Posted on 12/30/2007 5:31:07 AM PST by TheEaglehasLanded
The statewide smoking ban is ...
good for Illinois. 33.5% bad for Illinois. 66.5%
Total votes: 248
You beat me to it. Isn’t Illinois state law basically the following: “Blah, blah blah...except Cook County...” or vice versa, etc?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
Why not keep smoking at home where it belongs and we wouldn’t need people asking for these laws. I think everyone can see what a grip smoking has on people, even to the extent of twisting the argument into how someone smells or them being a nazi beacause they don’t agree with there point. And its not a total prohibition by the way. I’ll say it again, I don’t like government passing laws to do this and if people would act responsible we would avoid this situation. Smoke at home all you want or a distance away from others. Heck lite the whole pack up at once I don’t care as long as I don’t have to breath it. My argument is for smokers to be responsible for there actions. Smokers have brought this on themselves.
Like I said above, it’s pretty pathetic that hubby and I have to go to Vegas where he can enjoy a cigar with his adult beverage WITH OTHER ADULTS DOING THE SAME — it’s called socialization. Hubby has an extremely stressful job of keeping the rapid transit running for the Cleveland area. He puts in many hours as well. He only smokes about 6 cigars per year, but just to be able to do it is a treat. And, for all his work and the stress and hours involved, the people tell him that he cannot enjoy a cigar in public with other like-minded adults. Think about it.
There are a couple who still believe in freedom and the American people.
"I'd like to see a country where the day I walk out of the White House, after a couple of terms, the American people are more independent of government than the day that I walked in."
Congressman Duncan Hunter, 2008 presidential candidate
Outstanding words by Ducan Hunter. Hear! Hear!
A resounding Yes! to both your comments.
Yes they are! He is simply THE BEST!!!
This is an issue you should take up with the property owner instead of whining like a baby for the nanny state to come to your rescue.
Property Owners Should Decide
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15-17 years ago businesses began doing just that. Suddenly, when you went into a restaurant you were given a choice of smoking or non-smoking sections. Yin/Yang signs were posted on doors indicating the business provided an environment for all to enjoy. But that was not enough for the nanny's.
Then they mandated separate, walled off areas for smokers with outlandish air filtration systems. Many establishments spent thousands of dollars to comply with the new laws only to be told a few years later that it was not good enough and they must become smoke free.
I miss living in a free country!
So do I. Even Rush Limbaugh has said that this has got to stop. It seems that some so-called "conservatives" don't understand this, and are willing to allow giving away a bit of freedom for what they want. FREEDOM REQUIRES CONSISTENCY. I ran across a Freeper here in a smoking thread who was some type of official that regulated businesses. That person said they were proud to vote for smoking bans time and time again and would continue to do so. When I told him/her that with every law passed a little bit of freedom was taken away,he/she wanted me to "take it back." This is an official who affects our lives and who didn't want to acknowledge that.
“Why not keep smoking at home where it belongs”
Well, I don’t like the smell of perfume, so let’s make a law banning perfume in public places and KEEP PERFUME AT HOME WHERE IT BELONGS!.
And believe me, I’ve seen people who are very unreasonable when it comes to ANY SMELL that bothers them. Whether it be smoke, perfume or even some cooking odors.
If you don’t like smoke then it’s very simple.
AVOID BEING AROUND SMOKERS.
YOUR RIGHT to not smell smoke doesn’t outweigh THEIR RIGHT to smoke where ever they choose or are ‘allowed’ in the case of the nanny government.
If it’s not smoking, it’s going to be something else someone doesn’t like and wants banned.
And you may be right about smoking ‘killing’ people.
But it’s the SMOKERS that are dying, NOT people breathing second hand smoke.
You couldn’t get enough tar in your lungs from someone else’s cigarette smoke unless you were in a room with no windows and doors 24 hours a day.
The ‘second hand smoke kills’ argument is a specious one and totally unproven.
Even the WHO (World Health Organization) said just the opposite.
One of the ‘emergency’ remedies for people with asthma is to give them one or two drags on a cigarette.
Seems foolish doesn’t it?
Why would that work? Because cigarettes contain NICOTINE which is a drug that opens the pores in your lungs and allows you to breath better.
The problem with smokers, and why eventually they may have lung problems is because of the TAR in the cigarettes and the HEAT generated.
Tar will build up over time and will ‘plug’ the pores in your lungs and damage the bacilli (little hairs) and can cause scarring of the lung tissue.
The effect is reversible by quitting smoking. Over time your lungs will heal themselves provided you have not let the condition go beyond the point of no return.
In most cases, healing will happen within a year of quitting.
Since you are not smoking but merely breathing second hand smoke for a relatively short time, your lungs will not even know the difference.
I sense your argument is not the ‘effects’ on second hand smoke but the ‘annoyance’ that you feel by smelling it.
There are a lot of annoying habits people have, but to say they must ‘keep it at home where it belongs’ is nothing more than selfishness and a ‘my rights are more important than your rights’ statement.
All I can say is.
GET OVER YOURSELF.
Good is winning...
Errr.. That IS what you wanted us to freep isn't it???
“Errr.. That IS what you wanted us to freep isn’t it???”
Ummmmmmm.....no..
Government interference = bad
No Government interference = good.
But in this case, the ‘good’ and ‘bad’ are reversed in the poll.
Sometimes I have to check and make sure I am still on FreeRepublic. Watching/listening to people turn themselves inside out to defend something that should never have been an issue is very discouraging.
I am beginning to lean toward banning all tobacco products and get it over with. Make it all illegal, as well as all alcohol and any other activity we may enjoy. Let's take the plunge into full blown fascism and get on with our lives.
Do I sound too cynical? ;*)
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