Posted on 10/04/2008 9:16:33 AM PDT by Amityschild
The man suing Sen. Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee for proof of Obama's American citizenship is outraged that his own party – rather than just providing the birth certificate he seeks – would step in to silence him by filing a motion to dismiss his lawsuit.
As WND reported, prominent Pennsylvania Democrat and attorney Philip J. Berg filed suit in U.S. District Court two months ago claiming Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen and therefore not eligible to be elected president. Berg has since challenged Obama publicly that if the candidate will simply produce authorized proof of citizenship, he'll drop the suit.
Berg told WND the longer the DNC tries to ignore his lawsuit or make it go away – instead of just providing the documents – the more convinced he is that his accusations are correct.
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Do you not know that Obama picks his own electors. They would probably vote for Mrs. Obama.
I stand corrected. Natural born would have to be American soil.
“Obama loses his case in the courts, gets rejected, boards the executive helicopter, gives the “defiant fist” and SARAH takes over!!!”
It would indicate that God still blesses America in spite of what it really deserves.
Whose job is it to determine whether or not a candidate meets the constitutional test? FEC?
Nobody is tasked with that. There is no law requiring the candidates to show any documentation to any federal, state, or local agency.
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Courts are supposed to interpret the law, right? President enforces what the courts say?
8th grade civics is coming back to me...
Oh, C’mon.....
He’s a Dem lawyer. He can afford it,especially if he’s got friends with money. EVEY Dem has friends with money.
If he can make his case,money should be no object.
I'm sure it would. Solid evidence proving Obama was not born in the U.S. would launch a Constitutional crisis the likes of which this country has never seen. But in the end I don't see any solution except Obama's removal from office. The Constitution is clear.
Also, per your thoughts, what standard of proof would it take someone else to prove his is not a natural born citizen to the point of disqualifying him for the Presidency?
A foreign birth certificate or similar documentation would do it I would think. So long as they were shown to be legitimate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Opportunity_to_Govern_Amendment
Nope. Nothing in the law requires it.
This lawsuit is Berg vs Obama/DNC. Anything happens to Berg the lawsuit goes *poof*. I hope and pray he can stay “healthy” for the country’s sake. I would like to see the proof/truth he is after. It’s important.
EVEY=every.
Damn big old fingers! :)
Hillary would probably be glad to give to this cause. 8^}
Courts interpret the law, but other than upholding the law in his own actions the President isn't specifically tasked with enforcing the court's orders. Congress would be more involved in that, through legislation.
Obama’s removal from office........
It sounds like you feel it might take some time to get this all straightened out to the point of being able to disqualify him, commenting about removal from “office” instead of removal from the ballot.
Is that a fair observation?
“It would indicate that God still blesses America in spite of what it really deserves.”
Amen to THAT...especially the last part!
I got this e-mail from Philip Berg!!:
Hi Danamco,
The information below can be found in our Constitution. Quoting Danamco :
I found this on Free Republic, does this have any merit today? Poulus
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First, let me say I'm not a lawyer. Second, I found this blog interesting. See 5th para, "To be a ..." Food for thought I guess with the courts involved.
Mitchell Langbert's Blog
Monday, August 11, 2008 Definition of Natural Born Citizen [snip]
Benjamin then goes on to quote Supreme Court Justice Noah Haynes in United States v. Rhodes:
In United States v. Rhodes, Supreme Court Justice Noah Haynes Swayne (December 7, 1804 – June 8, 1884) addressed the issue as follows:
“All persons born in the Allegiance of the King are Natural- Born subjects, and all persons born in the Allegiance of the United States are Natural-Born Citizens. Birth and Allegiance go together. Such is the Rule of the Common Law, and it is the Common Law of this country…since as before the Revolution.”
Benjamin concludes:
"To be a Natural Born Citizen one has to be born in a State, or Condition of, Allegiance to the USA. A person with Dual Nationality due to having parents of differing Nationality, who both acknowledged the Birth, is not so born. Their Allegiance is, by definition, divided. Subsequent acquisition of Nationality produces the same problem."
Benjamin goes on to quote Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England:
"And this maxim of the law proceeded upon a general principle, that every man owes natural allegiance where he is born, and cannot owe two such allegiances, or serve two masters, at once.... To encourage also foreign commerce, it was enacted by statute 25 Edw. III. st. 2. that all children born abroad, provided both their parents were at the time of the birth in allegiance to the king, and the mother had passed the seas by her husbandÂ’s consent, might inherit as if born in England."
Benjamin also quote the US State Department:
"dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country"
He argues that: "The whole point of Article II is that the President must have absolute and total Allegiance to the United States of America and no Foreign Ruler or Government, Church, or Political Entity...The purpose behind the exclusion of Naturalized Citizens is that the President must never even have had such an Allegiance in the past"
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'Nuf said!!!
Hawaii has provided a real Certificate of Live Birth.
However, the lawsuit specifies that he wants the long-form (”vault copy” or “hospital copy”) released.
Maybe someone good at forging documents should gin up a birth certificate for O that lists his name as Barack Hussein Mohammed Obama....and then let them refute it by producing a real certificate (if they can)
“And with the war on terror...”
What terror? Oh, you mean the ROP, of which Bambi is a member.
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