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Witnesses: Benghazi attack was planned (and young people were told to chant against film)
Press Herald ^ | Posted: October 28 | By MAGGIE MICHAEL The Associated Press

Posted on 10/29/2012 6:43:07 AM PDT by mgist

Edited on 10/29/2012 6:49:17 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

But they also say young people were told to chant against an anti-Islam film as a cover for the assault.

TRIPOLI, Libya - It began around nightfall on Sept. 11 with about 150 bearded gunmen, some wearing the Afghan-style tunics favored by Islamic militants, sealing off the streets leading to the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi. They set up roadblocks with pickup trucks mounted with heavy machine guns, according to witnesses.


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To: mgist
Why do the terrorists seem like they are coordinating plans and talking points with the US State Department?

Probably because "the Taliban are in the building," as the security guy Nordstrom [sp?] said.

the lawyer was probably from CAIR.

21 posted on 10/29/2012 9:23:55 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

The Walid Shoebat article?


22 posted on 10/29/2012 9:27:36 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: mgist

It’s outrageous what the Traitor has done to that man.

It’s is the first I’ve heard that he was a pastor...


23 posted on 10/29/2012 9:28:21 PM PDT by uncitizen (Arrest him for treason today!)
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To: mgist

The ambassador’s last meeting of the day was about 8 PM Libya time. The attack started anywhere from 9:30 to 10:45 depending on the source.


24 posted on 10/29/2012 9:31:59 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: mgist

One witness to the consulate attack Tuesday night said that a handful of Libyan soldiers dressed in the uniform of the new national army were on patrol outside the U.S. diplomatic structure when the mob arrived, but that they were almost immediately overwhelmed. The witness said the Libyan forces concentrated on evacuating Libyan civilians attending a private wedding on the same street as the consulate when the armed militants started opening fire. “There were many people there who were trying to get to safety,” said the man, a Benghazi resident who declined to be named because he feared retaliation from the militants. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444426404577647060576633348.html


25 posted on 10/29/2012 9:33:52 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: TLI

2012 spring : (NORTH AFRICA : IN SPRING 2012 SMALL TEAMS OF SPECIAL FORCES ARRIVED AT US EMBASSIES : THE MISSION IS TO SET UP A NETWORK THAT COULD QUICKLY STRIKE A TERRORIST TARGET OR RESCUE A HOSTAGE) (Excerpt) Read more at hosted.ap.org ...————White House widening covert war in North Africa , AP ^ | 10/3/2012 | Kimberly Dozier Posted on 10/03/2012 12:05:58 PM PDT by mojito


26 posted on 10/29/2012 9:46:03 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: mgist

JULY 27, 2012 : (REPORT : OBAMA DOJ OFFICIAL TOM PEREZ MET WITH HARDCORE ISLAMISTS INCLUDING ISNA’S MOHAMMED MAGID) ... an October 2011 Daily Caller report, which described a D.C. meeting between Perez and hardcore Islamists, including Mohamed Magid, the Sudan-born, Saudi-trained head of the Islamic Society of North America.
At the end of the public meeting, Perez called more meetings with the Islamists, even though he had watched while Magid called for legal punishment of people who criticize Islamic texts that call for violence against non-Muslims and for the subordination of women to men.(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...—————DoJ official refuses to denounce demands for Saudi-style blasphemy law, The Daily Caller ^ | 7/27/12 | Neil Munro Posted on Friday, July 27, 2012 8:35:53 PM by Nachum
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...another connection between Obama and the Muslim Brotherhood’s shariah effort is Ingrid Mattson, the Islamic Law prof from Hartford Seminary who was invited to the DNC convention in Denver in 2008.
See “Meet Ingrid Mattson - Islam professor mixes Islamism, academics, and politics. ,” National Review Online ^ | September 11, 2008 | Jonathan Schanzer , September 11, 2008, 2:00 p.m.
17 posted on Saturday, July 28, 2012 2:58:29 AM by piasa | To 1
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ISNA is also associated with Hamas’ Mousa Abu Marzook who shifted his operations to syria...
And Sami al Arian of Tampa Florida’s Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
Obama sure does have strange bedfellows.
21 posted on Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:46:38 AM by piasa | To 20


27 posted on 10/29/2012 9:55:44 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa
Thanks for the info, got it in the bag.



