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'Birthers' Nonsense Sets Georgia Up For Ridicule -- Again
Columbus (GA) Ledger-Enquirer ^ | January 27, 2012

Posted on 01/27/2012 6:53:39 AM PST by transducer

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To: douginthearmy

US Citizens are naturalized or natural born.

Yes they are EITHER naturalized or natural born. The two are not the same no matter how much you try to make them.


201 posted on 01/27/2012 12:42:21 PM PST by Josephat (The old claim your evengelizing people who haven't heard the gospel, but go to a Catholic country tr)
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To: douginthearmy
US Citizens are naturalized or natural born.

Or derived, as Adolphus Bellei in Roger v Bellei, or created by Statute, as were all Indians after the Indian citizenship act of 1924.

202 posted on 01/27/2012 12:45:26 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: transducer
I fail to see how it's "nuttery" to make a candidate for President of the United States, no matter WHO he is, prove that he's qualified constitutionally to hold the job.

Me thinks thou dost protest too much...

203 posted on 01/27/2012 12:48:30 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: douginthearmy
14th Amendment: Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

I guess you missed the bolded part?

Oh, and putting religious issues aside, all laws are manmade.

Not the laws of physics and biology. Speaking of which, it does indeed matter who is the father and what characteristics he possesses. If your theory were correct, there would not be an exception for Slaves, Indians and Diplomats.

I will be convinced when the Supreme Court agrees with you and codifies your opinion. Until then we effectively have only persons who are citizens at birth and those persons who are aliens at birth and at some point after naturalize.

I feel so sorry for you that you must have someone else tell you what your opinion is. Most of us here can think for ourselves and don't need a brain transfusion to know what we think. We can do our own research and come to our own conclusions.

I know that the Supreme court is WRONG on Roe v Wade, and they are also WRONG on Kelo v New London. They are also WRONG on Wong Kim Ark. It must be a comfort to you to not have to worry that the court ever gets anything wrong, but those of us who have a better understanding of the real world can afford no such fantasy.

Again, sorry for your condition.

204 posted on 01/27/2012 12:58:07 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: douginthearmy
Well, the ladies do call me "Tripod".

I think a euphemism for "third leg" suits you better.

205 posted on 01/27/2012 1:00:53 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Jurisdiction clause? Really? So Barack was not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States at the time of his birth? What planet are you from?

those of us who have a better understanding of the real world can afford no such fantasy

That's rich. Well, I guess the "real world" consists of 3 crackpot lawyers and 7 guys with a webring.

206 posted on 01/27/2012 1:13:18 PM PST by douginthearmy (Obamagebra: 1 job + 1 hope + 1 change = 0 jobs + 0 hope)
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To: douginthearmy
Jurisdiction clause? Really? So Barack was not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States at the time of his birth?

Don't know where he was born. He claims Hawaii, but Hawaii will give a birth certificate to the child of any Hawaiian resident, regardless of where the child is born. Apart from that, Barack wouldn't even send a copy of what Hawaii sent him to the judge. Funny that. So yeah, it's an open question whether Barack was subject to the jurisdiction of this country or not. At the moment it looks like a birth in White Rock Canada is a plausible guess. It is right on the border with Blaine Washington where Stanley's Aunt Eleanor lived, and in 1961 it was a common practice to send unmarried pregnant(or in this case an interracial pregnancy) girls away to live with a relative. Blaine didn't have a hospital, but White Rock did. Stanley Ann showing up at the University of Washington 15 days later makes a lot more sense if she was already *IN* Washington.

What planet are you from?

Planet reality. You should come visit sometime. Here, we don't make sh*t up and we don't believe a liar just because he says so.

That's rich. Well, I guess the "real world" consists of 3 crackpot lawyers and 7 guys with a webring.

I'm of the opinion that most lawyers are crackpots. Apparently the legal system has to break them of critical thinking before they are allowed to yammer in front of judges.

In any case, if you want to argue that Barack is a 14th amendment citizen, then that proves he is disqualified. Natural born citizens didn't need the 14th amendment to be "citizens."

207 posted on 01/27/2012 1:35:10 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Ratman83

Cuddle up with your 8th grade deploma.


208 posted on 01/27/2012 1:43:46 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: DiogenesLamp
In any case, if you want to argue that Barack is a 14th amendment citizen, then that proves he is disqualified. Natural born citizens didn't need the 14th amendment to be "citizens."

That is correct. Citizenship, as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776.

209 posted on 01/27/2012 1:50:13 PM PST by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: transducer; 50mm; darkwing104; Arrowhead1952; Darksheare; onyx; TheOldLady; Lady Jag; Allegra; ...

DU Troll ZOT!!

210 posted on 01/27/2012 4:23:40 PM PST by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Josephat
Josephat said:

US Citizens are naturalized or natural born. Yes they are EITHER naturalized or natural born. The two are not the same no matter how much you try to make them.

Citizens are either Citizens of the United States or Natural Born Citizens. There are no other classes of citizenship recognized by the U.S. Constitution.

211 posted on 01/27/2012 4:30:39 PM PST by devattel
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To: transducer

212 posted on 01/27/2012 4:37:12 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: douginthearmy
You guys do realize there is a reason that Mark Levin completely dismisses you right?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hm?...Let me guess!

1) Mark Levin is a cowardly phony.

2) Mark Levin loves money more than truth.

213 posted on 01/27/2012 4:37:55 PM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: douginthearmy
You guys do realize there is a reason that Mark Levin completely dismisses you right?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hm?...Let me guess!

1) Mark Levin is a cowardly phony.

2) Mark Levin loves money more than truth.

214 posted on 01/27/2012 4:37:55 PM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: TheOldLady; transducer
Good zot and I especially enjoyed this one. Not only was he or she stupid, they were nothing more than a Barry boot licker. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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215 posted on 01/27/2012 4:56:31 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: jeffo

Tex-Con was finally zapped?!


216 posted on 01/27/2012 10:32:16 PM PST by Bikkuri
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To: Bikkuri; jeffo
"Tex-Con was finally zapped?!"

Wait, what? I would've thought that I'd have received an ozone-flavored Ping if that had happened. Did I miss something like that? Really?

217 posted on 01/28/2012 7:51:29 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: transducer

LOL

Oh no, liberals will think a Southern state is backwards! Wht ever will we do?!

Thankfully we have newbies like you to set us heathens straight.


219 posted on 01/28/2012 3:27:04 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: Admin Moderator; mojitojoe; Fantasywriter; LucyT; little jeremiah; Red Steel; azishot; ...

This one is for your lunch.

While you’re at it, here is the desert.

Newt would tell ya: with friends like this, who needs enemies?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2839755/posts?page=5#5

This troll signed in on 1/28/2012 and almost exclusively went to spread his “concerns” on the eligibility threads!

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:harlan1196/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change

0b0z0’s army of cockroaches needs the bright light of ZOT to scatter them out of our building and into the wind.

We all are expecting a war this election cycle. This is the vanguard of the communist troops to soften the opposition while their Brown Shirts started the rough stuff in Oakland after their training in Indiana and Wisconsin.

Of course, Law and Order morphed into what is MSM-accepted as “Law and H0lder,” which means, L0wly H0lder Rules!


220 posted on 01/30/2012 12:03:24 PM PST by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist)
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