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Female Blogger Threatened With Defamation Suit For Writing About TSA 'Rape'
Forbes ^ | 9/06/2011 | Kashmir Hill

Posted on 09/06/2011 9:52:38 PM PDT by redreno

Attacking the TSA for its privacy-invasive screening procedures has become a favorite activity for many journalists, especially Matt Drudge. TSA horror stories are often featured prominently on The Drudge Report and he has taken to calling Janet Napolitano, Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security (of which the TSA is a part) “Big Sis.”

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigsis; legalrapenot; noaccountability; notransparency; tsa; tsarape

1 posted on 09/06/2011 9:52:44 PM PDT by redreno
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To: redreno

Might be an interesting suit, although the blogger would be dragged over the coals.

For any lawyers: How might the plaintiff show damages?


2 posted on 09/06/2011 9:56:03 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Madoff screwed the rich. Bernanke screwed us all.)
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To: redreno

Until people stand up as one and say enough is enough there will be no changes. A two week boycott of all air travel will quick bring this to a head and force some real change.


3 posted on 09/06/2011 9:57:39 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Never mind: The TSA agent was named. That not good.


4 posted on 09/06/2011 9:58:50 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Madoff screwed the rich. Bernanke screwed us all.)
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To: Kartographer

The problem with that is business travel will never join a boycott. When my boss says fly, we fly. I would much rather drive to Nashville or Chicago (each doable in under six hours for me) but they want us back the next afternoon or sometimes the same day (an incredibly exhausting pain.)


5 posted on 09/06/2011 10:12:32 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
graphically described how she sobbed loudly while a TSA agent put her hands “into” her — four times

And they do this to little girls too I bet!


If it's true, then it's not libel. IMO.
6 posted on 09/06/2011 10:18:26 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: GeronL
-- If it's true, then it's not libel. --

That is correct. Truth is an absolute defense to a claim of defamation.

7 posted on 09/06/2011 10:21:18 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Yup, I can hear the argument now. It is not rape, since it is under color of law, like a strip search at a jailhouse is not rape. Therefore, to call it rape is defamation. It will likely be thrown out, although since it is an accusation of a specific crime with specific elements, it might get to a jury. No matter what, the poor victim will continue to suffer at the hands of these bastards. (Oops, will I be sued for calling them bastards when they may have actually had a father).


8 posted on 09/06/2011 10:22:39 PM PDT by Defiant (Calling all citizens from all over the world, this is Captain America calling.)
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To: Defiant
"....my lawyers so good, he got a rape charge reduced to tailgating."

Rodney Dangerfield

9 posted on 09/06/2011 10:31:35 PM PDT by de.rm ('Most people never believe anything you tell them unless it isn't true."-Groucho Marx)
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To: Defiant; GeronL

“(Oops, will I be sued for calling them bastards when they may have actually had a father).”
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

For the record....a “baby’s daddy” does not constitute as a “Father”.


10 posted on 09/06/2011 10:35:48 PM PDT by Morgana (I don't speak much...............but when I do....)
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To: Defiant

Vaginal penetration without consent is rape. Especially if the blogger cried out against what was being done to her. That would have to legally constitute withdrawal of consent if they tried to claim that she had somehow consented by letting the search begin in the first place. Anything that TSA agent did after that point (IOW, the other 3 times of vaginal penetration) would technically and in fact be rape - carnal knowledge without consent, and with specific and public protest of the act.

In order for it to be “under color of law”, I would think that TSA agent would have to produce official guidelines or instructions regarding vaginal searches and what constitutes permission for a vaginal search.

This whole story is sick, sick, sick.


11 posted on 09/06/2011 10:38:40 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: redreno
TSA screening procedures have already taken a toll on the Fourth Amendment;

Whats wrong with customs doing their job? They intelligent enough to ask questions, afraid of profiling? Or just plain stupid?

12 posted on 09/06/2011 10:44:29 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: BerryDingle

I just got back from a Canadian fishing trip. Canadian customs told me on the way up there I was due for a colonoscopy.


13 posted on 09/06/2011 10:48:26 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: redreno

Here in Thailand, Defamation suits are a means for shutting up the political opposition. Nice to know the USA is catching up. ;-)


14 posted on 09/06/2011 10:49:16 PM PDT by JimSEA (The future ain't what it used to be.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Name them all.

The “it’s uncomfortable, but necessary for the good of the state” defense went out with the Nuremberg Trials.
Hannity and others are wrong to buy this line and repeat it to us as I have heard them say.


15 posted on 09/06/2011 11:08:10 PM PDT by Apogee
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To: redreno

A cavity search to get on an airplane?

Totally out of control.

Hey, if it’s good enough for the peons, it’s good enough for Barry and the Wookie.


16 posted on 09/06/2011 11:26:20 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

It should be mandatory for all the congress critters that let the TSA get away with it. Their wives and daughters and sons should have to go through it also...no private planes for them.....until after the search...and especially the female congress critters that allow this to continue...In a line in public just like the rest of us serfs...


17 posted on 09/06/2011 11:56:54 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: redreno
More details here.

It's a horrible story, but is it true? Consider the source.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Alkon

In her daily life, and in her blog, Alkon has a number of campaigns. In her article, "Hello, Psycho" (entitled after the opening salutation of one of her respondents), she describes her anti-SUV campaign, which consists of placing small cards on the windshields of SUVs. The cards (which are her own composition) refer to the driver as a "Road-Hogging, Gas-Guzzling, Air-Fouling Vulgarian" and pointedly suggest that the driver is compensating for "an extremely small penis" by driving "such a monstrosity."

Maybe she is telling the exact truth, but her accusations would have much more credibility if she were not a professional complainer.

