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Noah's Ark Flood Spurred European Farming
Reuters) ^ | Nov 17, 2007 | Maggie Fox and Catherine Evans

Posted on 11/18/2007 8:58:45 AM PST by anymouse

An ancient flood some say could be the origin of the story of Noah's Ark may have helped the spread of agriculture in Europe 8,300 years ago by scattering the continent's earliest farmers, researchers said on Sunday.

Using radiocarbon dating and archaeological evidence, a British team showed the collapse of the North American ice sheet, which raised global sea levels by as much as 1.4 meters, displaced tens of thousands of people in southeastern Europe who carried farming skills to their new homes.

The researchers said in the journal Quaternary Science Reviews their study provides direct evidence linking the flood that breached a ridge keeping the Mediterranean apart from the Black Sea to the rise of farming in Europe.

"The flooding of the Black Sea was not well dated but we got it down to about 50 years," said Chris Turney, a geologist at the University of Exeter, who led the study. "As soon as the flooding is done, farming goes crazy across Europe."

The researchers created reconstructions of the Mediterranean and Black Sea shoreline before and after the rise in sea levels. They estimated the flood covered some 73,000 square kilometers over a 34-year period, causing mass displacement of people.

Previous archaeological evidence has shown communities in the region were already farming when the flood hit. The Exeter team suggests the mass migration caused a sudden expansion of farming and pottery production across the continent.

"We looked at all the earliest data on farming in Europe and we found a little bit of farming in Greece and the Balkans just before the flood," Turney said in a telephone interview. "When the flood happened, farming seemed to stop but it was re-established a generation later across Europe."

The researchers believe these people took their skills to new areas previously populated by hunters and gatherers where there had been no evidence of farming, Turney said.

The study also underscores the potential impact rising sea levels may have in the future, the researchers said. An expected one meter rise by the end of the century due to climate change would displace some 145 million people, Turney added.

It also paints a picture of the kind of mass disruption that has prompted some scientists to link the ancient flood to the origins of the biblical story of Noah's Ark, Turney said.

"When the Black Sea flooded at end of last ice age some people have suggested it was the origins of the Noah's Ark myth," he said. "If you lived in that basin it would have seemed like the whole world had flooded."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: agriculture; animalhusbandry; bible; blacksea; blackseaflood; catastrophism; danuberiver; europe; flood; ggg; globalwarming; globalwhining; godsgravesglyphs; grandcanyon; greatflood; liviugiosan; noah; noahsark; noahsflood; walterpitman; williamryan
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To: stormer
I think a great deal of the Bible's borrowings, it's metaphor and simile, it's law and narrative contributed like no other work before or since to bring Ethical Monotheism to the mind of Man.

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth...."

"If I knew God I'd be Him." But I know enough from His creation that it's good, and that we should strive for goodness therein.

21 posted on 11/18/2007 9:59:17 AM PST by onedoug
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To: anymouse
the collapse of the North American ice sheet, which raised global sea levels by as much as 1.4 meters, displaced tens of thousands of people in southeastern Europe

Sounds like "global warming" to me. And to think, they did it all without automobiles, industrialization, carbon offsets, and all the "evils" of big business, George W. Bush, America, and Western civilization.

22 posted on 11/18/2007 10:01:55 AM PST by wai-ming
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To: Callahan
I'm a little shaky on my Noah story, but it's my understanding that god was pissed at humans and wanted to get rid of all of them except Noah and his family. If that's the case, rather than having a big storm, why no just "blink" them into nonexistence, kind of like Jeanie?


23 posted on 11/18/2007 10:02:53 AM PST by stormer
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To: onedoug

I appreciate your thoughtful reply. I fail to understand how any modern human can conceivably interpret the Bible literally, yet it is done constantly.


24 posted on 11/18/2007 10:05:57 AM PST by stormer
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To: Callahan
God placed all the animals in suspended animation ................ God could have shrunk them to amoeba size. If he left them the normal size he'd need an Ark the size of Manhattan to carry all the species. My big question is who was doing all the shoveling on the Ark? It has to be a 24/7 job otherwise they'd be buried in ....., you get the idea. Besides, did he forget the Chinese who were most likely around at that time? Oh, right, that was a different other God's responsibility.
25 posted on 11/18/2007 10:27:20 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Staying home or voting 3rd Party, Elects Hillary!)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
"Aryans to North America 4400 years ago? That’s a new one to me."

