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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: KATIE-O

You sound like a Communist to me....buh-bye!


3,161 posted on 04/22/2007 4:48:09 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy.......)
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To: KATIE-O
You are brainwashed haters who have no tolerance for anyone outside your little fascist circle.

Cue the book-burning!

3,162 posted on 04/22/2007 4:48:10 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Ben Franklin, we tried but we couldn't keep it.)
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To: EnquiringMind

So nice I posted it twice.


3,163 posted on 04/22/2007 4:48:14 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: KATIE-O
You are a disgusting, impotent Lemming Twit!!

And you're soon to be a former FReeper, I would guess.

3,164 posted on 04/22/2007 4:48:24 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Laws that infringe on unalienable rights are not laws at all...they are in fact lawless edicts.)
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To: EnquiringMind

And I stand by it too.


3,165 posted on 04/22/2007 4:48:31 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: processing please hold

Hope that Duncan Hunter Presidency works out for ya! lol


3,166 posted on 04/22/2007 4:48:35 PM PDT by KATIE-O (Rudy Giuliani - '08 (But Only If We Want To Win!))
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To: Petronski
I wish them luck with that. Secret discussions are no way to promote a candidate.

What do you expect them to do? To portray Rudy as a conservative you need to keep a lot of stuff secret.

3,167 posted on 04/22/2007 4:49:07 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: KATIE-O
You are brainwashed haters who have no tolerance for anyone outside your little fascist circle

And you are complaining about name calling. Get a grip.
3,168 posted on 04/22/2007 4:49:14 PM PDT by gpapa
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To: EnquiringMind
So nice I posted it twice.

When you're at a shortage for words, I can understand that.
3,169 posted on 04/22/2007 4:49:17 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: stephenjohnbanker
I could be mistaken so don’t hold me to it but, I think he was a Canadian.
3,170 posted on 04/22/2007 4:49:40 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: EternalVigilance; Jim Robinson
Rooty-tooties

LOL!

This thread will never die! Actually, this thread is sure separating the wheat from the chaff, so far as who is really a Conservative and who isn't.

Nam Vet

3,171 posted on 04/22/2007 4:50:09 PM PDT by Nam Vet ( The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.)
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To: KATIE-O
Hope that Duncan Hunter Presidency works out for ya! lol

Rudy will get a job as lead security officer for a Planned Parenthood clinic somewhere.

3,172 posted on 04/22/2007 4:50:13 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Ben Franklin, we tried but we couldn't keep it.)
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To: Nam Vet

Yeah. Long overdue.


3,173 posted on 04/22/2007 4:50:53 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Laws that infringe on unalienable rights are not laws at all...they are in fact lawless edicts.)
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To: KATIE-O; Politicalmom

Katie, you’ve been running around for months with the unsubstantiated claim that only a LIBERAL can beat an unnominated ‘Rat.


3,174 posted on 04/22/2007 4:50:57 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Jim Robinson

Yikes. That’ll leave a mark.


3,175 posted on 04/22/2007 4:51:47 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: papasmurf; OldFriend

The “moderate” or “real world” Republicans point at abortion and gay marriage as “obsessions” of social conservatives, in order to discredit conservatism per se.

Social conservatism is about MORALS, honor, personal responsibility, and the laws that God handed down to Moses. Coincidentally, our Nation was founded so that we are a “nation of laws.” This is the framework in which freedom flourishes.

Social conservatism, the foundation of this nation, is antithetical to libertines and liberals, neither of which has anything to do with Liberty. So, the “real world Republicans” (Peach’s term) are in actuality LIB-ER-ALLS.

It is liberal vs. conservative in this country: take your pick. It is my belief that a majority of Americans prefer to be conservative all the way, but the wishy-washy politicians don’t clearly represent that view. Bring forward a truly conservative leader and you will see a groundswell of response and support all the way to the White House.

Promote a compromise like Giuliani and you will see sad defeat for this Nation and a frustrated Silent Majority.


3,176 posted on 04/22/2007 4:51:58 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world. Have mercy on us, and grant us Your peace.)
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To: KATIE-O

If the best man wins-it will.


3,177 posted on 04/22/2007 4:51:59 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Politicalmom

Okay, I work with some folks at the office who vote Republican and are to the left of Rudy.

Do you really want their names?


3,178 posted on 04/22/2007 4:52:44 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Peach
Murry Mom’s account is still open and Mia T was banned?

OMG I think I'm going to be sick. I hope it's a short suspension as I adore Mia and applaud her tireless efforts to insure Hillary goes no further than Jr. Senator from NY.

3,179 posted on 04/22/2007 4:52:47 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: rockrr
The Republican party is the original “big tent” party.

We need to educate at least half of the population to understand why liberal ideas are wrong, and don't work. We need to educate at least half of the population to understand that personal responsibility, strong national defense, and strong family moral values are the correct way for people to live. It is hard to change minds by screaming, it takes reasoned discussion.

We are not gaining any experience in such discussion on this thread unfortunately.

If we fail in this task to educate our fellow Americans, then the liberals take over and they have the power to instill enough power in the government to make it difficult for us to be able to organize against them in the future because they use their power to buy votes.

3,180 posted on 04/22/2007 4:53:31 PM PDT by RobFromGa (This tagline intentionally left blank.)
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