Ron Paul Courts 9-11 Troofers on Alex Jones Show...Again (Paging Ministry of Silly Explanations)

The Jawa Report ^ | November 21, 2007

[West Coast Conservative]

Apparently, America's greatest patriot was on Loonwaffle/Trooferville's favorite radio show today with the King Nutbar himself, although I'm not sure if anyone grabbed audio.

If you want to listen to the rebroadcast stream, go here. I don't feel like it. Have fun.

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

Would you have been upset about the matter if the 'troofers' had supported Fred McRomneyani?

No, probably said what this Ron Paul supporter says: A vote is a vote.

Got hypocracy?

[EQAndyBuzz]

Are these State Troofers?

[EQAndyBuzz]

Do candidates withdrawing from the election get to keep their money?

If so, Ron Pauls investment into presidential politics is going to make him a few million off of this. I consider that good business.

[West Coast Conservative]

Would you have been upset about the matter if the 'troofers' had supported Fred McRomneyani?

Yes.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Paul is a personal friend of Jones. He has stated repeatedly that he doesn't share his views. Jones' show is just another media outlet for Paul to get his views out.

Yes, Ron appears on the Alex Jones radio program. But you know who else talks to Alex Jones? People like Judge Anthony Napolitano. Guess who hosts Alex Jones? FOX’s John Gibson and National Public Radio. Dr. Paul has said time and again that he does not believe 9/11 was an inside job. He does, however, think we should always question authority. When, by the way, were conservatives supposed to become trusting of big government?

JESSE BENTON, RON PAUL CAMPAIGN COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR

Why do you care who Paul courts? You're not going to vote for him anyway, right?

[Hornitos]

Shame on you for posting your bullsh*t.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

He has been a protest candidate forever.

Elected to 10 terms in Congress is a "protest" candidate?

He does not deny anything, even his Paul Newsletter stuff.

His articles and columns are open source. Anyone from the KKK to the Nation of Islam can reprint & distribute them. At least he writes his own material, unlike the other "candidates."

Ever noticed that Paul’s supporters are the one’s denying and defending their own platforms. The ones they believe that Paul supports.

Ever notice the desperation and smear tactics that have converged on a candidate with supposedly "no chance" of winning? Ever notice why supporters of Paul are more passionate than supporters of the other assembly-line Republicans? Why is that?

The more of these “interviews” he does, the more he gets his minions to defend him.

Jay Leno had Hillary Clinton on his show. Paul recently went on the Jay Leno Show. Does that make Paul a leftist?

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Grappling with the claims on a point-by-point basis helped me realize that the 911 truth movement is a complete, money-making scam.

Dr. Paul is not associated with the 9/11 Truthers. He does not share their views regardless of how many times conservatives resort to left-wing tactics in promoting this smear.

[Hornitos]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcrF346sS_I

Thanks for posting this link.

[Lead Moderator]

So, we did it to ourselves? If you believe that, YOU ARE A NUT.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Ron Pauls investment into presidential politics is going to make him a few million off of this.

The money is freely donated to him. He didn't go out and solicit it or ask for it. In other words, IT'S HIS. You're talking about a man who refused to take part in the lucrative Congressional pension and refused Medicare/Medicaid payments from his patients, and somehow he's "scamming" people? ROFL.

It's appropriate today is Thanksgiving. There's a lot of turkey on this thread.

[SJackson]

Libertarians Break With Paul

November 22, 2007 by Michael van der Galiën

http://mvdg.wordpress.com/2007/11/22/libertarians-break-with-paul/

Very early in the morning today (Dutch time), co-blogger Jason Steck published a good post about how some Libertarians believe that Ron Paul is bad for the Libertarian movement (because of his association with ‘truthers,’ white supremacists, and so on).

In his post, Jason linked to this post at the Volokh Conspiracy by Ilya Somin. Somin explains that Paul doesn’t just hurt the Libertarian movement, he’s not even as Libertarian as he and his followers pretend.

Anyway, what I find interesting to see is that increasingly more Libertarians are abandoning Paul. Let me give you an example: Kevin writes at the Liberty Papers that he’s “done with Ron Paul.” The reason? Paul is sucking up to conspiracy theorists and alike. Yesterday, he - and not for the first time - appeared at Alex Jones’ show. This was the final drop for Kevin.

