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Neanderthals At Mealtime: Pass The Meat
Discovery News ^ | 4-23-2008 | Jennifer Viegas

Posted on 04/25/2008 6:58:54 PM PDT by blam

Neanderthals at Mealtime: Pass the Meat

Jennifer Viegas, Discovery News

Pass the Auroch, Please

April 23, 2008 -- Neanderthals living in southwestern France 55,000 to 40,000 years ago mostly ate red meat from extinct ancestors of modern bison, cattle and horses, according to a new study on a large, worn Neanderthal tooth.

The extinct hominids were not above eating every edible bit of an animal, since they were dining for survival, explained Teresa Steele, one of the study's co-authors.

While a steak dinner "is probably the closest modern comparison," Steele said, "remember too that they were consuming all parts of the animals, definitely the bone marrow and probably also the organs, not just the 'prime cuts.'"

The new findings, which have been accepted for publication in the Journal of Human Evolution, also suggest beans, grains and nuts were off the Neanderthal menu.

"We assume that Neanderthals were eating some plant foods, but given the present evidence, these plant foods were not significant sources of protein," explained Steele, an assistant professor of anthropology at the University of California at Davis.

She and her colleagues extracted fine powder from an upper right Neanderthal premolar, excavated at a now-collapsed rock shelter called Jonzac in southwest France. For comparison, they also extracted and analyzed bone collagen from animal remains unearthed at the site. These animals included the Steppe bison, aurochs, ancient horses, reindeer and hyenas.

The scientists focused on forms of the common chemical elements carbon and nitrogen. These particular elements reflect an individual's diet at the time of tooth formation, usually during later childhood.

The research, conducted in the Department of Human Evolution at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany, matched the Neanderthal tooth isotopes to those found in the large herbivore fossils found nearby, with the exception of reindeer, which appear to have been hyena prey.

"It is not surprising that hyenas would prefer reindeer -- they are the ideal size for hyena prey," explained Steele. "Given a choice, bison and aurochs would have been more difficult for a hyena to hunt compared to a reindeer, but apparently this was not true for Neanderthals."

The Neanderthal diet was limited in comparison to modern human diets, noted Steele, since early modern humans ate "more small, fast game, including birds and fish." This gave our ancestors "greater dietary flexibility and ultimately allowed their population sizes to increase more rapidly, allowing them to live at higher population densities."

Neanderthals, who lived in small groups throughout parts of Europe and the Near East, went extinct around 30,000 years ago, shortly after modern humans arrived on their territory. The new study therefore reveals what Neanderthals, at least those in southwestern France, were eating fairly close to the time of their ultimate demise.

"The study reconfirms previous studies that the Neanderthals were highly carnivorous and fed primarily on large mammals," said Richard Klein, a professor of anthropological sciences in the Department of Biology at Stanford University, adding, "I think it is totally convincing."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dietandcuisine; godsgravesglyphs; mealtime; meat; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals

1 posted on 04/25/2008 6:58:55 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 04/25/2008 6:59:33 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

All of that from one tooth??? This guy might have been the only meat eater in the entire tribe with every body else eating banannas.


3 posted on 04/25/2008 7:05:11 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: blam
Hmmm. I guess a vegan Neanderthal wouldn't have fared too well.
4 posted on 04/25/2008 7:07:10 PM PDT by VegasCowboy ("...he wore his gun outside his pants, for all the honest world to feel.")
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To: blam
Steele said, "remember too that they were consuming all parts of the animals, definitely the bone marrow and probably also the organs, not just the 'prime cuts.'"

Did they use one of these?

sterling_s_marrow

5 posted on 04/25/2008 7:09:17 PM PDT by free_for_now (No Dick Dale in the R&R HOF? - for shame!)
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To: blam


Mastodon ... its whats for dinner.
6 posted on 04/25/2008 7:11:13 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: wendy1946

“according to a new study on a large, worn Neanderthal tooth”


“We assume that Neanderthals were eating some plant foods, but given the present evidence, these plant foods were not significant sources of protein,”

A TOOTH?!?!????!!!! (yeah, I read the rest of the article about the surroundings)

This ‘researcher’ has a vested interest in publishing this dental voodoo/doodoo...