Me too. They got to NA much earlier than that...possibly as early a 25,000 years ago.

26 posted on 11/18/2007 10:39:44 AM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

Kennewick Man,or the Great American Indian Hoax or “Who’s on (the continent) first?”


27 posted on 11/18/2007 10:45:52 AM PST by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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To: redstateconfidential
“Who’s on (the continent) first?”

Vintage Skulls

"The oldest human remains found in the Americas were recently "discovered" in the storeroom of Mexico's National Museum of Anthropology. Found in central Mexico in 1959, the five skulls were radiocarbon dated by a team of researchers from the United Kingdom and Mexico and found to be 13,000 years old. They pre-date the Clovis culture by a couple thousand years, adding to the growing evidence against the Clovis-first model for the first peopling of the Americas."

"Of additional significance is the shape of the skulls, which are described as long and narrow, very unlike those of modern Native Americans."

28 posted on 11/18/2007 11:03:43 AM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: stormer

Pretty Much (The Biblical Account)! And I believe there is empirical evidence that shows so (both Geological and Archeological..)!


29 posted on 11/18/2007 11:20:13 AM PST by JSDude1 (When a liberal represents the Presidential Nominee for the Republicans; THEY'RE TOAST)
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To: JSDude1; DaveLoneRanger

*Ping!


30 posted on 11/18/2007 11:22:44 AM PST by JSDude1 (When a liberal represents the Presidential Nominee for the Republicans; THEY'RE TOAST)
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To: stormer
I fail to understand how any modern human can conceivably interpret the Bible literally, yet it is done constantly.

I plead guilty. I guess shame on me, huh?

31 posted on 11/18/2007 11:45:26 AM PST by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rear view mirror.)
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To: anymouse

The real connection between the flood and European farming is that Japheth took some farming manuals to read during the flood, while his brothers just played checkers the whole time.


32 posted on 11/18/2007 12:03:40 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: BipolarBob

I’m afraid so.


33 posted on 11/18/2007 12:19:33 PM PST by stormer
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To: JSDude1

I’m sure you do believe there is empirical evidence that supports a biblical account. Unfortunately, evidence is sometimes distorted (or worse) by agenda-driven organizations in order to maintain status quo. On closer or more rigorous inspection, often times what has been accepted as foundational, is simply an artifact of what amounts to wishful thinking.


34 posted on 11/18/2007 12:26:57 PM PST by stormer
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To: stormer

And if all life was destroyed in the flood, where did the olive branch come from? Weren’t all the trees dead?


35 posted on 11/18/2007 1:57:27 PM PST by Tanniker Smith ("What are we doing tomorrow night?" "Same thing we do every night. Try to take over the world!")
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To: anymouse
This timeline and “flood” correspond to the general warming period that we are experiencing now. The expansion of farming across Europe was just as likely because all of the sudden it got warmer. And, despite the folks who want our planet to be a uniform temperature, warm is almost always good, especially compared to the cold periods which have a tendency to last for 60,000 years.
36 posted on 11/18/2007 1:59:53 PM PST by dalight
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To: stormer

I don’t base my empiracle evidence upon any give me by an Organization, I base it upon the simple facts!


37 posted on 11/18/2007 2:22:55 PM PST by JSDude1 (When a liberal represents the Presidential Nominee for the Republicans; THEY'RE TOAST)
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To: Tanniker Smith

All land-living animal life. Obviously fish and sea creatures were able to survive, and so are some forrests when they haven’t been submerged for long, or very deeply!


38 posted on 11/18/2007 2:24:26 PM PST by JSDude1 (When a liberal represents the Presidential Nominee for the Republicans; THEY'RE TOAST)
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To: stormer

Well, fish wouldn’t need to be saved.


39 posted on 11/18/2007 2:29:59 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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