Posted on 08/04/2013 6:09:58 AM PDT by marshmallow
Someone is trying to tell us something...
the language in this is a little mixed up. Is there a second account somewhere?
[CATHOLIC CAUCUS]'Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity': The Miracle and Gift of the Most Holy Eucharist
Looking After a Eucharistic Miracle (Franciscan Recounts His Special Mission in Siena)
Eucharistic Miracle: 2009?
Possible Eucharistic Miracle in Poland
The Eucharistic Miracles(Catholic Caucus)
Vatican display exhibits eucharistic miracles
Eucharistic Miracle - Bolsena-Orvieto, Italy
Physician Tells of Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano -Verifies Authenticity of the Phenomenon
BLOOD TYPE FOUND IN ICONS IS SAME AS IN SHROUD OF TURIN AND 'LANCIANO MIRACLE'
Eucharistic Miracle: Lanciano,Italy-8th Century A.D.
Interesting.
Matthew 24: 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Well hello narses! Nice to see you again. That in response to a scripture verse ey! High class!
Then was offered to him one possessed with a devil, blind and dumb: and he healed him, so that he spoke and saw. And all the multitudes were amazed, and said: Is not this the son of David? But the Pharisees hearing it, said: This man casteth not out the devils but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.
Matthew 12: 22-24
Matthew 24: 3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
You see, Christ was answering a question about the signs of the end of the world.
Mathew 12 was what Christ was doing while He was alive. In chapter 24 He was warning us what to look for and that there would be those who would try to mimic what He did but they would be false.
But then you would have known all that if you truly studied scripture wouldnt you.
Your point, if I understand it correctly, is that phenomena such as the alleged Eucharistic miracle reported here, are deceptions of the devil.
My point is that the Pharisees made precisely the same argument regarding the miracles of Jesus Himself.
And Jesus explained them both. His were real the ones towards the end of the world will be fake.
The Pharisees may be gone but Phariseeism lives on.
Be careful when you blithely dismiss reports of the miraculous............
I see a lot of snotty down nose looking on both sides of this rancor... where IS Christ in this? Yoo hoo Jesus???
Now of course don’t knock the “evangelical model.” That’s what I clearly stand for. Some Roman practices deflect glory from God — e.g. Mary can’t glorify God for you, when God is wanting you to do it yourself. But the evangelical model doesn’t include telling Roman Catholics that they’re dirty nothings, at least until you’re willing to cede that you’re a dirty nothing too and need Jesus to reach out to anyone else in invitation to salvation.
When we give or receive Christmas gifts; or hang green wreaths in our homes and churches, how many of us know that we are probably observing pagan customs...the god, Woden, in Norse Mythology, descends upon the earth yearly between December 25th and January 6th to bless mankind...But pagan though they be, they are beautiful customs. They help inspire us with the spirit of 'good will to men', even as the sublime service of our Church reminds us of the peace on earth which the babe of Bethlehem came to bestow (Externals of the Catholic Church, 140).
As well with other pagan practices by the Catholics.
We need not shrink from admitting that candles, like incense and lustral water, were commonly employed in pagan worship and the rites paid to the dead. But the Church from a very early period took them into her service, just as she adopted many other things indifferent in themselves, which seemed proper to enhance the splendor of religious ceremonial. We must not forget that most of these adjuncts to worship, like music, lights, perfumes, ablutions, floral decorations, canopies, fans, screens, bells, vestments etc. were not identified with any idolatrous cult in particular; but they were common to almost all cults (Catholic Encyclopedia, III, 246.)
Of course God says something different.
Deuteronomy 12:30 Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise. 31 Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God
Catholics cant deny that the RCC has incorporated pagan practices into its practices. The RCC itself admits that it does. The RCC refuses to hear the words of the Lord.
As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the LORD, we will not hearken unto thee. But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil. (Jer.44:16-17)
I simply posted a verse from scripture of Jesus words. I didnt make any statement in regards to the words of Jesus. It seems Jesus words elicited a rather interesting reaction from you.
Cynical, I see some legitimate concerns and some bad theology together here.
Legitimate in that it’s possible that an adopted custom too casually approached can pull a Christian into old, sinful practices. Bad theology in that yes, Jesus does have the authority to literally snatch stuff from Satan and make it holy (and by the way it is one of the greatest spiritual thrills to witness this). We are not talking about Old Testament practices where the absolute conquering Christ had not yet walked the earth.
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