Posted on 12/08/2007 11:30:00 AM PST by sevenbak
Perhaps you need to look into Mormon history and the reaction to polygamy by the United States Supreme Court.
Again, FACTS are there for you too!
The reason pologamy was “banned” is because Christians didn’t want polygamy in the United States - it is unChristian to Joesph Smith’s chagrin. Joseph Smith and the others are nothing more than false prophets. It’s a “religion” that “evolves”. Hopefully it will “evolve” back to the Bible and away from these “rewritten” versions penned by Mormon false prophets.
Hey, I’m not surprised that a young teen, Smith, hormones racing would WANT polygamy to be “Christian”. I do know what it’s not Christian and as much as you don’t want to hear it - it is part of Mormon history and quietly continuing.
As I also mentioned earlier, polygamy is winked at in Utah and still goes on within the Mormon religion. In fact one was just sent to jail for molesting girls etc.. Deny that too! As always, you maybe believe whatever you wish! You can even believe in the Tooth Fairy - it's okay with me.
and
God had sexual relations with Mary to conceive Christ.
For the first time during this campaign, I heard a candidate who spoke passionately, coherently, and with conviction about their religious beliefs, their belief in faith, their respect for the faith of others, and clearly and unequivocally and, in some instances, emotionally, answer the questions that I have heard day in and day out about his religion.
His speech was refreshing and, yes, presidential. And it was from the heart, something that is sadly lacking in this campaign of soundbite speechifying and electioneering.
I will also, for the record, mention that I find the rantings of folks decrying Mormonism as somehow defective, and that only their own beliefs are true and correct, to be suspicious, at the very least. And I will qualify that by mentioning that I am Jewish.
I would have no hesitation in voting for Romney if he is the candidate and I, further, have no hesitation in ignoring the stupidity of those foaming at the mouth about his religion.
The guy that was recently sent to jail was not a Mormon. If you continue to believe he is, then YOU believe in the tooth fairy.
LDS say that I will burn in hell because I fail to worship Joe Smith.
That does it for me.
> Reynolds v. United States, 98 U.S. 145 (1878), was a Supreme Court of the United States case that held that religious duty was not a suitable defense to a criminal indictment.
Yes, agreed. I know about and understand the ruling. My question to nmh was because nowhere in that ruling do I see anything that says "polygamy is deemed un-Christian and therefore is illegal" (his contention).
Instead, the ruling is devoid of reference to any one religion (save the one whose practice was being targeted (Mormonism)) because the whole point was that the ruling was NOT based on the tenets of a different religion (e.g. Christianity), but rather the general benefit of society, as you correctly stated.
Revelation 22:18 “ I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God shall add to him the plagues which are written in this book.” Mormons consider the Scriptures as flawed and the Book Of Mormon as a more worthy source of inspiration. Mormonisn is a CULT. LDS claims to be Christian....this is a ruse to make them more acceptable to inquirers who are sucked into their culture. I have a problem with Joseph Smith and his magical glasses “Urim and Thummin” which allowed him to decipher the magical tablets. The Christian God does not use magic! Mormonism is a cult! Romney is a good man. He is not God’s man. The main problem with Mormonism is that their adherents will because of their belief system not find salvation and eternal life in Heaven.
Mormonism seems to fit the description by Paul in 2 Corinthians:
or if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.
2 Corinthians 11:3-5
and later in the chapter
3For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
The Angel Moroni of the Mormon religion is called ‘The Angel of Light.’ Seems pretty clear to me.
[Nobody is sliding anything under your tent, you, as usual, are bloviating in ours.]
I simply don’t believe the signatures of a group of Mormon corporate types has any special revelatory power. You might as well send a Hallmark greeting card.
No. He is a fundamentalist Mormon going by the teachings of the founder of Mormonism. You may want to go back to Mormon history to understand and accept what they were taught to believe. Christians didn’t want polygamy and why the United States Supreme Court banned polygamy - Mormonism is not Christian and violated Christian principles.
Fellow Mormons on FR will try to wiggle out of this by occasionally one will be honest .... Mormons don’t believe in the Trinity. They like Christ but believe Christ achieved godhood and you can too! It’s a works driven religion. They also believe that some who live an exclempraty life will get a PLANET with lots of VIRGINS. None of this is Christian. None of it. It’s a perverted imitation of Christianity.
Much thanks for clarifying. It's helpful to know where people are coming from. Godspeed to you.
“Since you ignore facts, once again I will state that plural marriage is illegal as well as banned by the Church. What is your problem with the facts?”
Please tell me which of your prophets declared that polygamy was good.
Please tell me which of your prophets declared later, to gain statehood, that all of a sudden polygamy was bad.
Please tell me which of your prophets declared that non-whites couldn’t attain the “priesthood.”
Please tell me which of your prophets in the 1960’s declared that non-whites could attain the “priesthood.”
Please then explain to me which ones were false prophets, since the biblical definition of a prophet is that he never prophesies falsely.
“By their fruits ye shall know them.”
Please tell me why there are some self-declared Mormons even now who claim polygamy is good. They claim they are just following the prophetical declarations of Joseph Smith.
All relgion is invalid. The only religion God ever recognized was the Law of Moses . He tore that up the day Christ died and hasn’t had anything to do with religion since.
Christianity? Ah! It is The Way. The way of life, not a religion.
“Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. “ - Matthew 7:13 The majority are following religions that will get them nowhere good.
The next two verses are revealing, too, if you interpret “false prophets” as the founders or religions.
“of” not “or” in the last line.
Kinda like in China where they have a girl shortage for an entirely different reason.
One's enough for me. Who needs more than one mother-in-law anyway?
May God bless you ALL, this joyous Christmas season, and cause us all to hold in our hearts the true reason for the season.
That was beautiful. Thanks for the reminder!
And a joyous Christmas season to you as well, my FRiend.
You are exactly correct. There aren't enough females to go around, so "lost boys"
are unceremoniously dumped by polygamous Mormon sects. You can read more
about this terrible practice here.
“He has flip flopped so much”
No, he really hasn’t. I know that’s the line you’d like to use on him, though.
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