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Sic Transit Gloria Mundi (Here, kitties! Live chow, a grad student no less).
1/31/2005 | Dmitry Chernikov

Posted on 01/31/2005 9:08:09 AM PST by dmitry_chernikov

I think that it has been well established that "conservatives" or whatever it is they call themselves these days (e.g., storm troopers) in matters concerning politics value little more than the state's power in which they imagine themselves to participate and the supposed glory that war and domestic national securitism brings to them. Now strictly speaking this is a delusion, because their only access to power lies in the accidental agreement of their opinions with those of the managers of the state. This access will evaporate as soon as the state does something that displeases our conservatives. It is always possible, of course, that I am giving these people too much credit and that due to the slavish devotion of conservatives to the Republican party as opposed to any kind of principles derived from economics, natural law, and suchlike, their opinions will simply change along with the policies advocated by the party so as to always be in accord with them.

Be that as it may, however, let us consider those peculiar human desires for power and glory. What are these things really? Does human happiness consist in them? And are they worth pursuing?

First, the definitions. (Active) power is the principle of acting upon something else. Glory means "renown; praise, honor, or distinction extended by common consent". Considering the matter from theistic perspective, it should be obvious that power as such is so attractive to people because it is precisely that which makes them most Godlike, for all things quite naturally desire to be like God, Who is their efficient and final cause. The trouble, however, is that "God's power is His goodness: hence He cannot use His power otherwise than well. But it is not so with men. Consequently it is not enough for man's happiness, that he become like God in power, unless he become like Him in goodness also." [1] So if the president, say, rules with an eye towards the common good, that is, the good shared by all citizens, then his power is undoubtedly a good and admirable thing. But if he does such things as unjustly invade foreign countries, damage the economy, curtail civil liberties, and intrude into the private affairs of individuals, businesses, and states, then his power is thereby being used in an evil manner. And it should be remembered that power is never an end in itself but rather a means to something else, namely, to doing good or goodness.

Further, we can divide power into creative, sustaining, and destructive. Ideally, the job of the federal government, assuming that we need it at all, is merely to preserve order, perhaps by arbitrating disputes between the states and other than that taking upon itself only ceremonial duties. It can never create wealth; it can only squander it or, worse, put the nation in debt. The vast majority of the advances to which we owe our standard of living have been brought into being and spread to the general public by private enterprise. As for destructive power, the feds have it in abundance, and they unleash it without too many qualms on both foreigners and (surely, soon) on the Americans themselves.

Another division of which we can think is power over man, to brainwash or beat him into submission, and power over nature. The question is, how can the state, which has exclusive power over man, be harsh to violent criminals only yet gentle to everyone else? Only a few short years ago conservatives were quoting phrases like "the price of liberty is eternal vigilance" (attributed to Thomas Jefferson), meaning eternal vigilance against the depredations of the government. Indeed, suppressing all liberties and crushing all opposition are occupational hazards of those in charge of the machinery of state. Today all that is forgotten, and the price of "liberty" is murder and mayhem and domestic interventionism in all aspects of life.

In Plato's Republic Socrates argues that in a good society men, being neither money- nor honor-loving, would shun public office and avoid taking power at all costs. For is it not better to receive benefits as a citizen than to dispense them as a ruler (in the form of justice and protection from violence)? The only reason why anyone would agree to run for office and take charge of a city or, by extension, a country, is fear of punishment; in particular, the fear of being ruled by an inferior or wicked man. What a contrast to the real world in which political power is greatly sought after for its own sake, and economic privileges richly flow to the friends of those running the state!

As for glory, it is rightfully given to those who overcome the trials given to them in life, not to those who exalt themselves at other people's expense.

Finally, consider the following before you choose to ally yourself with some center of political power thinking that this will make you secure and happy.

Now four general reasons may be given to prove that happiness consists in none of the foregoing external goods [wealth, fame, glory, and power]. First, because, since happiness is man's supreme good, it is incompatible with any evil. Now all the foregoing can be found both in good and in evil men. Secondly, because, since it is the nature of happiness to "satisfy of itself," as stated in Ethic. i, 7, having gained happiness, man cannot lack any needful good. But after acquiring any one of the foregoing, man may still lack many goods that are necessary to him; for instance, wisdom, bodily health, and such like. Thirdly, because, since happiness is the perfect good, no evil can accrue to anyone therefrom. This cannot be said of the foregoing: for it is written (Eccles. 5:12) that "riches" are sometimes "kept to the hurt of the owner"; and the same may be said of the other three. Fourthly, because man is ordained to happiness through principles that are in him; since he is ordained thereto naturally. Now the four goods mentioned above are due rather to external causes, and in most cases to fortune; for which reason they are called goods of fortune. Therefore it is evident that happiness nowise consists in the foregoing. [2]



[1] Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica, II-I, Q. 2, Art. 4

[2] Ibid.

Dmitry Chernikov is a graduate student in philosophy at Kent State University.


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To: Chi-townChief

Backwards, yes – but I’ll bet he made points with his advisors.


101 posted on 01/31/2005 9:35:32 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: dmitry_chernikov
if you wanted some sort of discusion, then your first sentence shouldn't have stated conservatives = storm troopers.

Anyone can get a piece of paper that has PHD on it - but that doesn't change how you illustrate yourself as ignorant and unimaginative

102 posted on 01/31/2005 9:36:13 AM PST by rface (Ashland, Missouri - Monthly Donor / Bad Speller)
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To: Petronski

103 posted on 01/31/2005 9:36:17 AM PST by Next_Time_NJ (NJ demorat exterminator)
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To: dmitry_chernikov
You little elitist POS, the people of Iraq have voted and shown the world that a$$holes like you are only worth a blue fingered salute.