The counter terror effort indicates that the administration has been worried for some time about a growing threat posed by al-Qaida and its offshoots in North Africa.

On the subject of developing a special operations unit, U.S. officials received approval from Congress well before the Benghazi attack to reprogram some funding in the budget that could be used for the commando program in Libya. But the details are still being discussed with the Libyans and also must get final approval from Congress, according to the defense official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the matter publicly.

The initial cost is estimated at about $6.2 million.

6.2 million?

That's it?

They are waiting for "final approval" for over a year for 6.2 mill?

It does not sound like the administration was THAT worried about growing threats posed by al-Qaida and its offshoots in North Africa.

It sounds just like "we are studying that" or "we have that under investigation."

This is about all you get in the way of an answer on anything from “the current administration."

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28 posted on 10/29/2012 10:18:29 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: livius
APRIL 2, 2012 : ("MYSTERIOUS IMAGE" THREATENS THE RETURN TO NY OF AQ) SNIPPET: “NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said the image appeared in the “artwork and design” section of a murky site used as a forum for terror talk. A mysterious image threatening the return to New York of Al Qaeda has appeared on a handful of Arabic websites, prompting the New York police department and federal authorities to investigate.” ----------“Al Qaeda ‘coming soon’ to NYC, graphic warns” By Jana Winter Published April 02, 2012, http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/02/al-qaeda-coming-soon-to-nyc-graphic-warns/ Graphic: http://a57.foxnews.com/static/managed/img/World/396/223/Al%20Qaeda%20Coming%20New%20York2.jpg 17 posted on Monday, April 02, 2012 9:09:13 PM by Cindy

MAY 1, 2012 : (LIBYA) May 1: Deputy Commander of U.S. Embassy Tripoli’s Local Guard Force is carjacked, beaten, and detained by armed youth. ------An Incriminating Timeline: Obama Administration and Libya, Heritage ^ | October 8, 2012 | Helle Dale ; Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:27:05 PM by Ron C.

MAY 1, 2012 : (LIBYA) May 1: British Embassy in Tripoli is attacked by a violent mob and set on fire. Other NATO embassies attacked as well. ------An Incriminating Timeline: Obama Administration and Libya, Heritage ^ | October 8, 2012 | Helle Dale ; Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:27:05 PM by Ron C.

MAY 3, 2012 : (LIBYA) May 3: The State Department declines a request from personnel concerned about security at the U.S. Embassy in Libya for a DC-3 plane to take them around the country. ------An Incriminating Timeline: Obama Administration and Libya, Heritage ^ | October 8, 2012 | Helle Dale ; Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:27:05 PM by Ron C.

MAY 6, 2012 SUN : (YEMEN : AL-QUSO IS KILLED---See USS COLE)

MAY 20-21, 2012 : (CHICAGO, IL : NATO SUMMIT IS SCHEDULED 20, 21 --TURKEY BLOCKS ISRAELI PARTICIPATION?)

c MAY 2012 : (AT THIS TIME AS ISRAEL SEEKS TO DISCUSS FURTHER RADICALIZATION IN THE ARAB WORLD "THE AMERICANS PREFERRED TO FIND EXCUSES") [Israeli] Foreign Ministry official on signs of ‘radicalization’ in Arab world: ‘We knew what was happening, but the Americans preferred to find excuses.’ ......For months before the most recent attacks on U.S. embassies in North African states, Foreign Ministry and U.S. State Department officials had been arguing over developments in these countries. Senior figures in Jerusalem claimed that Washington was burying its head in the sand and ignoring the increasing radicalization in states such as Tunisia and Egypt. (Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...--------Israeli Foreign Ministry officials say U.S. ignored Arab wrath, Haaretz ^ | Sep.16, 2012 | 1:01 AM | Barak Ravid Posted on Saturday, September 15, 2012 8:15:34 PM by Hunton Peck

MAY 22, 2012 : (LIBYA) May 22: Two rocket-propelled grenades are fired at the Benghazi office of the International Committee of the Red Cross, less than 1 mile from the U.S. Consulate. ------An Incriminating Timeline: Obama Administration and Libya, Heritage ^ | October 8, 2012 | Helle Dale ; Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:27:05 PM by Ron C.

