhoe
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