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[Texas] Rule requiring drivers to prove citizenship now law
Houston Chronicle ^ | July 4, 2011 | Jason Buch

Posted on 07/04/2011 1:37:43 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

As the House early last month debated a must-pass finance bill, one member slipped in language that puts into law a controversial Texas Department of Public Safety policy requiring driver's license applicants to show they're in the country legally.

The amendment, added by Rep. Jim Pitts, R-Waxahachie, to the education funding bill legislators needed to balance the state budget had originally been included in Senate Bill 9, the so-called "sanctuary cities" bill that failed in the special session. It also had appeared in an omnibus homeland security bill by Sen. Tommy Williams, R-The Woodlands, that died in the regular session.

The new law approved last Tuesday makes some tweaks to a 2008 DPS policy that prevents illegal immigrants from getting a driver's license and created a special license for temporary visitors. The rules require Texans applying for or renewing their license to show they are citizens or are in the country legally.

By putting it into law the state potentially undermines an ongoing lawsuit that argues DPS doesn't have authority to check legal status.

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; citizenship; driverslicense; illegalimmigration

1 posted on 07/04/2011 1:37:49 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Jorge W. Bush is not pleased.


2 posted on 07/04/2011 1:43:17 AM PDT by Bullish (The golfer takes all the credit and gives the jet fighter pilot all the blame.)
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To: Bullish

Too bad. He has done enough damage to this nation.


3 posted on 07/04/2011 1:47:44 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Goog for texas they get it now if the other states can grow a pair.Time to stop the illegals.
Illegals are a drain not a gain.


4 posted on 07/04/2011 2:24:50 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: SatinDoll
Too bad. He has done enough damage to this nation.

Amen and I don't want to spoil what portends to be a magnificent 4th by [re]counting all the ways.

Suffice it to say: NO more "Compassionate Conservative" RINOS!!!

5 posted on 07/04/2011 2:32:18 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
a controversial Texas Department of Public Safety policy requiring driver's license applicants to show they're in the country legally

How sad that this is considered controversial.
6 posted on 07/04/2011 4:38:50 AM PDT by andyk (Interstate <> Intrastate)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Wow, Perry threw us conservatives a bone.

Hey Guv Good hair, where was your backbone during the sanctuary city debate? Your inaction cost probably our only chance to address the issue. Too bad this is going to be your legacy.

7 posted on 07/04/2011 4:47:40 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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8 posted on 07/04/2011 5:07:11 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: andyk

Florida requires - for renewals or new licenses since 2010..
1. Proof of citzenshp or legal residence ( birth certificate or green card ect..)
2. proof of address ( utility bill.. ect)
3. proof of social security number

No one has said boo about it here.


9 posted on 07/04/2011 5:27:17 AM PDT by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: catfish1957
Gov. Perry and The Texas Dream Act

[snip]

It’s important to point out that there is a huge difference in the Texas Dream Act and the The Dream Act that was pushed in Congress and failed. The Dream Act in Congress was full of all kinds of goodies other than allowing children of illegals to receive in state tuition. The Texas Dream Act was focused only on that. I happen to agree with The Texas Dream Act, and so did everyone in the Senate in Texas. It passed with ZERO “no” votes. Add to that, it has been proven to be successful.

These are a few things you need to know about the Texas Dream Act. The child has to have lived in Texas the three years leading up to high school graduation. These students are given no special treatment in getting into Texas colleges and universities. They must get in on their own merit. They are paying the tuition (with or without financial aid). It’s estimated that these students make up about 1% of those entering college.

[snip]

Most of us agree that border control MUST be dealt with first. The problem with all other efforts on this issue in the past is that the borders were not sealed. If there is anyone who we can trust to do that it is Gov. Perry (if he decides to run for President). He knows what goes on down at the border. He has gone there many times. He knows what needs to be done. There is no doubt in my mind that if he were President, he would seal our borders. But Perry also understands Hispanic outreach. [snip]

10 posted on 07/04/2011 5:42:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: catfish1957

Why don’t you grow up and drop the “good hair” thing? Are you jealous? And it’s so unoriginal. And completely unrelated to any real issue.


11 posted on 07/04/2011 5:44:08 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
There is no doubt in my mind that if he were President, he would seal our borders. But Perry also understands Hispanic outreach.

Still listening through this Roger Hedgecock radio america link. 10 minutes in I feel like I have been "Rick Rolled" How long is this piece? Why isn't there a toggle where I can find the interview?

