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Real ID ready for prime time (National ID Cards Mandated in the US)
Washington Technology ^ | 01/11/08 -- 09:15 PM | Alice Lipowicz

Posted on 01/11/2008 1:32:19 PM PST by Calpernia

The Homeland Security Department today released the 284-page final rule for implementing the Real ID Act that would standardize the handling of personal information for driver’s licenses.

The release of the long-awaited final implementation regulations — the law was passed in 2005 — is expected to spur contracting activity on the program after months of uncertainty as federal officials were crafting the rule.

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The final rule also requires a 2-Dimensional Bar Code Machine Readable Zone, which DHS said is already used by 46 jurisdictions.

Under the Real ID Act of 2005, states must meet new rules for collecting, verifying, storing and publishing personal information related to driver’s licenses, and they must share the personal information of license holders with other states. The law generated substantial controversy due to its high cost and possible risk of identity theft and privacy loss.

Many systems integrators and IT contractors are preparing to assist state motor vehicle departments in upgrading their infrastructures to incorporate Real ID requirements. Many state administrators have been postponing those improvements until the Real ID rule was released, Grant said.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontechnology.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 110th; chertoff; dhs; realid; realidact
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To: Calpernia

NY Elloit Spitzer want to delay ID cards it until 2018

Check out a few of these links

Spitzer and Cheroff strick a deal it stinks!

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/drivers.license.dhs.2.415047.html

http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?cat=23&paged=2


41 posted on 01/11/2008 3:10:18 PM PST by restornu (Teach them correct principles and let them govern themselves ~ Joseph Smith)
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To: Leisler
I find the image disturbing because it reminds me of an experience I had as a boy. I noticed a tattoo on the arm of an elderly neighbor and innocently asked her what it was. She proceeded to tell me about Auschwitz. It was a life-changing experience, I’ll tell you.
42 posted on 01/11/2008 3:10:32 PM PST by Aristotelian (Freedom is "the absence of coercion." F.A. Hayek, The Constitution of Liberty, 1960.)
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To: infidel29

Many illegal aliens have no problem passing for citizens. How do you tell the difference between someone with a legitimate right to live in and work in America and someone without that right?


43 posted on 01/11/2008 4:22:48 PM PST by FFranco
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To: 353FMG

I have no problem with the government requiring everyone to carry an official id card. My thought was that if passports are required instead of id cards there would be less objection. Now passports are required for travel to Canada and Mexico.

Passports need to be the size they are so visas can be stamped inside them.


44 posted on 01/11/2008 4:26:50 PM PST by FFranco
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To: Aristotelian

Passports need to be the size they are so visas can be stamped inside them. A national id card carried by all citizens and aliens that includes information about the person’s citizenship and immigration status makes more sense.


45 posted on 01/11/2008 4:30:32 PM PST by FFranco
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To: Calpernia

This is bullshit.

Go ahead and ban me.


46 posted on 01/11/2008 4:31:11 PM PST by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: Calpernia

If Chertoff could get more than 2 out of 10 ID screeners at the airport checkpoints to actually look at the bearer of the ID and compare the picture, I’d be really impressed. I think most of them are just matching the name on the boarding pass to the name on the ID. I would doubt that many of them even check to see if the ID has expired. I’ve been throught checkpoints at 3 different airports this week and have yet to be “eye-balled”.


47 posted on 01/11/2008 4:58:54 PM PST by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: FFranco
How do you tell the difference...

Start by profiling, do they look like they're supposed to be here? Next, do they speak english? Ask me for my driver's license, I'm happy to show you that.

What I'm not happy about is a jack-booted government thug asking "your papers please."

Part of the Real ID plan being talked about is the fact that it must be carried at all times, I know my DL number and can recite it off to a cop if necessary even if I don't have it on me.

Another part is the proposed RFID chip imbedded in every card, unique to each citizen, that can be tracked by GPS. I don't need the government spying on where I choose to vacation, visit or shop.

No thanks, I don't want to feel like I'm the guilty one in my own country.

48 posted on 01/11/2008 5:46:27 PM PST by infidel29 (I'm pulling for Fred... The 6 of us just don't have a loud enough voice to "b" Duncan Hunter "ttt")
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To: infidel29
Real ID is mandatory: RFID is "Optional"
The RFID will only be mandatory in IDs that can also be used for passports and it will be optional "if RFID is not available." There's also a matter of functional range and whether or not they can actually fit power supplies on these things.

I'm trying to stay optimistic, but I have to say I'm dissapointed. Time to get the state legislature passing laws like they have in Texas.
49 posted on 01/11/2008 6:14:45 PM PST by underground
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To: Aristotelian

“——there are only three sets of people who should be upset by the new Real IDs: terrorists, illegal aliens and swindlers.”

I agree!!!

I would not mind seeing the three systems, the ID, the eye scan and the fingerprint. That would help on air travel (and believe me I think of that). AND voter fraud!!!
And speaking of air travel - I have NO problem with taking off my shoes, having my take-on inspected, and if something look suspecious in my luggage PLEASE PLEASE check it out!!!

