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BILL MAHER WARNS DEMOCRATS: HILLARY WILL TAKE YOU OVER A CLIFF IN '08 (video clip)
Hardball | 2.17.06 | Mia T

Posted on 02/17/2006 8:01:45 PM PST by Mia T

BILL MAHER WARNS DEMOCRATS:
HILLARY WILL TAKE YOU OVER A CLIFF IN '08



First of all, she will never win the presidency. The people who are worrying about that should stop worrying. She will never be elected president of this country. The democrats should buddy up to that concept before they walk over the cliff with her in 2008.

Bill Maher
Hardball with Chris Matthews
February 14, 2006



'HIATUS' FOR HILLARY?

by Mia T, 02.02.06



The clintons, as is their wont, are now taking this proxy scheme to even more outrageous extremes.

The latest: an actual hillary clinton proxy presidency, populated on both sides of the camera by assorted rodham and clinton ex-staffers, sycophants and should-be felons, witness the latest hire.

'Commander-in-Chief,' a show that sets out to crown a 'queen,' instead exposes the kitschy simplemindedness of Hollywood fantasy and the special sway and shortsightedness of the pathologic ego.


Mia T, 10.27.05
THE DANGER OF RUNNING VICARIOUSLY
Bill O'Reilly chews up and spits out the hillary clinton candidacy
(clip included)



unning vicariously, as we have argued, has its risks.

What was supposed to be Hollywood propaganda to make a hillary presidency marginally palatable has instead become a parable about missus clinton's own dystopian future.

ABC announced the other day that it is pulling "Commander-in-Chief" off the air "until spring." Missus clinton's proxy presidency, you see, has been in a ratings free fall ever since "American Idol" took it on.

In a perverse life-mirrors-art moment, support for the real-life missus clinton's presidency has plummeted, too. This even sans Rudy, her real-life "American Idol" opponent.

'Ars artia gratis.' Please!

Samuel Goldwyn must be turning over in his grave....


 

It isn't that they can't see the solution. It is that they can't see the problem.

G. K. Chesterton

 

... While America appears not to be ready for a female president under any circumstances, the post-9/11 realities pose special problems for a female presidential candidate. Add to these the problems unique to missus clinton. The reviews make the mistake of focusing on the problems of the generic female presidential candidate running during ordinary times.

These are not ordinary times. America is waging the global War on Terror; the uncharted territory of asymmetric netherworlds is the battlefield; the enemy is brutal, subhuman; the threat of global conflagration is real.

Defeating the enemy isn't sufficient. For America to prevail, she must also defeat a retrograde, misogynous mindset. To successfully prosecute the War on Terror, it is essential that the collective patriarchal islamic culture perceives America as politically and militarily strong. Condi Rice excepted, this requirement presents an insurmountable hurdle for any female presidential candidate, and especially missus clinton, historically antimilitary--(an image, incidentally, that is only enhanced today by her clumsy, termagant parody of Thatcher), forever the pitiful victim, and, according to Dick Morris, "the biggest dove in the clinton administration."

It is ironic that had the clintons not failed utterly to fight terrorism... not failed to take bin Laden from Sudan... not failed repeatedly to decapitate a nascent, still stoppable al Qaeda... the generic female president as a construct would still be viable... missus clinton's obstacles would be limited largely to standard-issue clintonisms: corruption, abuse, malpractice, malfeasance, megalomania, rape and treason... and, in spite of Juanita Broaddrick, or perhaps because of her, Rod Lurie would be reduced to perversely hawking the "First Gentleman" instead of the "Commander-in-Chief."

Mia T, 10.02.05
HILLARY'S COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF PROBLEM
(see descriptor morphs)



January 9, 2006
Reviewer: miat22 (Mia T)


CLOSE ENCOUNTER OF THE WORST KIND

... to borrow a phrase, perversely, from a Spielberg flick about benign intelligence.

Munich -- Spielberg fantasy wrapped in sober documentary -- with its false premises, phony pieties and outright lies, is a verisimilitudinous contrivance that is pernicious, especially now, especially here, especially if we understand Spielberg's real motivation.

Truth matters not at all to Spielberg, and courage matters even less. To advance his fallacious argument, he has Golda Meir speak words she never said, never would have said and, obviously, cannot now disavow. Posthumous misappropriation is a preferred tactic of the abject coward.

