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Tape of Kennedy's Killing Is Getting Digital Analysis
New York Times ^ | August 3, 2004 | MICHAEL JANOFSKY

Posted on 08/04/2004 5:09:23 AM PDT by BluegrassScholar

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To: BluegrassScholar

The Dictaphone evidence was thoroughly discussed (and debunked) in Gerald Posner's "Case Closed."


41 posted on 08/04/2004 7:27:04 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: stockpirate

If the bullet had actually behaved in the manner you described, I would agree. But it didn't. See Gerald Posner's "Case Closed" (still in print, with a new preface), the best book on the JFK assassination.


42 posted on 08/04/2004 7:29:44 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: BluegrassScholar

This is the only "conspiracy theory" I've ever given any weight to. I have always felt the "magic bullet" was unbelievable simply because there is no damage to the tip, and because of the House Assasination Committee's report stating the high percentage that four shots, not three, were in fact fired that day.

I'll be watching for this when it comes out. If you hear anything else on the subject, please ping me if its no trouble.

Thanks


43 posted on 08/04/2004 7:31:43 AM PDT by Badeye ("You haven't posted anything to even remotely cause me to reconsider this position.")
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To: stockpirate

""Six Seconds in Dallas"; "Best Evidence" "

Lifton's book is the best of the lot, still holds up after twenty years.

I can't accept the "magic bullet" because you could reload it today and fire it. No way it caused seven seperate wounds in my opinion, and remain undeformed on the tip.


44 posted on 08/04/2004 7:34:12 AM PDT by Badeye ("You haven't posted anything to even remotely cause me to reconsider this position.")
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To: Badeye

The "pristine bullet" was not pristine, it was somewhat deformed. But it's condition was consistent with the condition of test bullets fired into cadavers in efforts to replicate the assassination.


45 posted on 08/04/2004 7:34:56 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: BluegrassScholar

Oh good God! Would everyone just let the kooks rest in peace?


46 posted on 08/04/2004 7:38:26 AM PDT by Mister Blond
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To: Badeye

Sorry, you lose. The tip was damaged. And the bullet did exactly what it was designed to do. Go through multitudes of men massed in an attack based on early 20th Century technology.


47 posted on 08/04/2004 7:38:45 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.ss)
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To: Interesting Times

Excellent link. The diagram from "High Treason" totally misrepesents the angle of the bullet and the relative positions of Kennedy and Connelly. If the bullet had hit Kennedy from that angle, it would have to have been fired by someone standing in full view, or suspended in mid-air, about 30 feet south of the Texas School Book Depository.


48 posted on 08/04/2004 7:44:25 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: BluegrassScholar
I'm not at all sure about the murder of the President, but if the dims have anything to say about it, it'll wind up being Bush's fault!
49 posted on 08/04/2004 7:44:36 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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To: BluegrassScholar

If they ever come clean about who called off the air strikes which were essential to the 'Bay of Pigs' invasion, maybe they could add a few other people to the list.


50 posted on 08/04/2004 7:48:34 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (This tagline has been temporarily disconnected or is out of service....)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Kennedy assassination links for all to consider (in no particular order):

Kennedy Assassination Home Page
Lee Harvey Oswald's Paper Bag
Guinn’s neutron-activation Analysis
Warren Report: Table of Contents
One Hundred Errors of Fact and Judgment in Oliver Stone's JFK
The Academic JFK Assassination Web Site
HSCA (House Select Committee on Assassinations) Final Assassinations Report
A Critique of The Warren Report
Attempted assassination of General Walker
Oswald interviews, Acoustic studies and other information relating to the assassination of JFK
Queen of Diamonds
Zapruder 313
Head Wound
Photos and Illustrations of the JFK Assassination
Zapruder Head Shot
A Conspiracy Too Big? Intellectual Dishonesty in the JFK Assassination
The Single Bullet Strikes John Connally
Changed Motorcade Route in Dallas?
Zapruder frames 312-314 animated
Frame by Frame breakdown of the Zapruder Film
The Zapruder Film is Authentic
New Orleans, and the Garrison Investigation
Close up of crack in limo windshield
The Bullet Fragments In Governor Connally: Were There Too Many To Have Come From CE 399?
Body Snatchers at Love Field?
The Case for a Bunched Jacket
The Case of the Bunched Jacket (Not the same as the link above)
X-ray Wound Comparison
Zapruder Film in its entirety
Dallas Motorcycle Police Eyewitness Accounts