Vacationing in Mexico in the 70’s, 80’s, & 90’s, I know you had to have ID and not just one piece of ID.

Canada was also very difficult to enter!!

And please carefully check my ID to voting - mail in ballots is just open for fraud!!! Motor Voter Bill is begging for fraud.

I never thought I would say -— illegal alliens & close our borders, but....

we must attend to illegal alliens in our country and close our borders. And deal with the ones who break our rules.


50 posted on 01/11/2008 6:18:56 PM PST by malia ( The Media is ignoring you FRED THOMPSON but I'm not ! And I know Duncan HUNTER is there also!)
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To: infidel29
House vote on passage of HR418, 10-Feb-2005

Yeas: 261
Nays: 161

All that matters now is that eight Republicans had the courage to vote against this gross violation of our civil rights.

They were Diaz-Balart, L. (FL); Diaz-Balart, M. (FL); Paul (TX); Pombo (CA); Ros-Lehtinen (FL); Smith (NJ); Wilson (NM); Young (AK).

(Some of the Dems who voted against may have also had our civil liberties in mind; however, I suspect most simply wanted to poke the Bush Administration in the eye.)

51 posted on 01/11/2008 6:21:04 PM PST by logician2u
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To: underground
Real ID is mandatory: RFID is "Optional"

"Optional" for who, you(fat chance) or the government? Just like social security was only supposed to be up to $3,000, Hillary's health care plan is only if you don't already have insurance, the AMT was only supposed to affect 20 families.

It's like "targeted tax cuts" all that means is "you ain't gettin' one." I hope you're right, but I don't believe bureaucrats when the say it'll be good for me.

52 posted on 01/11/2008 6:29:39 PM PST by infidel29 (I'm pulling for Fred... The 6 of us just don't have a loud enough voice to "b" Duncan Hunter "ttt")
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To: Calpernia

More incremental progress toward the required chip implant/SLAG

aka THE MARK OF THE BEAST predicted accurately 2,000 years ago.


53 posted on 01/11/2008 6:40:56 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: processing please hold

Of course we were called tin-foilers for saying it.

= = =

I’ve long been curious . . . how many of those naysayers would line up like true SHEEPLE

and how many would choose Jesus over satan—the world ruler—under pain of death here but true ETERNAL LIFE.

And I wonder how many will have the courage to say those so often impossible words . . . if they have the chance . . . hereon . . .

I WAS WRONG.

Interesting times, in the Chinese sense.


54 posted on 01/11/2008 6:42:57 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: carumba

Well, at 61, I’m sure I’m fast approaching what the

NWO

folks label as USELESS EATERS scheduled for early extermination at some point.

Everything for the environment . . . so the world will be their National Park and the rest of the 200 million serfs their servants.

What a grand NEW AGE . . .

/sar


55 posted on 01/11/2008 6:45:00 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: 353FMG

Did it for 15+ years . . . successfully, by God’s grace . . . no problems.


56 posted on 01/11/2008 6:46:52 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: carumba

Oldies are not exempt forever, we just have 3 more years to do it. Guess they figure some of us will be dead by 2017 so they won’t have to deal with so many crabby old people who get real cranky about stupid government rules!


57 posted on 01/11/2008 7:00:18 PM PST by Grams A
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To: infidel29

They seem to indicate that states can use non-RFID transmission if they’ve passed laws banning the use of RFID in ID cards (a few states have already done that).

However, those non-RFID cards won’t function as passports.


58 posted on 01/11/2008 7:02:56 PM PST by underground
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To: infidel29
"What I'm not happy about is a jack-booted government thug asking "your papers please. Part of the Real ID plan being talked about is the fact that it must be carried at all times, I know my DL number and can recite it off to a cop if necessary even if I don't have it on me.

Another part is the proposed RFID chip imbedded in every card, unique to each citizen, that can be tracked by GPS. I don't need the government spying on where I choose to vacation, visit or shop.

No thanks, I don't want to feel like I'm the guilty one in my own country."

I fully agree, thank you!! This is why some of us have been talking til we're blue in the face about our government trampling on the constitution and destroying civil liberties, in the name of "security" - which is exactly what our founders warned us against. But apparently many people are still asleep.

I know that many here disagree, but I knew from the moment I heard the Orwellian sounding name "Homeland Security" that it was bad news. The same goes for the "Patriot Act" - another ironic name when you consider what it really is about.

For those who don't see any problem, these things happen incrementally, but if we sit by and do nothing, it will get worse. A lot worse. It doesn't matter if it's a Democrat or Republican who does it - trampling on civil liberties and privacy is unAmerican and wrong, and will take us down a road we do not want to be on.

59 posted on 01/11/2008 7:06:15 PM PST by incindiary (don't tax me, bro!)
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To: carumba
Without one of the new IDs you will be unable to board a plane after 2014 if you are under 50.

ROTFL

Age to be verified at time of boarding by carbon dating.

60 posted on 01/11/2008 7:08:01 PM PST by delacoert
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