Munich is less about Meir avenging the Munich massacre than it is about Bush waging the War on Terror. The historical (Munich) allusion is key to understanding Spielberg.

The core of his anti-war argument:
By fighting back, we become our enemy. Ironically, with Munich, the same can now be said of Spielberg.

Is Spielberg humanizing the terrorist really any different from Riefenstahl humanizing Hitler? If anything, Spielberg is more contemptible. Whereas Riefenstahl symbolizes the naïve actress and director who is induced to deal with devils, Spielberg is self-actuated and aware.

Hollywood is DreamWorks, fantastical and unthinking and solipsistic by definition.

To mitigate its danger, people capable of critical thinking must take on Hollywood... and must do so in Hollywood venues.

The printed word, sad to say, no longer carries the day.



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ON REJIGGING GALLUP'S LOSING NUMBERS FOR HILLARY
THE ALTERNATE UNIVERSE OF ANNE KORNBLUT

by Chris Matthews, Anne Kornblut + Dana Milbank

(with annotations by Mia T), 01.26.06



EXCERPT:

This is HARDBALL on MSNBC.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

[NOTE: My comments in blue.]

MATTHEWS:  We're back with Anne Kornblut of "The New York Times" and Dana Milbank of "The Washington Post."  Let's talk about Gotham's candidates for president.

First, Rudolph Giuliani, the pro-choice, pro-gay rights, former mayor spent today, or the day in Orlando speaking to a conference of Evangelicals. 

Dana, he's up to it, isn't he?  This is below the radar.  This is Rudy campaigning for president in the south. 

MILBANK:  This is about as convincing as Jerry Falwell at the gay pride parade. 

MATTHEWS:  You don't buy this? 

MILBANK:  Well, he can try to do it.  But, look, he faces an awful uphill battle in winning over the typical Republican voter in a primary.  Now, if the election was fought on national security, he is fine.  But he's never going to convince them that he is one of them, that he is a religious conservative. 

KORNBLUT:  Right and not only that, but he's going to be in a death struggle with John McCain for the exact same constituency. 

MATTHEWS:  Let me tell you something.  I'll say it here a thousand time.  Watch Rudolph Giuliani.  Watch him.  Security is the issue in this country.  Whoever is the next president is going to be seen as more on the ball than even this president on security and terrorism.  This country is not going sort on terrorism.  We are going to get smarter on it is my hunch.

And Rudy is the guy to do it.  And he can be an SOB in many ways.  But this country may really want an SOB, a really tough cop as the next president.  So watch Rudy, I'm saying it.


Now here is Hillary Clinton, that other New Yorker in the subway series.  A new Gallup poll just came out.  "USA TODAY" Gallup poll, it shows that 16 percent say that they'll definitely vote for Hillary right now, 32 percent say they might vote for her. 

But here's the dagger in the back.  Fifty-one percent say they would definitely not vote for Hillary Clinton already the campaign hasn't begun. 

KORNBLUT:  I mean, this is exactly what Democrats are worried about is that already people have made up their minds.  I would argue, I guess, that it is awfully early.  We all know how early it is to be talking about this. 

MATTHEWS:  Definitely. 

KORNBLUT:  Definitely?  What does definitely mean?  [Definitely means DEFINITELY.] You know, you would have to see how is the question exactly phrased, all that stuff.  It is early. [Actually Anne, it is late. In fact, it is too late. The country knows exactly who this woman is, Anne.]

MATTHEWS:  But there's lot of tooth behind that.  If somebody tells a pollster, I've already made up my mind definitely. 

KORNBLUT:  And, look, I know more Democrats who believe this though than Republicans.  A lot of Republicans say that this is a deceptive number, that once she gets out there with all of her money running against who, Giuliani or McCain, the numbers may not be that weak.  [She has 100% name recognition, Anne. You can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear. Even when the sow isn't hillary.]

MATTHEWS:  How much of that is don't throw me in that briar patch, Dana?  We're so afraid of Hillary.  Please don't run her against us.  She'll kill us. 

MILBANK:  Anne is right that these polls are completely useless because you don't know what the alternative is.  But the fact is that she...  [Earth to Dana: 51% would vote for their mother-in-law before they would vote for HER.]

