Posted on 11/20/2013 2:33:43 PM PST by mandaladon
The genome of a young boy buried at Mal’ta near Lake Baikal in eastern Siberia some 24,000 years ago has turned out to hold two surprises for anthropologists. The first is that the boy’s DNA matches that of Western Europeans, showing that during the last Ice Age people from Europe had reached farther east across Eurasia than previously supposed. Though none of the Mal’ta boy’s skin or hair survive, his genes suggest he would have had brown hair, brown eyes and freckled skin.
The second surprise is that his DNA also matches a large proportion — some 25 percent — of the DNA of living Native Americans. The first people to arrive in the Americas have long been assumed to have descended from Siberian populations related to East Asians. It now seems that they may be a mixture between the Western Europeans who had reached Siberia and an East Asian population.
The Mal’ta boy was aged 3 to 4 and was buried under a stone slab wearing an ivory diadem, a bead necklace and a bird-shaped pendant. Elsewhere at the same site some 30 Venus figurines were found of the kind produced by the Upper Paleolithic cultures of Europe. The remains were excavated by Russian archaeologists over a 20-year period ending in 1958 and stored in museums in St. Petersburg.
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this should have been posted under “religion” and THEN “news/activism”
LOL
spit
it is just me but any witness to JESUS CHRIST is undeniable
because i am not the judge
LOL
another study of the genome of “native Americans” I read recently suggests some of the migrations from Asia to the Americans were migrations of people (now long forgotten) who were of mixed East-Asian and European ancestry, as well as such people (mixed) who inter-married with people of east-Asian ancestry, in Asia and/or after migrating from Asia.
How, brother.
We walked, that's how.
“This story just highlights the point that there is really no such thing as a “native” American. Some people arrived early, some later.”
Yeah, the Europeans wanted it, and they had better technology and a huge population, so they took it—as has always been done, throughout human history.
This time, though, the advent of the concept that taking people’s land is not good was nigh, so the Europeans allow the Indians to guilt trip and intimidate the snot out of them.
Never mind that the Indians were the same way; when we do it it’s baaaaaaad.
Manifest Destiny will rise again.
“mixed East-Asian and European ancestry, as well as such people (mixed) who inter-married with people of east-Asian ancestry, in Asia and/or after migrating from Asia.”
The legendary hottitide of Asian chicks plays a role in the history of humanity. I bow my head.
"Paleoindian specialist Kenneth Tankersley believes archaeology is only beginning to scratch the surface of the debate. "Variation in the languages and DNA of American Indians not only suggests there were multiple migrations from a number of different homelands, but they imply that the first wave of people arrived in the Americas more than 30,000 years ago. This suggests archaeologists should be looking in older geological strata." "
“The legendary hottitide of Asian chicks plays a role in the history of humanity. I bow my head.”
more likely it’s simply what happens when some generations of “migrants” settle in an area for a time, and an area that already has some folks who arrived at a different time, and by means both peaceful and otherwise “mixed marriages” occur, and some generations later some of THOSE folks are migrating somewhere else;
other than the more obvious physical differences between 100% “European” and 100% “East Asian” -
(a) the inter-marrying of “mixed people” over time was no different in Asia, particularly central Asia and northern East Asia than it was in Europe (what does it mean to be “French” - it means to be possibly part “native to Gaul”, part Roman, part Celt, part German (the “Franks from Frankfurt), part Scandanavian-Germanic (the Norse/Normans) as well as maybe some part “native” ‘Iberian’ and who knows what else;
and
(b) in Central Asia, north to south of it, you find tons of people - not just individuals but whole groups - where they clearly represent a mixture of European and Asian ancestry, and some of that mixing goes back farther than what history of it our historians know.
DNA is going to reveal it all eventually. We’ll have interactive maps of human migration for at least the past 40,000 years. Kind of exciting and amazing.
If you look at a map of Africa you’ll see that it’s all part of Africa.
That part of the world is a s close to Asia as it is to Africa. It has never—to my knowledge—been considered part of Africa. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
In current usage, the Fertile Crescent has a minimum extent and a maximum extent. All definitions include Mesopotamia, the land in and around the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. The modern-day countries with significant territory within the Fertile Crescent are Iraq, Kuwait, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Israel, and Occupied Palestinian territories, besides the southeastern fringe of Turkey and the western fringe of Iran.
You'll notice that these countries are part of Africa. Egypt and the Nile are in the northern part of Africa. Hence .......
If you’ll back out from that close-in image and look at where those countries are located you’ll see that they’re in Africa, esp. Egypt.
Yes. Very much so.
Did you kinow about the new humans that were found in Siberia?
"Denisova hominins /dəˈniːsəvə/, or Denisovans, are Paleolithic-era members of a species of Homo or subspecies of Homo sapiens. In March 2010, scientists announced the discovery of a finger bone fragment of a juvenile female who lived about 41,000 years ago, found in the remote Denisova Cave in the Altai Mountains in Siberia, a cave which has also been inhabited by Neanderthals and modern humans.[1][2][3] Two teeth and a toe bone belonging to different members of the same population have since been reported.
Analysis of the mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) of the finger bone showed it to be genetically distinct from the mtDNAs of Neanderthals and modern humans.[4] Subsequent study of the nuclear genome from this specimen suggests that this group shares a common origin with Neanderthals, that they ranged from Siberia to Southeast Asia, and that they lived among and interbred with the ancestors of some present-day modern humans, with up to 6% of the DNA of Melanesians and Australian Aborigines deriving from Denisovans.[5][6]
A comparison with the genome of a Neanderthal from the same cave revealed significant local interbreeding, with local Neanderthal DNA representing 17% of the Denisovan genome, while evidence was also detected of interbreeding with an as yet unidentified ancient human lineage.[7] Similar analysis of a toe bone discovered in 2011 is underway,[8] while analysis of DNA from two teeth found in different layers than the finger bone revealed an unexpected degree of mtDNA divergence among Denisovans.[
“more likely it’s simply what happens”
Maybe, but...that’s not funny.
But that is not the way it was taught when I was in school.
Perhaps 40k years past was a conservative estimate of the detail we'll have in the future.
Well no matter. It’s a fun thing to bring up every now and then. :)
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