Yes you will. The Rudybots demand it. Rudy will be us a glorious new world. You have not choice you must vote for Ruuuuuuuudy
Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.
One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.
All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.
FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?
Do you really expect me to do that?
Yes you will. The Rudybots demand it. Rudy will be us a glorious new world. You have not choice you must vote for Ruuuuuuuudy
Mr. Robinson,
First off, THANK YOU, or the forum you have provided us, the conservatives in this country.
I hear and understand the concerns and ‘anger’ you have expressed about the possible ‘Giuliani’ nomination. I agree with them.
I hold this site as a gift.
I had hoped that W would move the country closer to being what is was originally intended to be, and used to be. Domestically, W has been a disaster. Foriegn policy wise, he’s pretty much spot-on.
Social Security reform-failed.
Reduction of Government-Failed
Border control-Failed
Return of education to the States:abolition of DOEd-failed(non-started?)
Prescription Drug Benefit?- Well, that flew. The Lefties hated it because it didn’t go FAR ENOUGH.
So, should we now support Giuliani, just to keep the HildyBeast out of office? Rudy is NOT a conservative. With all due respect to those on FR the support him, he is just NOT someone that should carry our banner forward.
Who? I hope Fred Thompson formalizes his candidacy. I will support that with time and treasure. At the same time I hope that more REAL conservatives will speak out, unafraid of PC-constraints. Unafraid of the MSM/DBM/lefty media. And go for office.
I agree Jim, and FReepers, do not support Rudy. He is NOT of us. He will not move us towards our goal. He will, I think, betray us.
Just my 0.02 to the founder of the finest website on the planet.
What are you talking about? Socons are the ones who are fighting hardest against faux conservatives like rudy.
[But I would vote for a trained chimpanzee if it meant keeping Hillary out of the White House.]
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That’s the right approach, Veronica. This thread is just bait to ban people.
Some Freepers in the Giuliani camp are quick to play the victim card, when in reality, they give as good as they get.
If Hillary becomes president because Rudy Giuliani is the Republican nominee, it will be the liberal Republicans’ fault for not nominating someone who motivates the conservative base.
And what if Romney becomes the head of the Republican party?
A long shot, I know, but where do you stand on his candidacy?
WooHoo!
I can’t believe it took nine years either.
Somehow, I don't think you are sorry enough. ;O)
You pick the candidate in the primaries that most closely resembles your views. If you think Rudy will be the best President, vote for him. But you are voting for him based on electability you are going to lose every time.
***Good point. Well said, worth repeating.
Bump!!
Sad that posting the truth about Reagan is considered anti-Reagan. Ya’ll have hysterics when I remind freepers that Reagan signed an amnesty bill.
Buh^ump.
That's some serious stuff you're talking there. I supported Arnold, but remember his "Hillary" was a guy named Cruz Bustamonte, a MeCHa racist wingnut liberal; the prospect of Bustamonte as Governor of California during the second Dubya election, was pretty ugly. No matter what the McClintock folks tell you, it was either Cruz or Arnold.
Arnold's still better than Cruz, but that ain't saying much. I just can't respect the intellectual acumen of anybody who buys into minimum wage hikes and global warming environmentalism. Give me a break.
A consolation is that Cruz would have been worse, especially with regard to illegal immigration and racial favoritism.
Arnold "Never Trust an Austrian" Schwarzenegger is only governor of California. But he's all it takes to tell me that Giulini as President of the United States would be a bad risk. Seriously, I think about the opposition, no matter which candidate, Gore, Hillary, Obama?? Edwards? They are all of them as worthless as paper towels and whoever won would become the most loathed president in history. They're frauds and people would find out fast.
Rudy would be worse. He's not a fraud, he's mostly liberal. He'd do what Jim Robinson eloquently describes -- deeply erode the main-message Republican values. They're values that appeal to thousands of Democrats who don't know that they're really Republicans, but they know what they like when the see it. Republicans don't need to go left to win.
“Do you really expect me to do that?”
Um... No.
What do I win?
What conserns me is how many so called conservatives have bought into the baseless idea that only Rudy can win, when in reality, he is the LEAST able to do so. If we run a left wing Republican against a left wing Democrat, the conservatives will not vote, and the Reagan Democrats will vote their own ticket.
Amen!
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