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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: arasina

I’ve never like the idea of compassionate conservatism and have always said so. I prefer plain old fashioned type of conservatism without the excuses for liberalism.


2,721 posted on 04/22/2007 2:13:38 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Luke21
Oh stop the victimhood. We aren’t going to come through the walls and eat you. Defend your point of view, smile and move on.

THIS is speaking to me 'in peace??' Give me a break!

Don't insult and then act offended when you are called on what you're doing. LOL! It makes you look kinda wimpy.

IF you want to speak 'in peace' just do so. Just because you didn't put 'a name' in your condescending post doesn't mean you didn't insult me.

And give up on the dopey "Liberal" accusation. It's negates any point you might have had........which, as far as I can tell beyond your obvious intent to insult me, was none.

2,722 posted on 04/22/2007 2:13:48 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: ohioWfan
Just for the record, Peach is one of the finest human beings to ever post on this forum.

Well said, ohioWfan. Both Peach and Mia T. were always very gracious toward everyone.

And please thank your fine son for his service.
2,723 posted on 04/22/2007 2:13:51 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Delphinium

No. Because of the vile ways in which the intolerance is carried out.


2,724 posted on 04/22/2007 2:14:42 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: Shelayne

Thanks for the intelligent response. It makes sense biblically. I still don’t think that my religious beliefs should be forced on others, though. Medically and ethically the beginning of human life has not been established to any degree of agreement. The majority of Americans is not going to come around to the side of those who would ban the pill because on rare occasions it allows ovulation with subsequent prevention of implantation.


2,725 posted on 04/22/2007 2:15:06 PM PDT by Spyder (The "Hate Giuliani Syndrome." Like Bush Delusional Syndrome, a cure is yet to be found.)
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To: ohioWfan

I am not offended. Give it back. Come on. I love heated discussion with liberal trolls. I laugh as I type.

Give me some more.


2,726 posted on 04/22/2007 2:15:19 PM PDT by Luke21 (No Rudy. No way.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Cool.


2,727 posted on 04/22/2007 2:15:29 PM PDT by fatima (Shut up Murtha)
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To: 68 grunt

You don’t even know me. You always turn on me, or some other FReeper, whenever you’re on a thread where you wish you had the courage to tell JR the nasty things you say about him at other sites. You’re a coward and a fake.


2,728 posted on 04/22/2007 2:15:33 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: MACVSOG68

Peach wasn’t suspended because she supports Guiliani, and I think you know that. She got as obnoxious as she could with the topic of conservatism and pushed the envelope with the very person who could suspend her. She got exactly what she asked for — nothing more, nothing less. My only surprise what that it took as long as it did. I don’t revel in her suspension or banishment, but I certainly understand and support it.


2,729 posted on 04/22/2007 2:15:50 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: narses
I have not on this thread, nor ever supported Rudy.

But thanks for the spam. It goes well with cheese whiz.

2,730 posted on 04/22/2007 2:16:11 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: woofie

2,731 posted on 04/22/2007 2:16:31 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: Jim Robinson
Great plan. We have lots of freepers who are very good at this type of thing.

We will need to use registered entity ala the Swift Boat Vets because we will get no help from the National GOP.

And that register entity will have to raise lots of money, but that's possible.

Thanks,we really need to work as a team.
2,732 posted on 04/22/2007 2:17:33 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: ohioWfan

ohioWfan,reconsider leaving and take a few days off to think about it.


2,733 posted on 04/22/2007 2:18:07 PM PDT by fatima (Shut up Murtha)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
God is not here.

Oh my. Could you please post a link to where He is?

2,734 posted on 04/22/2007 2:18:25 PM PDT by don-o (Proudly posting without reading the thread since 1998.)
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To: ohioWfan

See 2731. Facts are not spam. Your son volunteered. Rudy gamed the system. Your son is a hero. Rudy is a thug.


2,735 posted on 04/22/2007 2:18:31 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: California Patriot

IBTZ!!


2,736 posted on 04/22/2007 2:18:37 PM PDT by TommyDale ("Can debate over four hours with no need to call a doctor!")
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To: narses

Thanks, narses, I needed to see that for the 1000th time. I misses it the first 999 spams.


2,737 posted on 04/22/2007 2:18:39 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Luke21
Sorry, Lukey. I haven't taught Jr High for years, and am not interested in ever going back.

I'll stick with conversations with conservative adults while you stick your tongue out at me......

2,738 posted on 04/22/2007 2:18:39 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: NautiNurse; Cincinatus' Wife; tkathy; Howlin
You all still here? The Rudy caucus is shrinking by the second...

MiaT and Peach were huge hits.

2,739 posted on 04/22/2007 2:18:54 PM PDT by Jim Noble (We don't need to know what Cho thought. We need to know what Librescu thought.)
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To: Delphinium

I’m still wagering we can insult each other all the way to 5.000 posts. Let me grab a few more rotten veggies from over here... :D


2,740 posted on 04/22/2007 2:19:14 PM PDT by Luke21 (No Rudy. No way.)
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