MATTHEWS:  OK.  McCain against Hillary.  Who wins? 

 

MILBANK:  Well, that's fine.  If you can tell me that's how it is going to turn out.  But we don't know. 

MATTHEWS:  Well, let me ask you about these definite numbers in a poll.  Do you believe the definite?  Do you believe somebody right in 2006 knows how they are going to vote in 2008?

MILBANK:  I think they definitely think that's what they are going to do right now, but they have no idea what they are going to be doing in a couple years.  And Hillary is going to have the opposite problem of Rudy.  And that is she's absolutely fine with her base if she decides to run.  But she is seemingly incapable of crossing over. 

MATTHEWS:  The poll was taken over the week right through Sunday, the Gallup poll.  And the Gallup poll is, of course, the most prestigious poll there is right now and has been for years. 

Dana, do you think she's paying the price for her plantation remark last week? 

MILBANK:  Probably not.  Because, once again, plays very well the base.  The people who were objecting to it were never going to support her in the first case.  And I really think the only thing that this is right now is do people recognize her name.  [What is it you don't understand, here? We recognize her name, yes. And we abhor the person attached to that name. Get it?]

KORNBLUT:  And I would add to that.  It's 51 percent say definitely not.  Remember the margin that's we've been talking about in the last few presidential races, 51 percent is terrible, but all she would have to do is bump it by a few numbers, a few percentage points and be OK.  [I can see why Pinch hired you, Anne. Your Alice-in-Wonderland illogic is quintessential New York Times. With 100% name recognition and roughly 10% corruption recognition (thanks in no small measure to your rag), missus clinton has only one way to go. And it isn't up.]

... Anyway, thank you Anne Kornblut of "The New York Times," Dana Milbank of "The Washington Post." 

Join us again tomorrow night at 5:00 and 7:00 Eastern for more HARDBALL.  Right now it is time for "THE ABRAM'S REPORT" with Dan.

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

Copy: Content and programming copyright 2006 MSNBC.  ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 

HARDBALL WITH CHRIS MATTHEWS
January 25, 2006


December 7, 1941+64

AN OPEN LETTER TO TIM ROBBINS, DAVID GEFFEN, CHRIS MATTHEWS, MAUREEN DOWD + JEANINE PIRRO

RE: a not-so-modest proposal concerning hillary clinton



Dear Concerned Americans,

Hillary Clinton's revisionist tome notwithstanding, 'living history' begets a certain symmetry. It is in that light that I make this not-so-modest proposal on this day, exactly 64 years after the attack on Pearl Harbor.

The context of our concern today--regardless of political affiliation--is Iraq and The War on Terror, but the larger fear is that our democracy may not survive.

We have the requisite machines, power and know-how to defeat the enemy in Iraq and elsewhere, but do we have the will?

In particular, do we have the will to identify and defeat the enemy in our midst?

Answerable to no one, heir apparent in her own mind, self-serving in the extreme, Hillary Clinton incarnates this insidious new threat to our survival.

What we decide to do about Missus Clinton will tell us much about what awaits us in these perilous new times.

COMPLETE LETTER

December 7, 1941+64
Mia T
AN OPEN LETTER TO TIM ROBBINS, DAVID GEFFEN, CHRIS MATTHEWS, MAUREEN DOWD + JEANINE PIRRO
RE: a not-so-modest proposal concerning hillary clinton



'HIATUS' FOR HILLARY?


IS REUTERS SENDING A MESSAGE ABOUT A COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF HILLARY?


HILLARY'S EXPOSED LEFT FLANK 'SCARES THE HORSES' (VIDEO)
(MISSUS CLINTON SUPPORTS ALITO FILIBUSTER)


ON REJIGGING GALLUP'S LOSING NUMBERS FOR HILLARY
THE ALTERNATE UNIVERSE OF ANNE KORNBLUT



CLINTON 'CULTURE OF CORRUPTION'


SEE VIDEO: "HILLARY IS 'DOOMED'" (more 'plantation' fallout)


GONE WITH THE WIND
(miss hillary's 'plantation' blunder)


WHY HILLARY MUST NOT WIN. WHY HILLARY CANNOT WIN.


