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Tuscany's Excalibur Is The Real Thing, Say Scientists
The Observer ^ | 9-16-2001 | Rory Carroll

Posted on 09/24/2001 7:46:55 PM PDT by blam

Tuscany's Excalibur is the real thing, say scientists

Rory Carroll in Rome
Sunday September 16, 2001
The Observer

The sword of St Galgano, said to have been plunged into a rock by a medieval Tuscan knight, has been authenticated, bolstering Italy's version of the Excalibur legend. Galgano Guidotti, a noble from Chiusdano, near Siena, allegedly split the stone with his sword in 1180 after renouncing war to become a hermit. For centuries the sword was assumed to be a fake. but research revealed last week has dated its metal to the twelfth century.

Only the hilt, wooden grip and a few inches of the 3ft blade poke from the hill, which still draws pilgrims and tourists to the ruins of the chapel built around it.

'Dating metal is a very difficult task, but we can say that the composition of the metal and the style are compatible with the era of the legend,' said Luigi Garlaschelli, of the University of Pavia. 'We have succeeded in refuting those who maintain that it is a recent fake.'

Ground-penetrating radar analysis revealed that beneath the sword there is a cavity, 2m by 1m, which is thought to be a burial recess, possibly containing the knight's body. 'To know more we have to excavate,' said Garlaschelli, whose findings have been published in Focus magazine.

Carbon-dating confirmed that two mummified hands(DNA?) in the same chapel at Montesiepi were also from the twelfth century. Legend has it that anyone who tried to remove the sword had their arms ripped out.

In English legend the sword Excalibur is pulled from a stone by the future King Arthur, heralding his glory. In Galgano's case the miracle signified humility and holiness.

The son of an illiterate feudal lord, Galgano had a reputation for arrogance and selfishness. After a vision of the Archangel Michael, however, he retired to a cave to become a hermit. Lured out by his family he was thrown by his horse while passing Montesiepi, a hill near Chiusdano, where another vision told him to renounce material things.

Galgano objected that that would be as difficult as splitting a rock and to prove his point he struck one with his sword. The rock, it is said, yielded like butter.


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To: blam
Wow, blam, In several years of being on here I've never heard you speak that way. There IS a real person in there...
I thought you were just the really really smart guy that never flinches and never gets angry.
41 posted on 03/06/2007 5:34:40 PM PST by DavemeisterP (It's never too late to be what you might have been....George Elliot)
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To: DavemeisterP

That was six years ago when I was young and spontaneous, lol.


42 posted on 03/06/2007 6:05:57 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Blam! Holy smoke!!! Laughing.

Now I've gotta read the entire thread to see what prompted this.


43 posted on 03/06/2007 6:25:48 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Watery Tart

This long-dormant thread has your name all over it.


44 posted on 03/06/2007 6:29:17 PM PST by dighton
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To: VaBthang4

Normal people scroll past threads if they aren't interested, instead of showing up and berating people who might have an interest in the subject matter.


45 posted on 03/06/2007 6:35:54 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Xenalyte

Something tells me this is your kinda thing.


46 posted on 03/06/2007 8:19:19 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: parsifal
Soon after Arthur died and his body was taken to the Isle of Avalon where, according to legend, he waits until England needs him again.



So if he is supposed to return one would think it might be during an invasion by a diabolically evil and barbaric enemy who follow a twisted ideology bent on world domination.

Is he hiring?
47 posted on 03/06/2007 8:22:46 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: blam
Archangel Michael was a comet?

Is this him?


48 posted on 03/06/2007 8:41:31 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: LucyT

"Normal" people probably are not interested in this nonsense.


49 posted on 03/07/2007 6:33:35 AM PST by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: VaBthang4
Normal people wouldn't be interested in history, science, religion, or anything else but flipping the TV remote to Oprah and Jerry Springer, right? Maybe screaming at the screen when their favorite football team does something stupid, again. How about spending $125 on ebay for a jacket with Dale Earnheart, Sr.'s likeness on the back? Or, watching Jerry Springer for the intellectual input from others with the same problems we all have? Doing those things makes one normal?

You're right, no one's normal at all that reads any of these threads. Definitely not me, I'm insane. Just ask anyone.

Go away, ----- WANNABE NERD ------
50 posted on 03/10/2007 4:12:09 AM PST by DavemeisterP (It's never too late to be what you might have been....George Elliot)
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To: DavemeisterP

~Eyeroll @ the tedious, dramaqueen effect~

Chuckle, okay champ...you're right. All 49 normal freepers tuned in for this historical, scientifically religious post.


51 posted on 03/10/2007 8:28:38 AM PST by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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Made by Seadog...


52 posted on 03/10/2007 11:51:39 AM PST by Watery Tart (Late as usual! Think of it as a catch-up post....)
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