18 posted on 09/07/2011 12:20:51 AM PDT by TChad
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To: TChad
Maybe she is telling the exact truth, but her accusations would have much more credibility if she were not a professional complainer.

Further, she's obviously a liberal. And, guess what, liberals are known to lie.

19 posted on 09/07/2011 12:29:20 AM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: TChad

It does make it easier to dismiss her as a drama queen, not that this particularly helps the TSA agent’s proposed lawsuit, because the agent could always say “consider the source” about this blogger.


20 posted on 09/07/2011 1:20:11 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: redreno

Napolitano, “We’re getting creamed here with our know nothing drones acting like thugs, so let’s make an example of someone!”


21 posted on 09/07/2011 3:15:02 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: redreno

OK...I don’t fly. I have not flown for years.

And, I have been very much against these pat downs or the new fangled nude machines....

...but are all these pulled aside, behind the screens, pat downs include a cavity search?


22 posted on 09/07/2011 3:33:31 AM PDT by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: BerryDingle
They intelligent enough to ask questions, afraid of profiling? Or just plain stupid?

I'm curious, what is your first language?

23 posted on 09/07/2011 3:54:11 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: redreno

What an amazing coincidence. Kashmir Hill writes an article slamming Matt Drudge the very same day Janet Napolitano gives a speech slamming Matt Drudge. And both women use the same phrasing.

Man. How often does something like that happen?


24 posted on 09/07/2011 4:09:10 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
How might the plaintiff show damages?

She can't. Precedents have already established that using the word "rape" even as an exaggeration is protected speech. If you go to the main site, the blogger's attorney has posted her own lengthy rebuttal to TSA agent Magee's lawyer's letter. There's a ton of case law here.

I'm not impressed with the character of the blogger, but nobody should be subjected to this. It's gratuitous infliction of pain and humiliation by a person with no medical training, intended only to punish since it can't reveal the presence of a bomb concealed up high in the vaginal vault. You know there would be a complete firestorm if anybody in the TSA looked cross-eyed at a Muslim woman, much less subjected her to this degrading treatment, so why do this to a whiny American woman?

25 posted on 09/07/2011 7:02:50 AM PDT by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: ottbmare

It’s been said before (including by me) but bears repeating. Anybody who flies is contributing to this offense, enabling this violation of basic liberty. If enough people went to a little damn inconvenience, and took another means of transportation, the TSA grope-search would be obsolete and over in 24 hours.


26 posted on 09/07/2011 7:58:45 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Heavy the head that wears the tiara.)
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To: arthurus
When people ask me that, I explain that English is my first language, and I'm hoping to do better on my second.

≤}B^)

27 posted on 09/07/2011 8:16:53 AM PDT by Erasmus (I love "The Raven," but then what do I know? I'm just a poetaster.)
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To: ottbmare

“so why do this to a whiny American woman?”

Because no one from the religion of peace will try to take your head off?


28 posted on 09/07/2011 8:22:48 AM PDT by Grunthor
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To: Lady Lucky

Well, my lady, I gave up flying. When I started to figure out how long it actually took me to fly, from the time I spent online making the reservations, packing to comply with TSA requirements and obsessing over what clothes to take to keep the baggage down to one carry-on, the additional shopping time and money wasted to buy toiletries I couldn’t bring with me, going to the airport, parking, taking the shuttle to the terminal, checking in, going through security, getting to the gate, waiting, boarding, waiting on the tarmac for infinite periods, etc., I realized that I could drive almost anywhere on the East Coast more conveniently. AND I wouldn’t be subsidizing the ruin of our Constitution.

Obviously it’s a bit harder if you have to do business travel. But if we all refused to fly for personal recreation, the airlines would be transporting business passengers only. That’s the way it was when I was a kid in the 1970s: only business people and the rich routinely flew around.


29 posted on 09/07/2011 8:25:57 AM PDT by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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is it certain that Amy is a she?

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Amy%20Alkon%22&hl=en&num=10&lr=&ft=i&cr=&safe=images&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi


30 posted on 09/07/2011 8:54:00 AM PDT by isom35
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To: Defiant

May I remind you all that the traditional legal definition of rape says “any penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete the act”? She may very well have been ACTUALLY raped by a lesbian TSA agant!


31 posted on 09/07/2011 9:17:29 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: redreno
Apparently this rape was retaliation for Amy complaining so loudly about the TSA groping. Here is what Amy wrote elsewhere...

Basically, I felt it important to make a spectacle of what they are doing to us, to make it uncomfortable for them to violate us and our rights, so I let the tears come. In fact, I sobbed my guts out. Loudly. Very loudly. The entire time the woman was searching me.

Nearing the end of this violation, I sobbed even louder as the woman, FOUR TIMES, stuck the side of her gloved hand INTO my vagina, through my pants. Between my labia. She really got up there. Four times. Back right and left, and front right and left. In my vagina. Between my labia. I was shocked — utterly unprepared for how she got the side of her hand up there. It was government-sanctioned sexual assault.


Advice to any ladies concerned about this... wear pantyhose
32 posted on 09/07/2011 9:43:34 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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To: redreno

The TSA is nothing more than a group of overpaid pedophiles and bureaucratic misfits.

Can I get a suit too?


33 posted on 09/07/2011 10:01:36 AM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: ottbmare

So how do you get around the distance then? I would really hate to have to have to drive from New Orleans to say, Tucson. Talk about a LOOOONG drive. And san antonio/el paso isnt exactly the friendliest to outsiders.


34 posted on 09/07/2011 10:17:23 AM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: redreno

So...basically if you want to travel on Federal Airlines out of Federal Airports...the King’s Men get to have their way with you first?

That’s an easy one..on so many levels...


35 posted on 09/07/2011 10:52:11 AM PDT by mo
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