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Healthcare and Catholics: True and False Arguments
Action Institute ^ | October 14, 2009 | Samuel Gregg D.Phil.

Posted on 12/04/2009 10:49:38 AM PST by GonzoII

October 14, 2009

Healthcare and Catholics: True and False Arguments

by Samuel Gregg D.Phil.

Healthcare reform – it’s one of those causes almost everyone favors, but which almost automatically produces sharp arguments when we ask what it means and how it might be realized. You would have had to be living in a cave for the past eight months to be unaware that Americans are deeply divided on this matter, and that the division runs clean through the middle of many communities. That includes Catholic America.

Of course, there are a small number of non-negotiables for Catholics, whatever their politics, when it comes to healthcare reform. These principally concern any provisions that facilitate or encourage the intentional termination of innocent human life, or which diminish existing conscience exemptions.

Without question, these are the primary issues for Catholics who take their Church’s teaching seriously when it comes to healthcare legislation. They dwarf everything else.

No matter how good the rest of the legislation might be in, for example, widening access to affordable healthcare, it is a stable principle of Catholic faith - and natural law - that you cannot do evil in order that good may come from it. St Paul insisted upon this almost 2000 years ago (Romans 3:8), and it is constantly affirmed by Scripture, Tradition, and centuries of magisterial teaching. Try as they may, no amount of rationalization by the usual suspects can get around this point.

For this reason, much of the Catholic contribution to the healthcare debate, especially that of Catholic bishops, has focused on these issues. We’ve yet to see what impact this might have on whatever eventually arrives on the floor of Congress.

But let’s hypothesize. Imagine the healthcare legislation submitted to Congress involved a massive expansion of government involvement in healthcare. Let’s also suppose that the same legislation was stripped of any provisions that violated non-negotiables for Catholics. Would Catholics be obliged to support passage of such legislation?

The answer is no. When it comes to how we achieve the good end of healthcare reform - such as making it more affordable, universal, and ensuring that the most marginalized are protected - there’s a legitimate diversity of views among Catholics.

The reason for this is simple. While Catholic moral teaching has always insisted that evil acts may never be chosen, it also holds that the realization of good ends (such as making healthcare more affordable and accessible) mostly falls into the realm of prudential judgment. Outside those principles that translate into an obligation to support or work towards direct prohibitions of certain acts, the Catholic Church has always recognized that, within some rather broad parameters, faithful Catholics can disagree about matters such as how we achieve the end of more affordable universal healthcare.

But this very basic point seems to have escaped the attention of those Catholics who seem to imagine that an extension of government involvement in healthcare is by definition the Catholic approach to healthcare reform. It’s curious that the same people who are so utterly absolutist about such prudential matters invariably dissent from the truly non-negotiable injunctions of Catholic moral teaching.

This essential incoherence, however, has not stopped them from assailing the increasing number of American Catholic bishops who have questioned, on prudential grounds, those reform proposals that significantly increase the state’s involvement in healthcare. One Catholic magazine described such critiques as somehow out of step with Catholic teaching and even, oddly enough, as “quasi-libertarian” - as if only self-described “libertarians” would question the wisdom of extending government involvement in healthcare.

It might, however, be that these groups have a deeper concern: their realization that the days when American Catholic bishops could be relied upon to accept or advocate extension of the state’s participation in more-or-less any area of social and economic life are long gone.

In part, this trend reflects the collapse over the past forty years of the knee-jerk association of Catholics with the Democratic Party. But it may also indicate that increasing numbers of Catholic bishops are tired of being presumed to adhere to any number of positions on prudential policy issues simply because one or more departments of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops happen to advocate a particular viewpoint.

Frankly, it’s a welcome development. First, it illustrates that more bishops are not going to be muzzled by a “conference line” (real or imagined) on prudential issues. Moreover, it suggests that, on truly prudential matters, faithful Catholics increasingly recognize they are entitled to reason their way through these subjects on the basis of Catholic principles and knowledge acquired from other sources, instead of being simply assumed to adhere to any number of (invariably left-liberal) positions on such questions.

That’s one part of the old, often-romanticized “Catholic ghetto” that, thankfully, can be consigned to history.



TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: actioninstitute; actoninstitute; catholic; healthcare
 Who is like unto God?........ Lk:10:18:
 And he said to them: I saw Satan like lightning falling from heaven.
1 posted on 12/04/2009 10:49:38 AM PST by GonzoII
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To: GonzoII

The purpose of FOCA was always to disqualify Catholic hospitals from being part of a government run healthcare system. The Bishops will close them rather than perform abortions or Euthanasia. Since 25% of all hospital beds are in buildings with the word “Saint” on the door, the government will declare this a crisis and seize the assets.