IMPERIOUS HILLARY
(THE REPORTS OF HER DEATH ARE GREATLY UNDERSTATED)



WAR AND TREASON AND THE NEW YORK TIMES
(Please see post 65)


REDACTION LOOPHOLE: ACCESS TO THE BARRETT REPORT


HILLARY CLINTON KNEW ABOUT THE RAPE: HEAR JUANITA BROADDRICK


ROCKEFELLER SEDITION: WHO IS CALLING THE SHOTS?


THE ABSURDITY OF A COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF HILLARY


CROOKS PARDONING CROOKS PARDONING CROOKS:
Justice Undone in the clinton White House


clintonCORRUPTION: the more things change. . . .


Alien Abductions, Flying Saucers + Other Weird Phenomena, c.1992-2000


THE 'BOARD,' BEFUDDLED POLITICS OF JOHN KERRY RETURNS
CALLS FOR ALITO FILIBUSTER FROM 'SKI SLOPES'



IT TAKES A CLINTON TO RAZE A COUNTRY

COPYRIGHT MIA T 2006



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1 posted on 02/17/2006 8:01:53 PM PST by Mia T
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To: Wolverine

ping


2 posted on 02/17/2006 8:04:12 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
BTTT

Cheers,

knewshound
3 posted on 02/17/2006 8:05:18 PM PST by knews_hound (Now with two handed typing !)
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To: jla; WorkingClassFilth; Gail Wynand; Brian Allen; Lonesome in Massachussets; IVote2; Slyfox; ...

ping


4 posted on 02/17/2006 8:05:47 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

SHHHHHHHHH!!!


5 posted on 02/17/2006 8:07:42 PM PST by D.P.Roberts
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To: knews_hound

thanx :)


6 posted on 02/17/2006 8:07:48 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
Mia

I just want to thank you for all of your hard work in keeping track of the witch and putting all of these excellant posts together. Thank you.

7 posted on 02/17/2006 8:09:29 PM PST by Grenada
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To: Mia T

Mia, you're letting the cat out of the bag. We WANT the RATS to nominate someone with a 51% disapproval rating!


8 posted on 02/17/2006 8:09:55 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Mia T

The clintons have already taken the Party over the cliff - as evidenced by the '94 congressional elections.

They just haven't hit bottom yet.

That will happen in '08.


9 posted on 02/17/2006 8:13:36 PM PST by wingman1 (University of Vietnam 1970. Forget? Hell.)
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To: Mia T

No, no, no, he`s got it wrong, Hillorat for President.
All of America needs her to win the Rat nomination.


10 posted on 02/17/2006 8:15:07 PM PST by bybybill (If the Rats win, we are doomed)
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To: Mia T

ummmm... which of these clips should I click first to see if it's really my cup of tea?

-- Joe


11 posted on 02/17/2006 8:18:59 PM PST by Joe Republc
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To: Mia T
If the beast arranges a "tragic end" for the bent one, she will run much stronger. She is capable of doing this and not losing a second of sleep.
12 posted on 02/17/2006 8:24:02 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Mia T

Bill Maher is wrong on everything. Let's hope this is one thing he is right about.


13 posted on 02/17/2006 8:24:06 PM PST by planekT (<- http://www.wadejacoby.com/pedro/ ->)
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To: Mia T

For the record, "Commander in Chief" wasn't killed by "American Idol;" that just delivered the death blow. CIC's ratings had gone into a free fall several weeks before the new season of "A.I." began. I kept up with it because I was concerned that all the free PR the MSM was giving it might hurt my favorite show, "House," which was opposite it. But PR can only make people sample a lousy show, not watch it week after week; and the good (okay, bad) Doctor House kicked the faux Hillary's butt the same way he does his hospital staff's.


14 posted on 02/17/2006 8:24:45 PM PST by HHFi
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To: D.P.Roberts

Cliff or no cliff, I don't want her on the ticket. We don't have the luxury of time or circumstance to endure another clinton. We barely (if at all) survived the first.

In a rationally-based and reasonably uncorrupted election, I agree with Maher-- she could never win. But that's asking a lot of an American election--especially one with a clinton on the ballot.


