Posted on 03/23/2007 7:05:34 PM PDT by Pro-Bush
The Arizona Daily Star Published: 03.23.2007
UFOs flew over Phoenix in '97, Symington says By Tom Beal ARIZONA DAILY STAR
"The universe is a big place, and we're conceited to think we're alone." Fife Symington, former Ariz. governor Former Gov. Fife Symington says now that those strange lights that appeared over Phoenix a decade ago were from another world and that he had a close encounter with an alien craft on March 13, 1997.
"I'm a pilot and I know just about every machine that flies. It was bigger than anything that I've ever seen. It remains a great mystery. Other people saw it, responsible people," Symington said Thursday. "I don't know why people would ridicule it."
Symington, who was in his second term as governor of Arizona during the Phoenix Lights incident, recently told a UFO investigator making a documentary that he had kept quiet about his personal close encounter because he didn't want to panic the populace. He repeated his story Thursday on CNN, saying the craft he saw was "enormous. It just felt other-worldly. In your gut, you could just tell it was other-worldly."
(Excerpt) Read more at azstarnet.com ...
Impressive as usual.
Thanks for your hard work and your expert knowledge in such areas.
Very helpful to the topic.
Uncle Welko Gasich considered Jack Northrup a god in the aircraft creativity realm.
There were two events that day in Phoenix. The first involved a gigantic triangular shaped flying thing which over-flew the city, then hours later the lights seen over the surrounding mountains. Sym apparently witnessed the first event and 'may have' witnessed the lights later. In any event, he certainly tried to ridicule the notion of an extra-terrestrial craft over the Phoenix area. Now, for some strange reason known only to him, he is recanting his earlier ridicule.
Your reference doesn't seem to support an actual prophecy involving Herod. Your original post strongly implied that texts mentioning Herod have been carbon dated to 200 B.C. I haven't seen any evidence for this.
"It sounds like you have an open mind and sees both sides to an issue.
Let me guess, you're a Libra."
Oooooooooooo You are good. Yep I'm an October baby.
Thanks MHG:
There were two events that day in Phoenix. The first involved a gigantic triangular shaped flying thing which over-flew the city, then hours later the lights seen over the surrounding mountains. Sym apparently witnessed the first event and 'may have' witnessed the lights later. In any event, he certainly tried to ridicule the notion of an extra-terrestrial craft over the Phoenix area. Now, for some strange reason known only to him, he is recanting his earlier ridicule.
Am going to TRY and transfer my comments to this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1806377/posts?page=51#51
Keeping the 3 threads separate and straight is getting more troublesome than I want to bother with. The topics are overlapping enough to be virtually the same.
The many prophesies concerning the Messiah don't specify the Name He was appointed when He was enfleshed, the date or address, His parents' names and so on. If they did, everyone would have known Him. The prophesies instead gave clues to all these things. God always hides Truth in plain sight.
Likewise are prophesies concerning other characters, nations and events.
For instance, in the following passage - Alexander the Great is not named, but the vast majority of scholars understand of whom Daniel is speaking:
Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he [was] wounded for our transgressions, [he was] bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace [was] upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither [was any] deceit in his mouth.
Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put [him] to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see [his] seed, he shall prolong [his] days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. He shall see of the travail of his soul, [and] shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. Therefore will I divide him [a portion] with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Likewise, even though Herod is not named in Enoch - most scholars understood him to be the character and his the time being spoken of in Enoch. And for that reason, they presumed Enoch was written during his rule or shortly thereafter. But that was before the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls.
Hey, I understood!
Great having it spelled out so clearly.
Thanks.
USAF F15s Encounter a UFO
On Friday, January 12th 2007, London Military Air Traffic Control contacted a flight of US Air Force F-15s out of RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, UK, to intercept an unknown target they had picked up on radar at 3000 to 4000ft altitude.
The F-15s, call-sign Gator, went to investigate, and got a solid radar-lock on the unidentified target.
They made two passes and passed the object, which was at 17,000ft on the first pass and then 17,700ft on the second pass. They described it as black in colour and stated that it was not a bird and unlike any aircraft they had ever seen.
One pilot was heard to say to another: "Did you see that?" And the other replied:
"Yes, but I don't want to talk about it."
An audio file is being analysed by UFO Monitors East Kent, and UFO Data Magazine, from the air-to-air communications by the crews of the F-15s.
UFO Monitors East Kent, here in Kent, England, along with UFO Data Magazine are making enquiries into the incident and are hoping to make representations under the US and UK Freedom of Information Acts.
This looks like an intriguing case, especially as the incident was recorded by radio monitors here in the UK.
Chris Rolfe
UFO Monitors East Kent
Folkestone, Kent UK.
The audio clip can be downloaded by clicking here (audio link is at the bottom of the .pdf file.)
http://www.ufodata.co.uk/pdf/USAF_F15s_Encounter_a_UFO.pdf
Very interesting audio. I wish they would have come out and stated what they saw instead of tip-toeing around it. Thank you for posting this.
Thanks and for the heads up on Whitley's journal.
All,
Will be posting Whitley Strieber's journal for 24 Mar 07 on the Aztec Symposium thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1806377/posts
It is one of his best journals in a while, imho.
Thanks to Dave for the heads up.
Thank you Dave.
Two things, Quix: Symington will be on the first hour of C2C tonight, and the DOD has a very large lifting body shaped dirigible which may be the thing being seen in the 'triangle sightings'.
Thanks.
I think the large dirigible is not likely in this case given the 17:30 sighting of 3 large craft pancaking on top of each other and then all disappearing instantly in a huge bright flash of light.
But I wasn't there! LOL.
The 30-40 mph sounds a bit like a dirigible but also like a lot of UFO's.
Thanks.
It's late here in the East. I listened to Fife and don't find him credible, especially since he made such an effort back then to ridicule and has not given any reason for why he did that if he actually saw a clear UFO and not flares or a flight of A-10s.
Interesting.
I think my step-dad thinks that ALL politicians have the morality of a tomcat with a sex addiction.
I can allow Fife to change his tune. But being wholesale forthright and candid would have been better.
Though I wonder what kind of pressures he's under from the powers that be.
Did he trot out his new view at their instructions--with other instructions to go no further. Or what?
There's certainly been a very calculated incremental escalation of disclosure BITS the last 6 months.
HOpe to post some excerpts from ALIEN ENCOUNTERS by Chuck Missler and Mark Eastman by and by.
Essentially they are documenting the enormous similarities between demonic stuff and so called ET stuff. And, have lots of Scriptural & other support for my own conclusions about them being involved in helping bring in the satanic globalist government in our era.
Anyway--interesting topic.
Thanks for your kind response.
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