hand 'em out as needed.
Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858
It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?
A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.
Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.
We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.
In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.
The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.
The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.
We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.
The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.
Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.
I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.
This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.
I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.
Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.
I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?
Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?
If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.
Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.
Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?
Do it for Pukin.
I knew that you could.
OK. Quit accusing me of saying you did. You were talking about people who have been banned and suspended. Many have been banned because they demanded Bush be impeached and they are advocating a Republican loss in 2006.
"Amnesty will ensure a Dem takover of this nation. It is foolhardy to the extreme."
No. It won't. You grossly overestimate the impact of single issue voters deciding not to vote in 2006. Congressional elections are local events.
"A generation ago your views to allow 1-200 million immigrants to swarm in here in a generation would have been laughed at as preposterous. "
What are you talking about. I'm still laughing at the preposterous suggestion that 200 million immigrants will even exist to swarm in here in a generation. And if you can back up your "racist" rhetoric with anything Ed Gillespie has actually said, I will give you just a hair more credibility than the almost zero credibility I currently grant you.
The news coming out tonight is that the GOP House leadership meeting with Rove didn't go well. My Rep and others are breaking with Bush; we'll know soon enough if this becomes the new playbook.
Point taken.
You are not only blind to the fact that I am laughing my socks off AT you, but that Toby probably is as well; though I don't assume to speak for him.
You horned in, you attacked me for no reason, Toby and I have been having a high old time of it, yet YOU are still flaming away. How childish and boring and useless!
I have yet to threaten anyone, dear, but since you've slapped on the kneepads and are begging for it, I just might comply with your wishes. ;^)
If they turn on Bush then it is them that will be out of their phony baloney jobs.
The House is our last best hope. I have been urging everyone to vote R in 06. We must keep the House.
The Constitution has its principles, the BOR and the Constitution also has its pragmatism, the rest of the document.
Read the procedures of the Constitution. It describes a process of politics and pragmatism.
You're wrong if you believe pragmatism is unprincipled.
Being hard-nosed to the point of cutting it off is not principled, it's self defeating.
OUTSTANDING rant Pukin Dog! Thanks.
Happy Anniversary and thanks to you and Southack on your profile page.
I was curious as to how you spoke to them. I guess you know them personally.
I can agree with the above to a certain point. I have no idea why you seem to want to pick a fight with me, but I will tell you that pragmatism leads to apeasement without a stong commentment to princibles. I think you would agree.
hand 'em out as needed.
Okay. Threaten away.
Show me how powerful you are.
" guess you know them personally."
Is tha possibility beyond your realm of comprehension?
I have no problem with House conservatives sticking to their guns on the border issue, and I'm not happy with the Senate either.
I do however still support President Bush, even if I don't always agree.
I'll stick with the only conservative party with a chance of winning, and try to improve on that from within.
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Turning on Bush is the only way they can (a) win primaries; and (b) win in November.
My guy is a shoe-in; Gilchrist almost took Cox's vacated seat in the district right south of here against a mainline GOP candidate.
Of course - we still want him to carry on the WoT and kick some muzzie ass. But as far as illegal immigration, forget it.
Several of us know one another in person. I personally know a poster or two who have been banned, but I am certain they know the reason(s).
ROFL. Touche.
What you said BUMP!
I concur.
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