Free Republic threads on the Kennedy Assassination:


Spy claims Israel assassinated JFK
Ex-Presidents, Johnson Widow Call for JFK Film Probe
Running down a footnote to assassination
The man who solved the Kennedy assassination
Case Closed: a letter to Gerald Posner (re: Kennedy assassination)
Warren (Commission) Was Right - The JFK case should be closed
Kennedy assassination solved!
Peter Jennings "JFK" Report: Oswald acted alone, go back to sleep...
Some Relevant Facts About the JFK Assassination
Who Killed JFK?
New Evidence in Kennedy Killing (Dallas not Mass)
Nellie Connally Disputes Warren Commission
JFK's fatal head wound: The truth for those who want to know (very graphic)
The Mystery of Marina Oswald
LBJ was behind JFK's assassination, upcoming book contends (I like this one best)
Thirty-nine years after JFK's assassination...
***New study of JFK assassination backs theory of "grassy knoll" Thread 2***
New study of JFK assassination backs....... Thread 3
New study of JFK assassination backs....... Thread 4
New study of JFK assassination ---- Thread 5
New study of JFK assassination ---- Thread 6
Echo correlation analysis and acoustic evidence in the Kennedy assassination

Let me know of any others not on the list.

51 posted on 08/04/2004 7:49:16 AM PDT by Tares
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To: Shooter 2.5

"Sorry, you lose. The tip was damaged. And the bullet did exactly what it was designed to do. Go through multitudes of men massed in an attack based on early 20th Century technology."

Sorry, we disagree. Look at the picture of this bullet from the Warren Commission Report. The base is slightly deformed, but the tip is pristine.

Either way, its going to be looked at again.


52 posted on 08/04/2004 7:51:14 AM PDT by Badeye ("You haven't posted anything to even remotely cause me to reconsider this position.")
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To: Steve_Seattle
Gerald Posner's "Case Closed."

Uh..., read Posner's book; didn't think much of it.

The thing that's always struck me about the Kennedy assassination is how bass-ackwards the Warren Commission was in its investigation. In any murder, the authorities look at the facts and allow the facts to lead to the truth. But the Warren Commission seemed to start with a premise (Oswald- single lone assassin) and tailored the facts to fit their preconceived notion.

53 posted on 08/04/2004 7:51:24 AM PDT by THX 1138
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To: Steve_Seattle

I'm really starting to hate Oliver Stone. Notice there are no deviations. No strange angles. Notice the conspiracy theorists havn't link to anything yet.

54 posted on 08/04/2004 7:53:43 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.ss)
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To: Drango

Holy Crap. I thought the same thing and I thought it was because I didn't have coffee yet!


55 posted on 08/04/2004 7:54:10 AM PDT by longfellow
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To: Badeye

Look again.


56 posted on 08/04/2004 7:55:14 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.ss)
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To: Badeye

What's that damage on the tip? Do you see it? Do you also understand by the time the bullet hit bone it was keyholing and traveling sideways causing the damage to the rear?

57 posted on 08/04/2004 7:59:59 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.ss)
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To: Badeye
Sorry, we disagree. Look at the picture of this bullet from the Warren Commission Report. The base is slightly deformed, but the tip is pristine.

Slightly?


58 posted on 08/04/2004 8:04:06 AM PDT by Tares
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To: BluegrassScholar

Good stuff. Thanks for the post.


59 posted on 08/04/2004 8:07:04 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: The Wizard

Oswald acted alone.

He could make the shots and did make the shots. As a matter of fact, the last shot, the death shot, was the easiest one of all due to the window Oswald was shooting out of...The first two shots he had to contort his body in order to get the shots off...The last one was further away but easier because it had better and much easier line of site.

I like ghost and ufo stuff, but I don't really believe any of it. This JFK conspiracy crap should be looked at in the exact same light.

"8 shots"??? Please...

8 people couldn't keep their mouths shut about this if they were dead.


60 posted on 08/04/2004 8:22:28 AM PDT by Mister Blond
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