7 posted on 04/25/2008 7:11:56 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: wendy1946

They’ve also done studies of fossilized scat that came to the same conclusion.


8 posted on 04/25/2008 7:13:42 PM PDT by elmer fudd (Fukoku kyohei)
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To: free_for_now

“Did they use one of these?”

What is it?


9 posted on 04/25/2008 7:14:40 PM PDT by dalereed (both)
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To: blam
extinct hominids were not above eating every edible bit of an animal

The same is true for humans who eat hot dogs.
10 posted on 04/25/2008 7:17:56 PM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: blam
The extinct hominids were not above eating every edible bit of an animal, since they were dining for survival, explained Teresa Steele, one of the study's co-authors.

While a steak dinner "is probably the closest modern comparison," Steele said, "remember too that they were consuming all parts of the animals, definitely the bone marrow and probably also the organs, not just the 'prime cuts.'"

Just checked Escoffier's book. As late as, say, this Friday night, some bipeds in France were enjoying bone marrow with truffle sauce.

Lucky barstids.

Don't knock it.

/johnny

11 posted on 04/25/2008 7:38:07 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

...mmmmm...osso buco...


12 posted on 04/25/2008 7:39:54 PM PDT by RichInOC (If God did not mean for us to eat the animals, why did He make them out of meat?)
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To: dalereed

bet its a tool for getting marrow.


13 posted on 04/25/2008 7:44:09 PM PDT by fishhound (Boycott the Olympics in China.)
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To: blam
Did the Neanderthals invent the white flag?

ba-dump tsh

(Just a fun poke at all you Frenchy-French lovers out there)

14 posted on 04/25/2008 8:13:17 PM PDT by LiberConservative ("Typical" White Guy)
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The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve
Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe. [pp 126-127]

15 posted on 04/25/2008 8:57:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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16 posted on 04/25/2008 8:57:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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To: Liberty Valance

I think I know that guy.


17 posted on 04/25/2008 9:40:01 PM PDT by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: blam

Well you know what they say-”vegetarian” is Neanderthal for “lousy hunter”.


18 posted on 04/25/2008 10:15:14 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.)
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To: Liberty Valance

It’s so easy, a caveman can do it.

Sorry, I had to say that.


19 posted on 04/26/2008 3:39:39 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1 - Take no prisoners))
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To: free_for_now

What is that, a letter opener?


20 posted on 04/26/2008 3:48:34 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Truthism Watch)
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To: LiberConservative
(Just a fun poke at all you Frenchy-French lovers out there)

We killed the last one. Do you love the French?

21 posted on 04/26/2008 10:09:35 AM PDT by xJones
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To: blam
Yuk!!!!!!!!!!!

Not the Liver!!!!!!!!

22 posted on 04/26/2008 11:18:28 AM PDT by Young Werther (Julius Caesar (Quae Cum Ita Sunt. Since these things are so.))
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To: Thrownatbirth
"The same is true for humans who eat hot dogs."

"Mmm... you can really taste the pork anus." --H. Simpson
23 posted on 04/26/2008 8:41:13 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Fred Thompson/Clarence Thomas 2008!])
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To: dalereed

a marrow spoon


24 posted on 04/27/2008 11:51:24 AM PDT by free_for_now (No Dick Dale in the R&R HOF? - for shame!)
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To: School of Rational Thought

a marrow spoon


25 posted on 04/27/2008 11:52:06 AM PDT by free_for_now (No Dick Dale in the R&R HOF? - for shame!)
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Study explores plausibility of bulbs and tubers in the diet of early human ancestors
PhysOrg | Friday, July 25, 2008 | UC Santa Cruz
Posted on 07/25/2008 8:15:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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26 posted on 07/25/2008 8:21:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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