Democracy Prevails In Iraq

104 posted on 01/31/2005 9:36:49 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a weapon of mass disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: dmitry_chernikov
Olly, olly, oxen free. Come out, come out, where ever you are!

I am surprised, with your advanced college education (sarcasm) that you are not sticking around to debate your post! What say you?

105 posted on 01/31/2005 9:37:31 AM PST by CAluvdubya (From the RED part of California)
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To: dmitry_chernikov

I see the dog ate your homework.

Pity.

106 posted on 01/31/2005 9:37:41 AM PST by afnamvet
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To: dmitry_chernikov

107 posted on 01/31/2005 9:37:57 AM PST by dfwright
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To: retrokitten

But didn't you hear? Guantanamo is America's Auschwitz! ( rolling eyes )

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1332683/posts

Can they discredit themselves anymore?


108 posted on 01/31/2005 9:38:20 AM PST by eyespysomething (I'm speechless here, but don't worry, it won't last long. Ask my husband.)
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To: dmitry_chernikov

109 posted on 01/31/2005 9:38:22 AM PST by WestCoastGal (Daytona 500 ~ 21 days! 14 days to the Shootout ~~Sr "If you can't take the speed get off the track")
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To: fairtrader

I like the pig. Pancakes and Sausage!


110 posted on 01/31/2005 9:38:32 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (If only I used my evil genius for good !)
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To: CAluvdubya

Philosophers don't debate. They don't deal with facts. It's "concepts"


111 posted on 01/31/2005 9:39:07 AM PST by Hoodlum91
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To: dmitry_chernikov
DUDE! You still haven't responded to ANY of the posts on here, some of which, clearly dismantle your entire thesis!

And as of this writing, you haven't been banned yet! What's wrong, so busy studying Nietzsche, Socrates, and Descartes that you haven't figured out how to click on the "Post Reply" yet?
112 posted on 01/31/2005 9:39:23 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: dmitry_chernikov

Hey Dima!! Ti bolshoi BOLOVAN!!!


113 posted on 01/31/2005 9:40:36 AM PST by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: conservonator
If it's not too late, see if you can get your money back, your "education" didn't take.

Oh, yeah, it did. That's the tragedy.

114 posted on 01/31/2005 9:41:27 AM PST by buccaneer81 (Rick Nash will score 50 goals this season ( if there is a season)
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To: Hoodlum91
It's just always more fun for the kitties to bat around a live rat than a dead one. Oh well, just another drive-by post.
115 posted on 01/31/2005 9:41:36 AM PST by CAluvdubya (From the RED part of California)
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To: dmitry_chernikov
"...it has been well established that "conservatives" or whatever it is they call themselves these days (e.g., storm troopers) in matters concerning politics value little more than the state's power..."

Your initial premise is incorrect. The situation you attribute to "conservatives" is, in fact, fascism. Fascism has long been popular throughout parts of Europe (and other places) and so you are probably extremely familiar with it. Since there are almost no Europeans who could be called "conservative" from an American perspective, your mistake may be genuine.

Conservatives have a deep suspicion of state controlled power structures. Although they will work actively with these structures on a few occasions, you will find them more often opposing these structures.

You may want to try to see how conservatives see themselves rather than relying on the definitions supplied by opposing groups. You also need to gain a better understanding of the role of theism in conservative thought. While many conservatives are theists, many are not.

116 posted on 01/31/2005 9:41:38 AM PST by Gingersnap
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To: dmitry_chernikov
hey now people, let's lay off the philosophy major bashing. I too am working on a PhD in philosophy, albeit not at such an illustrious institution as Kent State. Silly me, I had to end up doing metaphysics at Rutgers. To see how Rutgers' philosophy PhD program ranks compared to every Ivy League program as well as Kent State's click here. see you on the job market Dmitry! :)
117 posted on 01/31/2005 9:41:46 AM PST by sassbox
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To: dmitry_chernikov

Hello? Hello, Dmitry? Listen, I can't hear too well, do you suppose you could turn the music down just a little? Oh, that's much better. Yes. Fine, I can hear you now, Dmitry. Clear and plain and coming through fine. I'm coming through fine too, eh? Good, then. Well, then as you say, we're both coming through fine. Good. Well, it's good that you're fine and I'm fine. I agree with you. It's great to be fine.

Now then, Dmitry. You know how we've always talked about the possibility of something going wrong with the zot. The zot, Dmitry. The hydrogen zot. Well, now what happened is, one of our site moderators, he had a sort of, well, he went a little funny in the head. You know. Just a little . . . funny. And, uh, he went and did a silly thing. Well, I'll tell you what he did, he ordered his kittens . . . to attack your thread. Well, let me finish, Dmitry. Let me finish, Dmitry. Well, listen, how do you think I feel about it? Can you imagine how I feel about it, Dmitry?

118 posted on 01/31/2005 9:41:48 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (It's a friendly call. Of course it's a friendly call.)
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To: dmitry_chernikov
Hey Dmitry!

Don't you know it's not nice to be a hit and run poster? Where's your manners? Don't they teach you anything at Kent State?

Stick around, you might learn something. People are posting to you, you're supposed to reply.


119 posted on 01/31/2005 9:41:54 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: dmitry_chernikov


120 posted on 01/31/2005 9:41:58 AM PST by wolicy_ponk
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