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Oldest Swords Found In Turkey (3,300BC)
Discovery Channel ^ | 3-25-2003 | Rossella Lorenzi

Posted on 03/30/2003 4:37:06 PM PST by blam

Oldest Swords Found in Turkey

By Rossella Lorenzi, Discovery News

March 25, 2003 — The most ancient swords ever found were forged 5,000 years ago in what is today Turkey, according to Italian archaeologists who announced the results of chemical analysis at a recent meeting in Florence.

Digging at Arslantepe, a site in the Taurus mountains of southeast Anatolia, Marcella Frangipane, professor at the department of historical science, archaeology and anthropology of antiquities of Rome University, found nine swords dating back to about 3,300 B.C.

Blade and hilt were cast in one piece; moreover, three swords were beautifully inlaid with silver.

"Their length ranges from 45 to 60 cm, and this leaves no doubt about their use. They predate of 1,000 years the most ancient swords found in Alaca Hoyuk, still in Turkey," Frangipane told Discovery News.

Analysis of the arsenic-copper alloys indicated great metallurgy skills. When forging the swords, arsenic was used as a deliberate alloying element in order to change the properties of copper and produce a stronger metal.

The swords were found in a large, palace-like complex, along with eleven lance tips, made of the same alloys, driven into a wall.

Dating from 3,350-3,000 B.C., the complex represents the most ancient administrative palace in the Near East.

"In Mesopotamia there are several temple areas, but only at Arslantepe we found a complex with connected buildings, storerooms, and decorated walls. A storeroom contained hundreds of mass-produced bowls, probably used to distribute food to workers," Frangipane said.

The archaeologists also found 2,000 clay lumps, or sealings, which worked like receipts when the contents of bags, jars, and sacks were taken out. Archived and disposed, the sealings made up an administrative and accounting system which worked without any writing but established one of the first examples of bureaucracy.

The swords and the lances were not some accidental findings. Frangipane and her team found other weapons, including another sword, in a royal tomb built right after the destruction of the palace in about 3,000 B.C. It contained a fortune in copper, silver and gold.

"This tomb is not important simply for its weapons and precious metals, but for the detailed insight it can give into the events which destroyed this center. Through the work of Frangipane's team, we can understand, as closely as one can in prehistory, the actions and decisions of people who transformed societies," Henry Wright, professor of anthropology at the University of Michigan and a leading scholar in the study of complex societies and the emergence of civilizations, told Discovery News.

"I believe this is the best work known being done on an early state administrative center in southwest Asia," he said.


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To: blam; jimtorr
Excellent posts! Cool stuff. It's obvious that they'd been making swords for some time, given the discussion in the article about there being silver inlay on them. I''ll be interested if they find other, more primitive ones at lower levels.
21 posted on 03/30/2003 11:03:54 PM PST by zeugma (If you use microsoft products, you are feeding the beast.)
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To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; 24Karet; 2Jedismom; 4ConservativeJustices; ...
another blast from the past.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest
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22 posted on 09/10/2004 10:58:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: Porterville
Nine swords/ Nine rings, ancient times, oh my God!!! We are all gonna die if Frodo doesn't come through.

Call it a hunch, but if he hasn't come through in 3,000 years, I don't think he's gonna.

Time to whip out some nukes.

23 posted on 09/11/2004 2:06:45 AM PDT by uglybiker (EGO sum non taedium pardus)
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To: xJones
"It's a good thing Hans Blix isn't an archaeologist, no swords would have been found."

LOL!! I was thinking exactly along those same lines!

24 posted on 09/11/2004 12:14:14 PM PDT by sneakers
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To: blam

BTTT


25 posted on 09/11/2004 12:16:16 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: blam

Amazing.


26 posted on 09/11/2004 12:17:52 PM PDT by hershey
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To: blam
When forging the swords, arsenic was used as a deliberate alloying element in order to change the properties of copper and produce a stronger metal.

I wonder about the "deliberate"part?

Does he mean they actually cooked off & collected arsenic to add in measured amounts back into the fairly pure molten copper?

Or, does he mean they deliberately smelted their copper from a more/less constant mixture of copper (or other metallic) arsenates/arsenides and other copper ores? Trial & error blending of ores, noting empirical differences, then sticking to 1 part reddish rock to 5 parts shiny rock, etc?

Either way, the alloying and the inlaying speak to a long history of painfully learned craftsmanship prior to the making of these blades & points.

27 posted on 09/11/2004 8:43:02 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: ApplegateRanch
"Either way, the alloying and the inlaying speak to a long history of painfully learned craftsmanship prior to the making of these blades & points."

Yup, the 'mad-hatters' comes to mind.

28 posted on 09/11/2004 8:58:45 PM PDT by blam
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To: ApplegateRanch; blam
Arsenic bronze was fairly common before tin bronze became widespread. Some people suggest that the lame metal-working gods of some mythologies (e.g., Vulcan) are holdovers from an age when metal-workers worked with arsenic, which damaged their health.
29 posted on 09/12/2004 6:22:55 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: blam

Due to the sad neglect of most of Turkey's museums and the rampant trade in stolen antiquities these swords do not have much of a future in Turkey unless they are protected abroad.


30 posted on 09/12/2004 8:20:34 PM PDT by eleni121 (Not all college profs are left wing unionist whackos --but most are.)
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