15 posted on 02/17/2006 8:25:47 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
Maher is a flamer that occasionally has a clue. She's ( Hill) is a cold fish and even the mildly brain dead and apathetic have observed .
16 posted on 02/17/2006 8:26:58 PM PST by lizma
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To: ozzymandus; bybybill

fyi


17 posted on 02/17/2006 8:30:03 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Grenada

thanx :)


18 posted on 02/17/2006 8:31:19 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
What Maher says would be true IF massive democrat voter fraud was not always present and will really be present in 2008..

Would be different if ANY republican offical cared about it.. They DON'T.. therefore it is being planned and will be executed in spades.. in 2008.. Treason and voter fraud are merely political tactics these days.. legal by neglect of prosecution.. Washington D.C. is political BIZARRO WORLD..

19 posted on 02/17/2006 8:38:53 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: wingman1

the clintons have killed the party. I think the smart money knows this and that's why we're getting things like the Gallup poll and the (vampiric) Reuters photo.

There are multiple coups in the works. Many Ds resent hillary's self-anointment.

Who is supporting hillary, anyway. I say she has a constituency of zero. (I suspect not even hillary is for hillary.)


20 posted on 02/17/2006 8:43:11 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
Thanks for the ping.
I've no comment on this thread's topic but I do have a questions:

1. What differentiates the Clintons from other liberal Dems, like Kerry, Biden, Warner, and any others that may seek the Dem '08 nomination?

2. You have only ever mentioned, in your opinion, suitable opponents to defeat the Dems in '08 as Giuliani, Rice, and Romney.
What compels you to believe these folks capable of leading the nation in the war on terror?
And do you not think Mike Pence or George Allen equal to that task?

21 posted on 02/17/2006 8:44:46 PM PST by jla (Urge Mike Pence to run for POTUS in '08: www.house.gov/formpence/IMA/contact.htm)
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To: HHFi

thx ;)


22 posted on 02/17/2006 8:45:33 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

Thanks for all your work in exposing the ooze surrounding the slime of what is Scumbag and Scumbagette.

All decent Americans owe you their gratitude.


23 posted on 02/17/2006 8:49:14 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: Mia T
There will be no stopping the lemmings from electing billary as their candidate
24 posted on 02/17/2006 8:52:08 PM PST by Steveone (Paradise is a World free of Liberals.)
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To: HHFi
I love to watch "House", but you couldn't get me into that hospital as long as I was conscious.
25 posted on 02/17/2006 8:52:23 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: jla

I think Giuliani is the only one of the bunch who has both a proven record and the requisite skill sets.


26 posted on 02/17/2006 8:52:53 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
I'm not concerned about Mrs. Bill Clinton. I hope she costs them a lot of money also.

Any comfortable, mild-mannered Republican can say the right words that would send her into one of those riffs that make her sound like somebody's 1st 3 wives rolled into one!

27 posted on 02/17/2006 8:56:30 PM PST by BobS
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To: Mia T

No even small connection to any foregin policy knowledge or background.


28 posted on 02/17/2006 8:57:42 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (I am soooo sick of Oprah!!!! Oprah, STFU !)
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To: Mia T
>>Cliff or no cliff, I don't want her on the ticket. We don't have the luxury of time or circumstance to endure another clinton. We barely (if at all) survived the first.<<
I totally agree. One itty bitty problem via our borders and the media will call for Dubya's head. With justification for once.
29 posted on 02/17/2006 9:00:41 PM PST by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: Mia T
...proven record and the requisite skill sets.

Could you be more explicit? What exactly is his proven record? And please expound on his skill sets, as they apply to being POTUS.
And do you believe Pence or Allen not capable?

30 posted on 02/17/2006 9:01:23 PM PST by jla (Urge Mike Pence to run for POTUS in '08: www.house.gov/formpence/IMA/contact.htm)
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To: hosepipe

Excellent.

See #15.


31 posted on 02/17/2006 9:02:35 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: jla

A few highlights:

1-One of the most successful mayors of New York, which, when it became bin Laden's bullseye, took on a global character.

2-One of the most persuasive speakers on the American scene

3-knows how to nail the bad guys (prosecutor, US attorney, etc.)

I don't know if Pence or Allen is capable. My point is that Rudy, and only Rudy, has a proven that he is.


32 posted on 02/17/2006 9:14:50 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

I don;t want her on the ticket either, Mia.

Our country cannot endure her. In fact, the GOP has to hold the WH or we'll be in deep trouble. And I mean DEEP trouble.


