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Are these the nails used to crucify Jesus?
Haaretz.com ^ | 4-12-11 | Nir Hasson

Posted on 04/12/2011 2:48:23 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

Journalist Simcha Jacobovici believes that the nails discovered in a Jerusalem cave are revolutionary in their implications regarding the birth of Christianity.

The Peace Forest is a small grove of pines sandwiched between the Abu Tor neighborhood and main promenade in Jerusalem. Anyone walking along the road that snakes through the grove can see a green pipe rising from the ground and reaching a height of several meters.

This pipe, if journalist Simcha Jacobovici is to be believed, this is the physical tip of an archaeological detective story in the style of the Da Vinci Code.

And this pipe is the sole evidence of the burial cave discovered by chance while the road was being laid in 1990. Digging at the site uncovered two ossuaries (stone vessels in which the bones of the dead were placed, according to custom at the end of the period of the Second Temple). On one of the ossuaries is inscribed the name Caiaphas (in Hebrew Kayafa) and on the second Joseph son of Caiaphas.

The name Caiaphas is rare for the Second Temple era and in fact is totally unknown among archaeological finds. This allowed the digging detectives to say with confidence that the site is the burial cave of the family of Caiaphas, the Jerusalem high priest in Jesus' time and one of the primary antagonists in Christian scripture.

It was this Caiaphas who gave Jesus up to the Romans. He, along with Judas Iscariot, was the symbol of Jewish treachery, a denier of the truth and the de facto basis for Christian anti-Semitism.

(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Eastern Religions; Judaism; Orthodox Christian
KEYWORDS: archaeology; caiaphas; cave; crucifixtion; fauxiantrolls; godsgravesglyphs; israel; israelhershkovitz; jerusalem; jesus; joseph; judasiscariot; kayafa; letshavejerusalem; nails; peaceforest; relics; romanempire; secondtemple; simchajacobovici
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To: Cronos
"We forget that it was actually ALL of our sins that Christ took on the Cross. It was actually ALL of us standing there saying "Crucify him"

Christ himself said those who turned him over to Pilate had the greater sin. Thus, not all are equally quilty.

41 posted on 04/13/2011 5:22:45 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: circlecity

ok, so who were those who turned him over to Pilate?


42 posted on 04/13/2011 5:24:10 AM PDT by Cronos (Christian, redneck, rube and proud of it!)
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To: Cronos
"ok, so who were those who turned him over to Pilate?"

Read the Gospels and find out.

43 posted on 04/13/2011 5:25:52 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: circlecity; chs68
I know who and I already stated that We forget that it was actually ALL of our sins that Christ took on the Cross. It was actually ALL of us standing there saying "Crucify him"

. Are you stating that this was just the Jews who are guilty of Christ's death?

44 posted on 04/13/2011 5:34:03 AM PDT by Cronos (Christian, redneck, rube and proud of it!)
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To: Cronos
'Are you stating that this was just the Jews who are guilty of Christ's death?"

Only the ones immediately involved who participated, approved or yelled for Barabbas.

45 posted on 04/13/2011 5:36:49 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: circlecity

ok, thank you for that clarification.


46 posted on 04/13/2011 5:39:49 AM PDT by Cronos (Christian, redneck, rube and proud of it!)
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To: aft_lizard
Did you miss me saying “I do not care about that aspect”

My implied question was would a bloody (wet) nail last from the Roman times. I doubt it would.

Now if you want to postulate that the nails were dried and sealed in an airtight, oxygen low environment then yes I am sure they would survive.

There is of course, no evidence to believe that the nails used on Christ were stored in such a way. And Nails surviving has nothing to do with your initial statement that the element survives.

So if you want to have a credible hypothesis can you explain how bloody nails can survive, especially when the pictures show that those particular nails were not dry and stored in a hermetically sealed manner.

47 posted on 04/13/2011 10:14:35 AM PDT by LeGrande (Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial.)
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To: Behemothpanzer

Wow, interesting!

Thank you for your post,
Regards
Levante


48 posted on 04/13/2011 11:09:54 AM PDT by Levante
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To: BlackVeil

Interesting info!

Thanx for your post!


49 posted on 04/13/2011 11:11:12 AM PDT by Levante
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To: LeGrande

Implied is not the same as stated, I don’t deal with implied. If you want to go down a path were we are assuming that blood at one time covered those nails then sure. Low oxygen or high oxygen doesn’t matter, the blood would presumably dry within hours after being excised from the body, if not with in an hour. Forming a thin film protecting said nails from an oxygen rich environment. I personally do not believe in these being some sort of mystical nails from Christ(I am an agnostic anyways), but either way you seemed damned angry and impertinant, almost like you have some sort of hate for Christianity and religion in general and you wish to not only get in said arguments over it you wish to try and take their sacred cows and destroy them. Frankly you are coming off as a bit of a pathetic old man.


50 posted on 04/14/2011 3:12:43 AM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: aft_lizard
Low oxygen or high oxygen doesn’t matter, the blood would presumably dry within hours after being excised from the body, if not with in an hour. Forming a thin film protecting said nails from an oxygen rich environment.

Obviously you don't know how rust works. If that was the case then painting over rust would stop it in its tracks. Your "thin film" would only make thing worse.

you seemed damned angry and impertinant, almost like you have some sort of hate for Christianity and religion in general and you wish to not only get in said arguments over it you wish to try and take their sacred cows and destroy them.

You are partially correct, but the sad part is that you fail to see the humor. The idea that anyone could believe that these are the nails that they crucified a Christ with is asinine. The fact that the Christian community isn't bent over in laughter with tears streaming down their faces is very telling.

It kind of reminds me of Muslims rioting and killing people because of a cartoon. We are getting the wrong reactions.

51 posted on 04/14/2011 7:21:08 AM PDT by LeGrande (Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial.)
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To: irishtenor
Beautiful response.

My name, my sins, as well.

52 posted on 04/17/2011 6:30:09 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: irishtenor
Beautiful response.

My name, my sins, as well.

53 posted on 04/17/2011 6:31:21 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: wendy1946
Just an update, with a link to a possible reason for wendy1946's Zotting.

54 posted on 10/18/2015 9:07:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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