MAY 2012 : (US CONGRESS : HOUSE &THE INTERNET----SEE 1ST AMENDMENT) House lawmakers will consider an international proposal next week to give the United Nations more control over the Internet. The proposal is backed by China, Russia, Brazil, India and other UN members, and would give the UN’s International Telecommunication Union (ITU) more control over the governance of the Internet. Next week’s hearing is expected to bring more attention in the U.S. to the measure, which would give the UN more control over cybersecurity, data privacy, technical standards and the Web’s address system. It would also allow foreign government-owned Internet providers to charge extra for international traffic and allow for more... --------House to examine plan for United Nations to regulate the Internet, THE HILL ^ | 05/26/12 08:10 AM ET | Brendan Sasso , Saturday, May 26, 2012 11:18:13 AM · by BenLurkin

2012 : (AFTER AQIM SPREADS ACROSS THE SAHARA AND TAKES CONTROL OF THE NORTHERN PART OF MALI, THE WHITE HOUSE HOLDS A SERIES OF MEETINGS ABOUT AQIM GAINING STRENGTH)....Even before the attack on the U.S. compound, according to an Oct. 2, 2012 report in The Washington Post, the White House held a series of secret meetings that came out of a growing concern that "al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb" (AQIM) was gaining strength after it took control of the northern parts of the African state of Mali, where it created a new Afghan-like sanctuary.
In the last year it has begun to spread its influence across the Sahara.
AQIM's weaponry came from post-Gadhafi Libya, whose arsenal was boosting the arms trade from Morocco to Sinai. Israeli sources have noted that Libyan weapons, including shoulder-fired SA-7 anti-aircraft missiles, were also reaching the Gaza Strip...Moreover, it was unveiled at the end of September by journalist Eli Lake that a U.S. government study this past August reported how the leadership of al-Qaida in Pakistan dispatched senior commanders to North Africa to help build its new network there. This is a pattern found elsewhere. ...--------Benghazi's meaning for Israel and the Mideast, Israel Hayom ^ | 10/19/2012 | Dore Gold Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2012 11:55:09 AM by mojito

This happened in early june but supposedly we were not certain we got him then, it took a while to confirm:

JUNE 4, 2012 : (PAKISTAN : AL LIBI aka "LION OF LIBYA" IS KILLED IN A DRONE ATTACK-----see ALQAEDA, ZARQAWI, AND BENGHAZI LIBYA)

June 2012 : A terrorist website posts photos of ambassador Stevens as he jogs in Tripoli [other sources say Benghazi], and a threat is posted... looks like someone was on the prowl for him at least as early as June.

June 6, 2012 : An IED is used to blow a hole in the perimiter wall around our mission in Benghazi

Junw 6, 2012 : canada closes its embassy in Tehran, Iran

June 10, 2012 : The British ambassador's car is attacked in Tripoli and two bodyguards are injured

June 11, 2012 : Terrorists post a youtube video about the June 6 bombing of the wall at the US mission in Benghazi

JUNE 2012 : (EGYPT : AN ISLAMIC BIGWIG, SAFWAT HAGAZY, AT A CAMPIGN RALLY FOR THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD, CLAIMS THAT IF THE MB CANDIDATE MORSI WINS THE PRESIDENCY, EGYPT'S CAPITAL WILL MOVE FROM CAIRO TO JERUSALEM----see OIC)------Jerusalem to Be the Capital of ... What?, DianeWest.net ^ | 11JUN12 | Diane West, Monday, June 11, 2012 5:07:56 PM · by bayouranger

JUNE 17, 2012 : (IL : SUBVERSIVE HIZB-UT-TAHRIR "CALIPHATE CONFERENCE" IS TO BE HELD IN ROLLING MEADOWS IL NEAR CHICAGO ) Hizb ut-Tahrir is an international Islamic organization that openly calls for restoration of the caliphate -- that is, the political union of Muslims worldwide in a single Sharia state ruled by the caliph. This means that the group is dedicated to subverting and destroying all governments not ruled by Islamic law, and as such it is banned in many countries. But not in the U.S., which has never shown any awareness on an official level of non-violent efforts to impose Sharia. They're once again coming to the Chicago area to hold their Caliphate Conference: it will be held on June 17 in Rolling Meadows, Illinois.
What is especially noteworthy about this is that absolutely none of the self-professed "moderate" Muslim leaders in the U.S. will disavow Hizb ut-Tahrir or its goals. And note also that these people have no problem getting space in a hotel for their conference advocating a political system that will destroy freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and equality of rights of all people before the law, but freedom fighters trying to resist Sharia and Islamization are hounded out of public spaces with increasing frequency.------Caliphate conference coming to Chicago area, Jihad Watch ^ | 5-30-12 Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:49:28 PM by SJackson