33 posted on 02/17/2006 9:16:57 PM PST by onyx (IF ONLY 10% of Muslims are radical, that's still 120 MILLION who want to kill us.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

#32 fyi


34 posted on 02/17/2006 9:17:39 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

Bill who?


35 posted on 02/17/2006 9:18:00 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God is giving you countless observable clues of His existence!)
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To: Mia T

Thanks Mia. Sam Goldwyn knew about hellsows. The least explicit thing he would say about this candidacy might be "Include me out!"


36 posted on 02/17/2006 9:18:01 PM PST by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: Mia T
BILL MAHER WARNS DEMOCRATS: HILLARY WILL TAKE YOU OVER A CLIFF IN '08

Take them there?? The dhimmicrats are already at the bottom of the cliff and now they are digging.
37 posted on 02/17/2006 9:19:22 PM PST by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned.)
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To: kb2614

touché ;)


38 posted on 02/17/2006 9:21:10 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

And Rudy is the guy to do it. And he can be an SOB in many ways. But this country may really want an SOB, a really tough cop as the next president. So watch Rudy, I'm saying it.




Chrissy stop it. We are not going to let you pick our next niminee. It sure as a heart attack won't be Rudy. And don't count on your best friend McCain either. The more the media pushes this douche the more repubs recoil.


39 posted on 02/17/2006 9:25:01 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Islam, Religion of Peace and they'll kill you to prove it.)
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To: Mia T

I think Giuliani is the only one of the bunch who has both a proven record and the requisite skill sets



Take away his tough history on crime and you have what?


A liberal democrat


40 posted on 02/17/2006 9:29:21 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Islam, Religion of Peace and they'll kill you to prove it.)
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To: Mia T

Seeing how close that traitor Kerry came I don't think you could count Hillary out.


41 posted on 02/17/2006 10:00:54 PM PST by Rumple4
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To: Mia T

There you go, folks. Who could doubt this man's qualifications to be the next president of the United States?
In addition to these sterling attributes, Rudy also:


42 posted on 02/17/2006 10:05:38 PM PST by jla (Urge Mike Pence to run for POTUS in '08: www.house.gov/formpence/IMA/contact.htm)
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To: ncountylee
"If the beast arranges a "tragic end" for the bent one, she will run much stronger. She is capable of doing this and not losing a second of sleep."

I predict a massive heart attack.

43 posted on 02/17/2006 10:11:33 PM PST by de Buillion (Give us your perverts, pedophiles, and sodomites. San Francisco wants YOU!)
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To: planekT

"The people who are worrying about that should stop worrying. "
I wouldn't stop worrying until AFTER she looses in 08. She is very dangerous and I wouldn't slight herin the least. We do so at our own peril.


44 posted on 02/17/2006 10:16:07 PM PST by binkdeville
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To: jla

The ONLY real issue is terrorism and on that end rudy is excellent. As president he wont have any real say in changing gun laws .


45 posted on 02/17/2006 10:18:49 PM PST by binkdeville
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To: binkdeville
The ONLY real issue is terrorism and on that end rudy is excellent.

Two questions for you, Binkdeville:

1. Why is Rudy "excellent"?
2. Wouldn't Mike Pence or George Allen be just as, if not more, capable than Giuliani?

46 posted on 02/17/2006 10:23:55 PM PST by jla (Urge Mike Pence to run for POTUS in '08: www.house.gov/formpence/IMA/contact.htm)
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To: binkdeville

...by the way, with a pistol barrel held against my head I wouldn't vote for Rudy Giuliani.


47 posted on 02/17/2006 10:26:37 PM PST by jla (Urge Mike Pence to run for POTUS in '08: www.house.gov/formpence/IMA/contact.htm)
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To: planekT
Let's hope this is one thing he is right about.

He is.

48 posted on 02/17/2006 10:35:32 PM PST by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: jla

I googled mike pence. mikepence.com says he's from the 6th cong dist of KY. All other references say he is from 6th cong dist of IN. Is he lost?


49 posted on 02/17/2006 10:37:14 PM PST by de Buillion (Give us your perverts, pedophiles, and sodomites. San Francisco wants YOU!)
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To: Mia T

Please nobody listen to Bill. Let her run.


50 posted on 02/17/2006 10:38:10 PM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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