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Turkish Minister: Muslims Discovered the Earth is Round
Arutz Sheva ^ | 30/11/14 | Tova Dvorin

Posted on 11/30/2014 3:19:26 PM PST by Eleutheria5

The Turkish Science Minister has become the latest public figure to make outrageous claims over Islam's hand in science and technology, the Hurriyet Daily News reported Friday - this time, claiming that Muslims discovered that the world is round.

"Some 700-800 years before Galileo, 71 Muslim scientists led by al-Khwarizmi convened by the order of the Caliph Al-Ma'mun and revealed that the Earth is a sphere," Minister Fikri stated on Thursday.

Fikri further claimed that a copy of the original document proving Islam's role in astronomy is currently in the Museum of Islamic Science and Technology in Istanbul.

The Earth was widely regarded as flat until the 3rd century BCE, when the Hellenists proposed that the Earth was a sphere based on astronomical calculations. Plato was among the early supporters of the concept of a spherical Earth, writing in Phaedo that "my conviction is that the earth is a round body in the centre of the heavens, and therefore has no need of air or of any similar force to be a support."

Fikri's statement does have a kernel of merit to it: indeed, around 830 AD, Caliph Al-Ma'mun did commission a group of Muslim scientists to calculate the Earth's circumference, using measurements of the distance from Tadmur (Palmyra) to Raqqah, the current capital of ISIS in Syria. The commission did, in fact, reach measurements close to modern values.

Fikri's fundamental error, however, is in who Galileo Galilei was; instead of pioneering Western acceptance of the Earth as a sphere, he supported heliocentrism, the theory that the Earth revolves around the Sun. He was subsequently persecuted by the Roman Catholic Church in the seventeenth century for holding these views.

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The Greeks actually were the first to figure out that it was a sphere and calculate the circumference based on scientific observation. But Ptolemy erred in believing that it was a perfect sphere, and therefore underestimated the actual size.

But back to the Jive Turkeys and their made-up Islamic accomplishments. They have to make them up. They have no real ones.

1 posted on 11/30/2014 3:19:26 PM PST by Eleutheria5
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To: Eleutheria5
IIRC, Eratosthenes demonstrated the Earth was round and calculated the circumference based upon observations of the sun's apogee illuminating the depths of a well, approximately a millennium before the birth of Mohammed.

"Dia shábháil ar fad anseo!"
This is the Arabic character "nun" – the first letter of the word "Nazarene." I post it as my avatar in solidarity with people of all faiths suffering persecution at the hands of Islam. Many of them are members of the oldest of our Christian Communities, dating from the days of the Apostles. They endure cruel, merciless and unrelenting persecution. They are Orthodox and Catholic, Protestant and Evangelical, Coptic, Pentecostal, and Baptist. To the persecutors they, and we, are all "Nazarenes."

2 posted on 11/30/2014 3:23:33 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in Battle!)
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To: Eleutheria5

Camel doots.


3 posted on 11/30/2014 3:24:48 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Eleutheria5

The astronauts were actually filmed in a secret studio in Istanbul.

Cuz Tayyip Recep Erdogan knows its a Muslim achievement.

The Americans made the moon landing all up.


4 posted on 11/30/2014 3:25:10 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Eleutheria5
Muslim scientists led by al-Khwarizmi convened by the order of the Caliph Al-Ma'mun and revealed that the Earth is a sphere

Much like the backside of a goat!


5 posted on 11/30/2014 3:25:43 PM PST by humblegunner (Why hello, Captain Trips.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Obama has NASA complicit with this.
Their current focus is to make muzzies feel good about their accomplishments in space.
And this dovetails nicely with Barry big ears “everything Islam is superior” outlook.


6 posted on 11/30/2014 3:26:25 PM PST by Darksheare (People who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Muslims discovered dentistry

7 posted on 11/30/2014 3:27:57 PM PST by Brother Cracker (You are more likely to find krugerrands in a Cracker Jack box than 22 ammo at Wal-Mart)
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To: Eleutheria5
The Greeks actually were the first to figure out that it was a sphere

Not quite:

"He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth" Isaiah 40:22

8 posted on 11/30/2014 3:28:28 PM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Eleutheria5

It was Eratosthenes, actually, who correctly measured the circumference of the Earth in something like 220 BC, long before Mohammed lopped off his first head.


9 posted on 11/30/2014 3:30:06 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: rjsimmon

I know, I know. I said based on scientific observation. Divine Wisdom doesn’t count as scientific observation.


10 posted on 11/30/2014 3:30:13 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Brother Cracker

I think he’s supposed to be a hygienist.


11 posted on 11/30/2014 3:31:37 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Haha.

Eratosthenes

“c. 276 BC[1] – c. 195/194 BC[2]) was a Greek mathematician, geographer, poet, astronomer, and music theorist.”

“He is best known for being the first person to calculate the circumference of the Earth, which he did by applying a measuring system using stades, or the length of stadia during that time period. His calculation was remarkably accurate.”

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes

So, if he was the first person to calculate the circumference, for how long earlier was it commonly accepted that the earth is round.


12 posted on 11/30/2014 3:32:23 PM PST by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: Brother Cracker

Floss, or you get to see Achmed, the hygienist.


13 posted on 11/30/2014 3:33:41 PM PST by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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To: Flag_This

Plaque build-up, beware.


14 posted on 11/30/2014 3:35:13 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: rjsimmon

Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.


15 posted on 11/30/2014 3:36:48 PM PST by Fungi
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To: Eleutheria5

fact i..... that most muslims.... still dont get the round earth concept....


16 posted on 11/30/2014 3:38:41 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Eleutheria5

Please. moozlums made some great discoveries, including that goats and camels make great sex partners


17 posted on 11/30/2014 3:39:26 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Darksheare

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D67kmFzSh_o


18 posted on 11/30/2014 3:40:07 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Islamic Advice The Prophet [sallallahu alayhe wa sallam (SAWS)] recommended Muslims to clean their teeth using a miswak every day; especially after waking, when performing wudhu, before salah, when reciting the Qur'an, before sleeping,before self immolation and when the mouth smells bad.


19 posted on 11/30/2014 3:40:27 PM PST by Brother Cracker (You are more likely to find krugerrands in a Cracker Jack box than 22 ammo at Wal-Mart)
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To: Eleutheria5

Lol, very fitting!


20 posted on 11/30/2014 3:41:20 PM PST by Darksheare (People who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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