As far as the Dream Act comment, as with many other points of Perry's too bad his actions don't speak as loud as his words. I REPEAT ..... The illegal problem is twice as bad as it was 10 years ago. ON PERRY'S WATCH.

12 posted on 07/04/2011 5:48:27 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: catfish1957

If you had READ my note......I said it starts about 1/2 way into the audio file.


13 posted on 07/04/2011 5:49:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Good, on to Sanctuary Cities in the next special session...


14 posted on 07/04/2011 5:51:09 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: catfish1957
Take your cursor and "slide" the maker along the rail.

June 29, 2011: Roger Hedgecock interview with Rick Perry (starts 1/2 way into audio file)

15 posted on 07/04/2011 5:51:56 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: BobL

Pretty persistent fellow, Rep. Jim Pitts, R-Waxahachie!


16 posted on 07/04/2011 5:53:28 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Clara Lou
Yeah I am jealous, and wish that I had hair like that. Still that is what most of us conservatives call him, and I don't really give a flip if you think it is "unoriginal" or not.

As far as relative, it definitely is. Guv goodhair is more style than substance. He may not be as much of an empty suit as the punk president, but he a'int our best choice for GOP nomination.

17 posted on 07/04/2011 5:53:47 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Crap, I spent 30 minutes waiting for Perry to blame the feds? Thanks!!!!


18 posted on 07/04/2011 6:00:12 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Pretty persistent fellow, Rep. Jim Pitts, R-Waxahachie!”

LOL - is he calling for the same?


19 posted on 07/04/2011 6:04:22 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: Waverunner; Cincinatus' Wife; Bullish; SatinDoll
"No one has said boo about it here"

People have short memories and don't recognize incrementalism.

These are Real ID compliant drivers licenses.

Real ID originated at the 9-11 commission, Congress passed it in 2005 and at the time there wasn't much controversy.

But eventually some did start complaining and it was Real ID that killed the immigration reform bill in 2007. Real ID linked to E-Verify. No Real ID, no work. No Real ID, no fly. No Real ID, no access to the courthouse.

Then there was linking Real ID to SPP/NAU. No Real ID, you can't enter or exit the country.

So, in 2007 they all stopped talking about it. But eventually it will be completely rolled out and they will start talking and doing again.

Show me your papers!

20 posted on 07/04/2011 6:07:03 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: bcsco

Thanks! I missed a few of those.


21 posted on 07/04/2011 7:11:51 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: TheOldLady

My pleasure. And a happy Independence Day to you.


22 posted on 07/04/2011 7:16:20 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: bcsco

And to you, sir.


23 posted on 07/04/2011 7:24:29 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: Bullish

This is an outrage. Where is the Southern Poverty Law Center and La Raza?


24 posted on 07/04/2011 7:32:31 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: TheOldLady
I'm glad you brought me back to this thread. I just went over the list and saw I have the same thread linked twice: The Philosophies of Illegal Immigration. I had a copy/paste issue when first adding that thread, and had to return to it to add it again. I had no idea both would appear. I think that's the first time in the 2+ years I've been doing this that this has happened. There always seem to be multiple threads linking to the same source, but this was my mistake. Sheesh...
25 posted on 07/04/2011 7:36:32 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: catfish1957
"I REPEAT ..... The illegal problem is twice as bad as it was 10 years ago. ON PERRY'S WATCH."

But that is true throughout the entire U.S. - why do you see it as a failure on Perry's part and not as a national failure by the geniuses in D.C.?

I don't know much about Perry - I'm just trying to learn a little more.

26 posted on 07/04/2011 7:36:45 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: catfish1957

“Hey Guv Good hair, where was your backbone during the sanctuary city debate?”

Another jealous bald headed Romney fan?


27 posted on 07/04/2011 7:54:06 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Real ID originated at the 9-11 commission, Congress passed it in 2005 and at the time there wasn’t much controversy.


It was a real concern regarding getting all people’s licenses renewed as each one was going to have to go in and provide his/her papers. Texas was hiring people getting ready for the onslaught.

People maybe surprised now if they haven’t read the DPS requirements lately.

Apply for Driver License:
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/DriverLicense/ApplyforLicense.htm

Lawful Presence Requirement:
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/DriverLicense/LawfulStatusDLID.htm


28 posted on 07/04/2011 7:55:33 AM PDT by deport
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To: Flag_This
But that is true throughout the entire U.S. - why do you see it as a failure on Perry's part and not as a national failure by the geniuses in D.C.?

Besides Brewer, none of the other border state governors claim to be conservative. Southern states farther east than Texas are taking a more aggressive towards the hoard than Perry.