2 posted on 12/04/2009 10:54:43 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: GonzoII

I am sick of my bishop’s view of this. If it weren’t for the end of life treatment and abortion issues in this bill, he would be all for it. He reminds us frequently that affordable health care is a human right. I’m getting really tired of it.


3 posted on 12/04/2009 10:55:29 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: GonzoII
....let’s hypothesize. Imagine the healthcare legislation submitted to Congress involved a massive expansion of government involvement in healthcare. Let’s also suppose that the same legislation was stripped of any provisions that violated non-negotiables for Catholics. Would Catholics be obliged to support passage of such legislation?

The answer is no. When it comes to how we achieve the good end of healthcare reform - such as making it more affordable, universal, and ensuring that the most marginalized are protected - there’s a legitimate diversity of views among Catholics....

....this trend reflects the collapse over the past forty years of the knee-jerk association of Catholics with the Democratic Party. But it may also indicate that increasing numbers of Catholic bishops are tired of being presumed to adhere to any number of positions on prudential policy issues simply because one or more departments of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops happen to advocate a particular viewpoint.

The catalyst, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, supports government-guaranteed health care. However, its support hinges on an amendment barring government funding of abortions. The bishops' stance infuriated Rep. Patrick Kennedy (D., R.I.).
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4 posted on 12/04/2009 11:01:35 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him" - Job 13:15)
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To: Alex Murphy

Must be where my priests and bishop get their homily propaganda.


5 posted on 12/04/2009 11:10:56 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun
affordable health care is a human right.

How can the property and labor of another be a "right"? That doesn't make any sense at all.

6 posted on 12/04/2009 11:16:45 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (:: The government will do for health care what it did for real estate. ::)
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To: GonzoII
Good article.

I recommend you read my discussion with Archbishop Chaput

Chaput clearly doesn't agree with my "quasi-libertarian" views of Catholic obligations to love and serve. I've never understood how liberals like Chaput (on health care, he is most certainly a liberal, liberal on everything but abortion) can advocate for forcing your neighbors at gunpoint to pay higher taxes to support "positive rights" like universal health care. Christ and the disciples were martyred by Caesar and certainly did not lobby Caesar to render all kinds of positive rights on the people. Charity and love must be freely given, not forcibly confiscated at gunpoint via taxation.

But I strongly agree with this part of the article and this makes me proud to be a Catholic:

It might, however, be that these groups have a deeper concern: their realization that the days when American Catholic bishops could be relied upon to accept or advocate extension of the state’s participation in more-or-less any area of social and economic life are long gone.

In part, this trend reflects the collapse over the past forty years of the knee-jerk association of Catholics with the Democratic Party.

Logos, dialogue, faith and REASON. A healthy debate is good for all of us.

7 posted on 12/04/2009 11:34:59 AM PST by ikeonic
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To: ikeonic
"Indeed, if anything, the Church should be asking for voluntary collections to provide the very services (such as health care) we advocate the government provide instead! That would be far more in keeping with the imitation of Christ that all Catholics struggle to achieve."

That is an excellent idea. In our heart of hearts, for sure in mine, we would like to see everyone have affordable health care. I don't believe the Gov. should be involved in enforcing it. We as Christians every where should solve it ourselves as charitable institutions inspired by the love of Christ have historically done.

Another article that may be of interest:

Health Reform Threatens Voluntary Charitable Action

8 posted on 12/04/2009 12:26:10 PM PST by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: GonzoII
That is an excellent idea. In our heart of hearts, for sure in mine, we would like to see everyone have affordable health care. I don't believe the Gov. should be involved in enforcing it. We as Christians every where should solve it ourselves as charitable institutions inspired by the love of Christ have historically done.

You, sir, are an it-getter. Couldn't agree more.

Naturally, liberals would be quick to point out that it is the failure of Christians to be charitable enough that makes their socialist ways necessary. Sadly, too many Catholics agree. But not this Catholic.

In my mind, socialism and Christianity are completely incompatible because socialism means ceding all responsibility for charitable good works to the government. It is a declaration of failure for Christians to become advocates for socialism. Which is precisely why Christ lobbied directly to the people and not to Caesar.

And Christ always used love to make his arguments (yes, tough love when necessary as when he chased the moneychangers from the temple) but (unlike Muhammad -- PBOH) Jesus never ever used violence or force of arms as the government (or caliphate) uses if you fail to obey their laws, tax laws or otherwise. The Gospel is testimony to Christ's appeal to reason and love. Socialism is neither reasonable or loving. It is charity at gunpoint.

9 posted on 12/04/2009 3:28:31 PM PST by ikeonic
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To: massgopguy
Fortunately, The U. S. Bishops speaking out AGAINST this healthcare/obamacare!

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10 posted on 12/05/2009 9:45:37 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: GonzoII
The USSCB should, for the most part, shut up. But there are a few principles: subsidiarity, for one.
11 posted on 12/05/2009 9:04:52 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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