JUNE 19, 2012 : (MEXICO : OBAMA MEETS WITH PUTIN ABOUT SYRIA)

JUNE 26, 2012 : (RUSH LIMBAUGH TALKS ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON'S DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF HUMA ABEDIN HAVING FAMILIAL TIES TO EGYPTIAN PRESIDENT MORSI'S WIFE ---See MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD)

JUNE 29, 2012 : (EGYPT : IN HIS FIRST PUBLIC SPEECH SINCE THE ELECTIONS, EGYPT'S PRESIDENT-ELECT MORSI VOWS TO FREE THE BLIND SHEIKH)

JUNE 2012 late : (LIBYA : ANOTHER ATTACK ON THE RED CROSS IN BENGHAZI; THE RED CROSS PULLS OUT)

If I remember right, wasn't June/july when the "Innocence of Muslims" video was first posted to the web?

There was also at that time another video- not dirty as this was was described but better produced and better aimed at defanging islamic radicalism- due to come out or in the making at that time against islamic radicalism... this second video was briefly assumed by the press to be the one the state dept kept pushing. It has now been pretty much buried.

Sept 11, 2012 : A few hours before the attack on the embassy , al Qaeda's Zawahiri- whose name is never uttered by Obama for fear we would forget that he killed bin Laden and ended the War on Terror and the war on Biden's friends the Taliban - released a tape calling for revenge against the US for our drone kill of al Libi in Pakistan.

29 posted on 10/29/2012 10:57:30 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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The guy sitting in jail had violated two court decisions, one of which was not to use the internet, I forget what the other was but he apparently violated that as well. Judges don’t like to be ignored.


30 posted on 10/29/2012 11:01:28 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: TLI

JUNE 14, 2012 Thu : (OBAMA “NEW AFRICA STRATEGY” TO BE RELEASED TODAY.... ECONOMIC, UNICORN RANCHING, ETC)


31 posted on 10/29/2012 11:02:15 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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Source for above : Obama to unveil new Africa strategy, AFP ^ | June 13, 2012 | Stephen Collinson

From what I can tell, Obama’s “new comprehensive Africa strategy” was to flub it all up and let China take over.


32 posted on 10/29/2012 11:05:48 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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AUGUST 20, 2012 : (AFRICA : ) Mali’s Islamist warlord declares war on the West, channel4.com ^ | 20AUG12 | Lindsey Hilsum Posted on Monday, August 20, 2012 4:03:05 PM by bayouranger
islam + magic = WTF?


33 posted on 10/29/2012 11:07:12 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa

After Mali’s warlord declared war on us On August 20, and the Benghazi mission was hit, ....

SEPTEMBER 1, 2012 : (MALI’S INTERIM PRES TRAORE ASKS ECOWAS FOR AIR SUPPORT TO FIGHT ISLAMIC INSURGENTS IN THE NORTH) The military chiefs of 15 West Africa nations have begun deliberations to “finalize a roadmap” for an armed intervention in Mali, whose northern half is occupied by al-Qaida-linked Islamists. Interim President Dioncounda Traore on Sept. 1 asked the Economic Community of West African States, or ECOWAS, for air support to destroy rebel bases and for five battalions to help reconquer northern towns. The meeting’s agenda includes a review of that request and a presentation of a deployment plan. pppppWest African Military Chiefs Meet to Plan Mali Move ABC ^ | September 14, 2012 | AP Friday, September 14, 2012 5:15:10 PM · by JerseyanExile