I can understand Kevin quite well, and I’m wondering why it is that Paul doesn’t distance himself from the nutcases. There are two explanations possible, in my opinion, I think it’s the second:

- Paul agrees with (most of) them. He doesn’t object to them, because he agrees with them. He just doesn’t say what they say because he knows it’ll hurt his career.

- Paul didn’t expect to do so well. Suddenly he sees money coming in constantly. He’s part of a movement. Its leader even. He didn’t expect it and now that it’s happening he’s simply enjoying the ride. He’s not occupied with ‘who’ support him, nor with why they support him. He’s happy that they’re supporting him: they’re taking him somewhere he didn’t expect to be.

I’m thinking that’s it.

Of course, fringe groups give quite a lot of money as well.

 

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Ron Paul Makes Thanksgiving Eve Appearance With Alex Jones

http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/11/21/ron-paul-makes-thanksgiving-eve-appearance-with-alex-jones/

For some more pandering to the Troofers and other conspiracy theorist whackjobs. I’ll listen for anything of note, but as of now, I’m done with Ron Paul.

The Ron Paul campaign has unfortunately become a gathering place for 9/11 “Truther” morons, racists, neo-Nazis, Southern secessionists, fascists, conspiracy theorists, wannabe authoritarians, Birchers, and nativists that I do not want to be associated with. Worst of all, the candidate himself knows about these err….outside of the mainstream supporters and he refuses to publically repudiate them and refund the donations from the most high profile ones. (No Lew, I’m not calling for Ron Paul to do background checks on all of his supporters, just refuse the donations from the high profile scumbags). If a candidate thinks its alright to make common cause with these people, especially one who is running a “principled” campaign on restoring liberty, than I have to question his conscience for aligning with these people at best and question his ability to lead at worst. I’ve come to the conclusion that a Ron Paul candidacy unless he repudiates these people who do not share the belief in liberty, will harm the overall freedom movement by giving the impression to the American people that “freedom” and “liberty” are just code words for fascism, racism, and conspiracy mongering like the “New World Order” and the “North American Union”.

The precedent is there. Ron Paul needs to follow it for entire freedom movement’s sake.

Until then, this classical liberal is not a part of the Ron Paul Revolution.

h/t: My Pet Jawa

[Petronski]

You’d love for those things to be true.

Go back on your meds.

[West Coast Conservative]

If he doesn’t share their views, how come he continuously goes on Alex Jones’ show?

Usually when you appear on a radio show, you are in agreement with the host.

How many times has Hillary been on Rush’s show? How many times has Cheney been on Air America? They don’t go on those shows because there is no level of agreement between the host and the guest.

[SJackson]

If he doesn’t share their views, how come he continuously goes on Alex Jones’ show?

Because he want's their votes, that's why politicians do things. Rare are the occasions where, during a campaign, a candidate appears before a group and condemns them, he simply stays away.

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

Yes.

Thank you for your consistency on that question.

Now, would you speak out, and turn against your own preferred candidate (no need to mention who you support, your business, not mine), if the 'troofers' supported him?

[SJackson]

Anyone who thinks the 9/11 Commission report represents the “truth” is poorly informed. Pools of molten steel, explosions in the basements, count-downs for the demolition of WTC7 broadcast over police radio, and a complete failure to investigate the money trail are not the realm of Democrats and aliens; they are things that people interested in a Free Republic ought to know about.

Truth is, of course, what the truthers tell us.

That's why we call them truthers!

Nice to meet ya Rosie, even if it is only online.

Can you believe the kool aid these Freepers drink?

Yuk!

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

So, we did it to ourselves? If you believe that, YOU ARE A NUT.

Ironically, Ron Paul would probably tell him the same thing that you just told him.

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

A vote is a vote. i find it hard to believe that you would protest these same people voting for your preferred candidate.

Nice try though.

[mnehring]

I believe this is his fourth appearance since declaring his run, along with members of his campaign being on at least six other times and Paul contributing to two of Jones' documentaries (Matrix of Evil & Endgame).. so how exactly is he not associating with anti-American troofers again?