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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: CharlesWayneCT
I know you have reading comprehension problems, but there's a freeper who pinged you that they would rather have Hillary as president. Post #1247. They said they'd rather have Hillary as president, although they wouldn't vote for her.
1,441 posted on 04/22/2007 12:41:40 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach
Bye Bye Peach... It hasn’t been that good to know ya.
1,442 posted on 04/22/2007 12:41:41 AM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Here's one way back in Feb:

If nominated, Giuliani must be defeated, if only to remind the Republican Party that the sanctity of life remains an important issue for at least part of its base. If he's nominated by the Republicans, I'll vote for the democrat.
63 posted on 02/06/2007 6:31:54 PM CST by Godwin1 *

1,443 posted on 04/22/2007 12:42:09 AM PDT by Rex Anderson
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To: Howlin
Right; and if I cared to, I could name more than a few times the “real true” conservatives have screwed the GOP.

Please do, I really can't think of any. I will gladly acknowledge them if you point them out. (And as I said, 4 or 5 FReepers voting for the consitution party doesn't count).

1,444 posted on 04/22/2007 12:43:29 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: babygene

Let me know when you get appointed manager of the web site and given the ability to make those decisions. And since “fricken” is now accepted language on this site, mind your own fricken business.


1,445 posted on 04/22/2007 12:43:37 AM PDT by Peach
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To: infidel29

I believe that if Rudy is our candidate, some strong conservatives will stay home, while some left-leaning independents will come to vote for Rudy.

So rudy might win, but those independents will vote democrat down-ticket, and our best conservative congressmen will be defeated. Rudy will have coattails for people who think like him, pro-abortion, gun control, gay unions, global warming, etc. That’s primarily democrats.

If we ran John Edwards, we’d beat Hillary.


1,446 posted on 04/22/2007 12:44:32 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Rex Anderson

Thanks for finding that.

One guy actually told me if Rudy is the nominee, he’ll write a check to Hillary and post the endorsed check on FR.

Yup. Sounds exactly like a Republican to me. /s


1,447 posted on 04/22/2007 12:44:39 AM PDT by Peach
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To: flashbunny
I hope you're out looking for a post that backs this up:

Like the time you insinuated that I was on drugs and gay because I dared disagree with the mier’s pick.

I'm gonna need a link from you to back that up.

And I'll be waiting for it tomorrow if you don't get it up tonight.

1,448 posted on 04/22/2007 12:44:40 AM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: M. Thatcher

Ok, I’ll play. Please explain in your own words why we conservatives should overlook “abortion is a constitutional right,” “taxpayers should fund abortions for poor women,” “I understand the second amendment, but I’m coming for the guns anyway,” “we should respect the rights of gays,” “I believe in homosexual unions (marriage),” etc, etc, etc. Oh yeah, and please explain that sanctuary city deal for illegal aliens that Mayor Giuliani set up in NYC.

Why would we want such a liberal person to be our president?


1,449 posted on 04/22/2007 12:44:48 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Peach

gotta link?


1,450 posted on 04/22/2007 12:45:28 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Peach

I have more.


1,451 posted on 04/22/2007 12:45:29 AM PDT by Rex Anderson
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To: babygene
Bye Bye Peach... It hasn’t been that good to know ya.

I fully expect to get up later today and discover that Peach has indeed been nuked.

I think you're psychic babygene.
1,452 posted on 04/22/2007 12:45:36 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: CharlesWayneCT
If we ran John Edwards, we’d beat Hillary.

Yeah, but I don't think I could take the swooning from the desperate housewives.

1,453 posted on 04/22/2007 12:46:37 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. )
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To: Jim Robinson

I didn’t save that particular post, but as you can see upthread, there are already two freepers who are just fine with Hillary being president instead of Rudy.

If you think I should start saving posts from crazy freepers, I’m going to start wasting a lot of bandwidth saving them to my bookmarks. I certainly don’t mind if you don’t.


1,454 posted on 04/22/2007 12:46:53 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach
"How is it you are able to maintain a policy of no personal attacks when you talk like that?"

And how is it that YOU can repeat your lies, over and over and over, and still look at yourself in the mirror?

People have refuted your socialist loving bull, and yet you still repeat them.

The very least, the VERY least, you can do is acknowledge the truth when it hits you in the face, and drop the lies.

:O)

P
Run, FRED, run!

1,455 posted on 04/22/2007 12:46:55 AM PDT by papasmurf (Name me one nation that taxed itself into prosperity. Run, FRED, run!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; Peach

To: Ultra Sonic 007
I’d rather elect Hillary than vote for Giuliani.
35 posted on 02/11/2007 8:29:19 AM CST by Mr Ramsbotham


1,456 posted on 04/22/2007 12:47:19 AM PDT by Rex Anderson
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To: Rex Anderson

I was going to start saving some of those posts, but decided there were too many freepers on the Rudy threads, especially early on, that I didn’t bother. After the jeering they took for their positions, they moderated somewhat.


1,457 posted on 04/22/2007 12:47:54 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Jim Robinson

What are you, the Jack Chick of the new media? I reject the premise that your five semi-quotes in any way define Giuliani.


1,458 posted on 04/22/2007 12:48:11 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: Peach

Moderating abortion? Give me a break. The man is and always will be an abortionist! You are one sick puppy if you go along with that “moderating” crap.


1,459 posted on 04/22/2007 12:48:25 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: papasmurf

Mind your own freakin business.


1,460 posted on 04/22/2007 12:48:26 AM PDT by Peach
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