SEPTEMBER 2012 : (LIBYA : MAGARIAF SAYS BENGHAZI ATTACKERS CAME FROM MALI & ALGERIA) The attack on the US Consulate in Benghazi that killed American ambassador Chris Stevens was pre-planned and included foreigners, Libyan President said yesterday. President of Libya’s National Congress, Mohamed Magariaf, in an interview to the CBS news aired yesterday said his government has arrested about 50 people, some of which are foreigners and connected to al-Qaeda. “They entered Libya from different directions, and some of them definitely from Mali and Algeria,” he said. “These ugly deeds, criminal deeds were directed against them, the late ambassador, Chris Stevens, and his colleagues, does not represent in any way, in any sense, the... -——Attack on US embassy in Benghazi pre-planned: Libyan Prez, The Mumbai First Post ^ | September 17, 2012 Monday


34 posted on 10/29/2012 11:15:33 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: TLI; no-to-illegals; All

A very interesting series of connections. However, politically it does not make sense for Obama to have a bunch of hostages taken to be traded for the blind Sheikh. If that scenario had happened he would have looked weak, not electable. I look forward to studying the links.

On a somewhat related conspiracy line, do you have any idea if there is something funny about Grover Norquist’s Muslim connections as has been reported here at FR? Having all Republicans sign a no tax pledge is a very effective way to completely snarl up our government, as we have seen.


35 posted on 10/29/2012 11:16:54 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: piasa

Placemark.


36 posted on 10/29/2012 11:18:04 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: butterdezillion

You are awesome. Nice interesting and well written post.


37 posted on 10/29/2012 11:20:35 PM PDT by Professional
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To: TLI

The attackers brought a Jerry tank of diesel fuel? Seem odd? They knew the layout and wante to smoke them out, alive.

Must say though, that the conspiracy is a bit too wild for me. The parts are there but it’s a big piece that is missing.


38 posted on 10/29/2012 11:28:50 PM PDT by Professional
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To: livius
I’m puzzled as to why this is being ignored. Obama and State clearly had planned in advance to attribute jihadi violence in the ME (which they must have known was coming, particularly on the anniversary of 9/11) to this video, and once Obama and State began preaching it earlier with the attack in Egypt, it also served to give the leaders a convenient rallying cry for a mob that was not necessarily made up of confirmed AQ members but certainly served the purposes of the AQ leaders and organized attackers. Don’t forget that Gen. Dempsey was tasked with running to the phone to call Terry Jones, that obscure Gainesville, Florida backwoods pastor that Obama has turned into a boogeyman, to pressure him not to show the video to his congregation, which he had evidently planned to do. Terry Jones had nothing to do with Egypt or Benghazi, and was a private citizen exercising his rights; but obviously, a private citizen that Obama & Co. keep under surveillance at all times. I’m surprised Gen. Dempsey’s disgraceful action has received so little attention, even on FR. It’s unheard of in the history of the US, to my knowledge, to have a very, very senior military person put pressure on a private citizen to stop him from doing something that it was, furthermore, the citizen’s constitutionally protected right to do.

Consider, on September 12, 2012 AP interviewed the so called film maker, who identified himself as an Israeli Jew, named Sam Bacile. Think there was no intent to inflame? We already know Obama's state department was apologizing for this so called offensive video before any uprising began anywhere.

From the interview I saw with Terry Jones, he was contacted by 'Sam Bacile' to promote the video, when General Dempsey was ordered to make public his personal call to dissuade preacher Jones from promoting this so called video. How is it that Obama and Clinton knew in advance all this specific information regarding an unknown film maker. I think they knew what was in the works from the git-go in anticipation of orchestrating world wide Muslim reaction to a Israeli Jew and a Christian preacher mocking their god. Look what their Egyptian leader was demanding. Laws to prevent anyone from speaking out about their god.

I think Obama and Clinton got caught with their pants down at the Benghazi weapons depot, decided the priority was to NOT reveal what they were actually doing in Benghazi. To have defended the Americans would by necessity exposed their weapons depot. So with their offensive video operation in progress they used the video as cover-up to keep secret their weapons stash. See I think Obama gets intel outside of normal government channels. Look who has his ear 24/7, Axelrod and Jarrett.

39 posted on 10/29/2012 11:39:06 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: Just mythoughts
Consider, on September 12, 2012 AP interviewed the so called film maker, who identified himself as an Israeli Jew, named Sam Bacile.

Link please.

40 posted on 10/29/2012 11:53:19 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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