Until Perry takes the AZ approach, he has given it lip service at best.

29 posted on 07/04/2011 7:55:53 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: antisocial
fu...

I support DeMint, then Palin, You are a disgrace to your SCV Camp.

30 posted on 07/04/2011 7:57:38 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: BobL
Good, on to Sanctuary Cities in the next special session...

It's ain't goin' to happen. A number of large employers like HEB Grocery Chain and several others...raised hell over it so Straus shelved it. Guess they need illegals to boost they'll incomes.

31 posted on 07/04/2011 8:08:37 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judah and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: shield

Yea, I know it’s not going to happen. I just point it out to let people know where Perry stands on Open-Borders.

If Perry really wanted Sanctuary Cities to pass...it would pass...but if it didn’t he would CERTAINLY give the legislature another shot at it. After all, he gave them 3 shots at passing a new business tax, and was ultimately successful.


32 posted on 07/04/2011 8:19:35 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Where is the Southern Poverty Law Center and La Raza?

LULAC, the ACLU and many dims are threatening lawsuits about this law.

33 posted on 07/04/2011 8:25:51 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (zero hates Texas and we hate him back. He ain't my president either.)
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To: bcsco

That’s okay. It was about a year ago that I had my first double post. Now it seems I do it every day. Sigh...


34 posted on 07/04/2011 8:34:37 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: BobL
See I don't agree...Houston once was a sanctuary city...after the death of a popular HPD officer...it was changed.

It was large Texas based Companies that stopped this bill.

It wasn't Perry...

35 posted on 07/04/2011 8:35:54 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judah and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: shield

Once Perry calls the next Special Session, and the bill is killed again by the state legislature...I’ll agree with you.

Until then, I just have to believe that Perry is PERFECTLY HAPPY with not having to sign or veto Sanctuary Cities on two separate occasions.

So, I’ll be perfectly happy to eat my words, once Perry calls that next session.


36 posted on 07/04/2011 8:40:31 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: BobL

“So, I’ll be perfectly happy to eat my words, once Perry calls that next session.”

...after all he SAYS he wants it.


37 posted on 07/04/2011 8:41:25 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: BobL

What makes you think there will be another session called for?


38 posted on 07/04/2011 8:55:57 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judah and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So, if Obama was pulled over...


39 posted on 07/04/2011 10:05:29 AM PDT by tweakDU
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To: Arrowhead1952

Sure they are. It wouldn’t seem like Amerika if we didn’t have this crapola going on night and day.


40 posted on 07/04/2011 10:09:52 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

The immigration issue has been a hot talk show topic in Austin lately, and one PO’ed female Hispanic caller this morning told the hosts she would like to see every illegal run out of the country. If her name had been Sandra, I’d have bet she was my neighbor.


41 posted on 07/04/2011 10:21:49 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (zero hates Texas and we hate him back. He ain't my president either.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Racehorse; chicagolady; K-oneTexas; fuzzthatwuz; publana; deadmenvote; ...

Ping!

Happy Independence Day!


42 posted on 07/04/2011 10:55:43 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Happy Independence Day SwinneySwitch and FReeperville!


43 posted on 07/04/2011 11:10:29 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They can kiss my butt if they think I’m going to prove I’m a citizen.


44 posted on 07/04/2011 1:36:57 PM PDT by DaGman
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To: antisocial

Quit trying to steal the title! It belongs to Illinois Gov ( Ex Gov) Rod Blagojevich!!

GOOD HAIR!!


45 posted on 07/04/2011 2:45:23 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: chicagolady

LOL


46 posted on 07/04/2011 6:27:36 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: catfish1957

“fu...

I support DeMint, then Palin, You are a disgrace to your SCV Camp.”

I support Palin and DeMint also. Chill out, I was only spoofin’ you.


47 posted on 07/05/2011 7:01:52 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: antisocial
“Another jealous bald headed ........”

LOL! I always wonder if that is not part of what's going on when I hear someone call Perry Gov. Good hair. Same with women who disparage Palin when they know nothing about her leadership abilities.

Sarah and Rick are just so damned good looking it isn't fair if they are popular too. WAAAAA! LOL!

48 posted on 07/05/2011 7:10:27 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


49 posted on 07/06/2011 8:20:24 AM PDT by HiJinx (Old Cold Warrior)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It is a pain but I will need to show my birth certificate and proof of address when I renew my CDL in Kansas in the next month. Every one has to do so here.


50 posted on 07/06/2011 9:13:10 PM PDT by Dust in the Wind (U S Troops Rock)
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